SVTFOE Mafia- DP1

Author: Vader

Posts

Total: 148
PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
-->
@oromagi
lol
WaterPhoenix
WaterPhoenix's avatar
Debates: 12
Posts: 2,094
3
3
10
WaterPhoenix's avatar
WaterPhoenix
3
3
10
-->
@oromagi
What if he's like cop or doctor or something
PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
-->
@WaterPhoenix
If you have a cop or doctor or something, and they're inactive, then it's basically pointless to keep them.
oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
TOWN
7. oromagi
5. PressF
3. Speed
9. warren42
4. iLikePie5
8. Mharman
6. WaterPhoenix
1.NotClub            
2. Wylted
(not online 5 days)
SCUM
 
  • Wylted absent for four days- only one who has
Lettuce get together and
Squash the inactive
warren42
warren42's avatar
Debates: 2
Posts: 1,888
3
3
6
warren42's avatar
warren42
3
3
6
My vote will be staying where it is. Oro is attempting to get an easy lynch on arguably the best player in the game.
WaterPhoenix
WaterPhoenix's avatar
Debates: 12
Posts: 2,094
3
3
10
WaterPhoenix's avatar
WaterPhoenix
3
3
10
Hmmm, I'll unvote first then see if wylted get's on if he doesn't and the game is about to be over I will vote him.

UNVOTE
oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
-->
@warren42
My vote will be staying where it is. Oro is attempting to get an easy lynch on arguably the best player in the game.
Of course, even the best player has the same odds of being scum as the worst player.  Warren has no reason to suppose Wylted is more likely town just because he is a good player- particularly since Wylted's current absence diverges from his usual high level of activity....UNLESS  Warren already knows Wylted is town because Warren is scum.

TOWN
7. oromagi
5. PressF
3. Speed
4. iLikePie5
8. Mharman
6. WaterPhoenix
1.NotClub            
2. Wylted
(not online 5 days)
9. warren42
SCUM

UNVOTE
VTL Warren42
warren42
warren42's avatar
Debates: 2
Posts: 1,888
3
3
6
warren42's avatar
warren42
3
3
6
-->
@oromagi
This is stupid. My point is that it's easier to eliminate Wylted when he's absent. You're looking to take out an inactive who also happens to be probably the best player. That is opportunistic as hell.
Vader
Vader's avatar
Debates: 30
Posts: 14,984
5
8
11
Vader's avatar
Vader
5
8
11
Vote Counter

(1/5)-Warren [oro]


NOTE: 24hrs left in DP

PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
-->
@warren42
Wylted can’t be the best player here if he isn’t even here, lol

Vader
Vader's avatar
Debates: 30
Posts: 14,984
5
8
11
Vader's avatar
Vader
5
8
11
-->
@PressF4Respect
In Mafia, not in this game he is referring to 

(if any confusion)
PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
-->
@Vader
There’s no confusion. I understand that Wylted is a very good player. I’m just saying that he is of no help to us if he isn’t here. 
warren42
warren42's avatar
Debates: 2
Posts: 1,888
3
3
6
warren42's avatar
warren42
3
3
6
-->
@Vader
I voted for Oro before Oro voted for me
Vader
Vader's avatar
Debates: 30
Posts: 14,984
5
8
11
Vader's avatar
Vader
5
8
11
Vote Counter

(1/5)-Warren [oro]
(1/5) Oro [Warren42]

PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
I've seen tectonic plates move faster than this game, lol
warren42
warren42's avatar
Debates: 2
Posts: 1,888
3
3
6
warren42's avatar
warren42
3
3
6
-->
@PressF4Respect
Then do something about it. Place a vote. Ask some questions. Post reads. Anything really.
PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
Let’s get a mass claim out there

What’s your guys’ characters?


PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
Don’t reveal yet if it is important
warren42
warren42's avatar
Debates: 2
Posts: 1,888
3
3
6
warren42's avatar
warren42
3
3
6
Ok, I like that you tried to do something but that's a terrible idea.

Even with your caveat of not revealing if you're important that means that we essentially out who has a power role and who doesn't. Scum can then pick through by process of elimination. Also, less importantly, not revealing if the role is "important" is super subjective. I might think that a bulletproof is important, someone else may not.
Speedrace
Speedrace's avatar
Debates: 63
Posts: 6,283
4
9
11
Speedrace's avatar
Speedrace
4
9
11
-->
@oromagi
Warren has no reason to suppose Wylted is more likely town just because he is a good player- particularly since Wylted's current absence diverges from his usual high level of activity.
That makes no sense, his absence started before this game and is therefore unrelated

PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
-->
@warren42
@oromagi
@Speedrace
I’d place Wylted at the bottom of PoE list. We shouldn’t focus so heavily on Wylted DP1. Oro, can you explain why you think Wylted is scum, other that him being offline?
WaterPhoenix
WaterPhoenix's avatar
Debates: 12
Posts: 2,094
3
3
10
WaterPhoenix's avatar
WaterPhoenix
3
3
10
Warren's activity seems a bit trippy this game he might be scum. Why would he be supporting Wylted so much unless they were scum partners in crime? Oro's lynch inactive people I think is a good idea because even if Wylted is 12x Deathproof vig, he's not gonna be much help if he's inactive. What I say is that we lynch Wylted this dp then pressure warren next dp.

VTL Wylted

Vader
Vader's avatar
Debates: 30
Posts: 14,984
5
8
11
Vader's avatar
Vader
5
8
11
Vote Counter

(1/5)-Warren [oro]
(1/5) Oro [Warren42]
(1/5)-Wylted [Water]

4hours remain

oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
-->
@PressF4Respect
no because Wylted hasn’t participated-  it’s just rational policy to lynch inactives in the absence of any other info/criteria - if town, inactives are less valuable. Some players default to less or no activity when scum- although I can say that Wylted does not exhibit this meta.  I think Warren would agree w/ this thinking  were he town Which makes me think he’s not.  I prefer lynch to no lynch for this DP & am open to other candidates


as for now my published reads remain the same   
PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
I guess if we have no other options, then we can lynch Wylted.
As for other scumreads, I’m still suspicious of Pie immediately VTLing Mhar after Warren’s statement. It could be scum trying to bandwagon.
WaterPhoenix
WaterPhoenix's avatar
Debates: 12
Posts: 2,094
3
3
10
WaterPhoenix's avatar
WaterPhoenix
3
3
10
-->
@oromagi
@PressF4Respect
Let's just lynch Wylted. We can pressure warren next dp.
PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
I really don’t think that being inactive automatically means scum. But since we have like, an hour left, let’s just lynch Wylted, take whether he is innocent or guilty, and go from there.
PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
I have a whole bunch of reads, but they depend on whether Wylted is scum or not.
WaterPhoenix
WaterPhoenix's avatar
Debates: 12
Posts: 2,094
3
3
10
WaterPhoenix's avatar
WaterPhoenix
3
3
10
-->
@PressF4Respect
We're not lynching Wylted cause he's scum we're lynching him cause he's inactive.
PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
-->
@WaterPhoenix
I know. I’m saying we can infer from whether or not Wylted is scum information about other people.