The main thing I'm concerned with, is that I'm not entirely certain how everyone plays here. I think I have a hang of forum mafia, the issue is I don't know the pattern of how each of you play. I've had that OSBM game as my first forum mafia, but that works fundamentally different from any regular mafia, so I can't assume people would use similar strategies there and now.
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@Speedrace
Believe it or not I'm usually active. I was burned out after playing in the mafia championships on MU and had been working 60-80 hour weeks all summer. Shouldn't have agreed to host (or play for that matter) until I got back to school but here I am!
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@PressF4Respect
Oook don't like that at all. This feels like the type of self-voting that comes from scum "you'll be mad when I flip town" kinda mindset
Btw Wylted is obvious town here
Town
Cogent
Wylted
Wylted
Null
Everyone else
Scum Lean
Supa, GP, Press
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@warren42
Btw Wylted is obvious town here
It seems too obvious though. That's my concern. Perhaps I'm just being paranoid like you said though lol. But I've played mafia/werewolf many atime where someone who we all agreed were obviously town, turned out not to be lol.
"Vote F! He is clearly Mafia!" - Mafia member
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@Cogent_Cognizer
Did you seriously forget about what you just said?
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@Cogent_Cognizer
I mean I'm open to changing my opinion as the game progresses, but as far as a Day 1 read goes I'm pretty confident in him
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@warren42
@Cogent_Cognizer
Also it would make perfect sense for scum to act as town leader, and kill everyone from within.
Vote Count
Club (1/7) - Pie
Press (5/7) - Wylted, Supa, Press, Grey, Cogent
Mhar (2/7) - Speed, Oro
Did you seriously forget about what you just said?
To what are you referring?
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@Cogent_Cognizer
There are also lynch-related roles, by the way. I mean, any number of roles would incentivise me to be lynched, same for PressF4respect.
You guys seem to want to lynch Pressf4respect right off the bat without even considering he could literally win from it if he's a Mime or Jester....but don't listen to me about VTNL'ing I guess.
You guys seem to want to lynch Pressf4respect right off the bat without even considering he could literally win from it if he's a Mime or Jester....but don't listen to me about VTNL'ing I guess.
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@PressF4Respect
Oh, forgot to specifically say that to press... look at comment 342
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@Cogent_Cognizer
I mean, that would explain his behavior with lying, etc, makes him an obvious lynch target. You guys seem to be stuck in this black-and-white thinking about Mafia. Dude, there's literally dozens of strategies, many unorthodox, you guys aren't even considering.
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@PressF4Respect
No, I haven't forgotten about that it's just being ignored for the most part by everyone else, so I don't really know what else I can do.
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@bsh1
If I do get VTL'd, do I get to make a final speech?
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@Cogent_Cognizer
Just go VTNL like you said.
Or you could face the wrath of a jester ;)
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@PressF4Respect
Right, but it's not his taking charge that makes me think he's town. It's a more abstract element to his play that feels more erratic than when he's mafia.
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@PressF4Respect
No. Once you are confirmed to be killed (either by lynch or NK) you must immediately halt all participation in the game.
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@bsh1
Okay. In that case, I might as well get it over with now.
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@PressF4Respect
Well, like in OSDM, when ignored, I tend to take all of us down. Everyone should go see that, by the way.
You know what though, yeah, I hate lynching on day one. I really don't think there's ever enough info.
Very well...
Unvote
VTNL
This is definitely my final vote. Went back to where I started, should have just stuck to it since I really don't like the idea of lynching on day 1. Odds are more likely we are going to have 2 townspeople killed, as we could all simply be wrong about PressF or whoever we think is obviously scum, I know it seems obvious he is guys, but I'm not willing to take this risk on DP1. It's too great to do this on DP1, I'd rather participate in VTL's starting the next day phase. I almost feel like we need a townsperson to die to get more info. Plus, certain roles we have could reveal more info too at night.
Very well...
Unvote
VTNL
This is definitely my final vote. Went back to where I started, should have just stuck to it since I really don't like the idea of lynching on day 1. Odds are more likely we are going to have 2 townspeople killed, as we could all simply be wrong about PressF or whoever we think is obviously scum, I know it seems obvious he is guys, but I'm not willing to take this risk on DP1. It's too great to do this on DP1, I'd rather participate in VTL's starting the next day phase. I almost feel like we need a townsperson to die to get more info. Plus, certain roles we have could reveal more info too at night.
I'd also like to remind everyone, losing one townsperson is not a big deal. We way outnumber mafia. I think it would be wiser to wait it out and get more info from NP1.
But yeah, you guys can hold me to a promise of a VTL on dp2. I just have too much paranoia or doubt to do this on DP 1 lol
Before I die, I just want to give some food for thought.
If I was town, I would not make it blatantly obvious, as that would make me a huge target for Mafia. If I was scum, I would not make it blatantly obvious either, for obvious reasons. If I am indeed scum, then I am very terrible at my job. As Cogent said, I could also be Jester, which means that lynching me would give me an instant win. If I am town, then lynching me would be a huge mistake, as it brings scum one step closer to victory. The chance of me being scum is a lot lower than the chance of be being innocent, meaning that lynching me first round is overall detrimental to town side. Anyone with a shred of intelligence would know that.
Claiming your position at the very beginning and singling out other people is a well known scum strategy. So is claiming to be town and forming a town hall around you. Wylted did both, and Supadudz, Greyparrot, and warren all hopped along the bandwagon. Anyone skilled in mafia would see many red flags from these individuals. I urge caution for those truly in town.
Choose wisely
Sincerely,
F
X_X
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@Cogent_Cognizer
So, let's get firm evidence out here then. Lynch press. If he is confirmed as a townsperson, we can know the people who jumped on lynching him, namely Wylted and such, are likely mafia even more.
Here is some info you may not be aware of... Town is not told who is on their team, therefore if someone votes for town it does not necessarily mean " You voted for town to eliminate a town player because you are scum". It could instead mean "You voted for town because you thought he was scum"
Food for thought.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I am aware of this. I'm also aware that scum wouldn't want to be one of the last people to jump on the bandwagon, as that's a tell. So, a wiser move would be to be one of the first people to suggest VTL, or in the middle.Here is some info you may not be aware of... Town is not told who is on their team, therefore if someone votes for town it does not necessarily mean " You voted for town to eliminate a town player because you are scum". It could instead mean "You voted for town because you thought he was scum"Food for thought.
I am putting cC in the town block and warren and reluctantly I will put Press F temporarily there but he needs to explain shit better. Like going into more detail about why bsh1 thinks he is but ugly.
I am going to re read the DP tomorrow with special attention to Supa, Warren, and PressF4.