DA and the fundamental issue of a debate website.

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Leafy and Jynx Reload suffered incredibly, tana and keemstars numbers didnt improve for a year, Logan Paul and Jake Paul fucking SAVED Keemstar, Ricegum was the only one who came off good, but his credibility of a youtuber was shattered

The credebility is gone with a CC.


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Leafy and Jynx Reload suffered incredibly, tana and keemstars numbers didnt improve for a year, Logan Paul and Jake Paul fucking SAVED Keemstar, Ricegum was the only one who came off good, but his credibility of a youtuber was shattered
That is straight false.

Here is when iDubbz uploaded the video: May 2016


He gained views and subscribers not decreased which means iDubbz gave DramaAlert free publicity. 

You made the claim their numbers didn't improve for a year yet I have demonstrated there numbers were improving a month after the video.

I like iDubbz's videos but it doesn't mean I will simply lie about what happened in order to make his content look better than it is. 
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Above.
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This tells a different story
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Content Cop was May 2016 yet you are showing data for 2017 starting from Feb. Are you sure you know what you are doing?

Me saying I had an impact then saying I did something a year before a consequence occurs isn't me causing it. 
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Except Leafy eventually became mature (see his interview) once he was like 20 whatever...
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here is actually such a website, it's edeb8 and that website is the undisputed biggest failure, excluding Civid, of online debate websites thriving in the long-run.
I accidentally murdered that website. Around 3 months ago that website was thriving almost 100 people were posting on there. But after like 5 Prescription medication is poison debates people just stopped posting. I am serious my prescription medication debate was the last debate to be ever done on that site. It has been like 3 months. Though i did like the site. Maybe  it was me shouting that prescription medication is sorcery that kept everyone interested.

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The CC lead to a rise on views, but long term effects need to be noted
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The CC lead to a rise on views, but long term effects need to be noted
What were the long term effects?


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Drop in views, I showed you, Remember?
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Drop in views, I showed you, Remember?
It wasn't because of the content cop. You have no proof. If I did something 1 year before an impact. I didn't cause it. 

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What was it
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What was it
Some other event. See his videos before the drop in views.

Give me the time frame when that dip occurred I think I can find something. 
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some other event?
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some other event?
When was the dip in viewers?

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Summer 2016 after his credebility smashed
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Summer 2016 after his credebility smashed
There was no dip. 


July 14th he was getting 725.7k views. Oct 14th 1.31m views. In April 16 he was getting 28.9m views.

It is almost like the data shows the content cop didn't actually reduce his viewer count. It is also almost like credibility tarnished doesn't actually matter. That is what the data shows. It doesn't matter if one person is right, it matters if society agrees you are right. Only then will you see the change you would like.  
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june 2 is reletively shor
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Ramshutu is the Leafy in our rivalry, that much is for sure.
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june 2 is reletively shor
A cause which is Content Cop occured in May of 2016. I have shown in Summer of 2016 that this video did not reduce DramaAlert's viewership instead it was steadily increasing. 

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but it went down
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but it went down
It went up then it went down then it went up then went back down. It started off increasing. It finished at the highest point in the year. How did content cop damage killer keemstar again? 

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If anyone was curious of my personal stance (since this is MY thread that you are all derailing which began with pinkfreud passive-aggressively flaming me severely via analogy) I loathe what leafy does and have no clue how I am seen as the Leafy here.

Ramshutu copies my images' concepts to troll me and flips them back on me. He dedicates his forum and voting strategy mostly towards trolling those who try the hardest at it (not just me, I just happen to be the tryhard) and revolves around mass-appeal to silence his victims or make them so humiliated if they don't stay silent.

This is textbook Leafyishere MO, not at all idubbz. I am, if anything the idubbz. idubbz's strategy is to say 'yeah I'm a dickhead but you know what? Person X is a bigger one and if you don't think so, so be it!'

So, pinkfreud is just leaping up and down hoping to make me feel shitty but I'm not the shallow one who uses the website to bring the other down at all, I'm the one who isn't afraid to be an asshole to an asshole is all.
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look at my chart, it clearly shows that Keemstars numbers were going down into 2017
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I copy your images because it’s objectively hilarious; as I feel it’s the most sensible way to respond to your unceasing personal attacks, threats to doxx me, claims that you will bring me down when you show BSH information about me, repeated ridiculous lies that I troll or vote against people who try hard or are approaching my level - you know, stuff that you literally pulled out of your arse out of desperation.


If I wanted to hurt you, I’d trademark my username and charge you royalties for each use. You’d be bankrupt in a week.
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That's funny the conversation you're referring to never happened, would you like to refer me to where when and how it came up? These threats?
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Perhaps take it up with the mods and refer them to the location and context of the threats and what you post on said accounts, I'm sure they'll deal with things very appropriately.
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No idea where to find the threats. They're just fantasies I made up that are fairytales, right?