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VTL BSH1

for excessive fluff.
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@Greyparrot
Please answer my question.
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A prompt reply would be appreciated.
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Nah fuck you and your fucking  obtuse game.

My vote stands .

How about you answer my question for a change:

Why do you think poisoner is more likely town?
I'll wait.

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Why do you think poisoner is more likely town?
Sure. I already answered that question.

Nah fuck you and your fucking  obtuse game.
Please now answer what I asked. Whether you think the question obtuse or not, it will help me formulate my own analysis. Thanks.
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It's highly unlikely a town person randomly got lucky and blocked the NK. 1 out of 11 chance is extremely rare, so it's far more likely scum is the poisoner.
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I also think there are balancing issues at play. A poisoner-as-NK would seem to delay the first mafia kill until DP2 or NP2. That seems to give town a leg up on mafia, and potentially an extra mislynch buffer. While we don't know the balance picture at this point, it strikes me as unlikely that town would be given such a useful leg up. It is a solely pro-town skew. A poisoner-as-town might still potentially harm town by mistargeting, but it is not guaranteed to harm town, and so strikes me, in the abstract, as less imbalanced. D 
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Thank you. 
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It's also far more likely if poisoner was town that he would immediately out himself to gain town cred instead of lurking and being mistaken for scum later on in the game, even if he had more than 1 shot of poison.
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I think that's probably the best argument I've seen for the poisoner-as-NK, which until now struck me as assumed without specific reason.
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UNVOTE
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@Greyparrot
I suppose that's true, though perhaps less so if most of us believe that the poisoner is scum. 
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Alright. I am going to log off for the night. See everyone tomorrow. Wait for Club and Speed to weigh-in please before lynching anyone.
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@bsh1
Hopefully your in college though. You're too smart to be putting things in totes for the rest of your life.

School is for nerds and people with discernable life goals.

I am neither of these things.
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But yeah definitely not putting things in totes for the rest of my life. Just until an opportunity to move to the next tax bracket comes along. Happens every 2.5 years or so.
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Talked to a psychologist  that said my problem was overthinking, that my thoughts are not me and that it was not productive. I am starting to think they are all fucking quacks. How can introspection be bad. Fucking idiot. I shit you not, the bitch refunded my money when I told her I would not accept a psychiatrist referral  and that we would handle things without shoving drugs down my throat. How the fuck can my thoughts not be me? This shit is like fucking with me head. The only way to define  any sort of "me" is through your brain wave activity. 

Seriously how do you over think anything? What is the alternative? Under thinking shit? Let's say it isn't  black and white. There is some sort of middle ground d between under thinking and over thinking. How the fuck would I precisely define exactly where that line is, so I always stay perfectly within  that line? I only talked to her for a couple of hours and she pegged me as learning disabled also. Like what the fuck? Such a complex right now. For one thing she is telling me I'm overdoing it with the thinking, but on the other hand she called me a retard. If I was a retard, wouldn't  I need to think more to compensate for my retardness?
 
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Weigh in on post 286 before lynching please. I. Fact everyone weigh in. Do I come across as a retard?
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@Wylted
I definitely have some strong thoughts on that which I am not going to try to cram into a half hour break. I'll get back to you on that lol.
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Thank you. Please do get back to that. I can't even pin point what type of learning disability so I can research the shit. Like sure you are once again somebody simultaneously  calling me a genius and a retard, but I need to know precisely  what type of retard I am so I can compensate for it. I keep replaying the 2 hour discussion and the written answers to previous interview questions she asked me to see where she got the retard ideal, but I can't  figure it out. What really pisses me off is she nagged me about quitting a really good job, and asked why, and I told her I would rather just cure Cancer or help create a super AI or something and then she asked me if I regretted quitting. What the fuck. Yes I regret it, but how the fuck does that help me live a life where I make some sort of difference instead of just slowly dying g while having no impact on the world.
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I once  again found a job willing to pay me too much to do shit I am unqualified to do, so I am fine. 
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Be honest, have you guys ever had auditory or visual hallucinations? Quick poll. I suspect they are more common than what people believe? 

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Mind is racing more questions.

1. How do you guys not walk around in a constant state of panic. Life is short, you will die. It is not heaven, is is not like going to sleep. You will stop existing. Some people describe it as sleep but there is a level of co sciousness in sleep. You will stop existing and nothing you have ever done will ever matter. How does that not panic you?

2. Every day people make decisions that could end In others dying or contribute to it. How do you live knowing that if you discovered a way to behave optimally that many lives may have been saved and that everytime you have a big feast, that is money you deprived legitimate starving children of? 

3.  Your children will eventually get old get sick and die. How do you live with yourself that you have procreate and the act of doing so has condemned  your children to death. 

Think really hard about the auditory hallucinations? I have heard my name called and have heard knocking sounds. Has it happened ever to you? Be honest this time


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@Wylted
Thank you. Please do get back to that

On second thought, not here in the DP. Too much fluff as it is. Make a new thread and tag me in it.
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@Greyparrot
Club is the poison doc. It fits perfectly with chancey
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Nah he would have revealed that immediately.
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VTL CLUB
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@Wylted
Scum would Target you to cause chaos and confuse town. Also that way they don’t have to kill one of their mostly children targets.

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I'm not willing to accept any fake claim from club at this point. He has had ample time to come totally clean today about why he hammered the vtnl, and came up short.

Scum or idiot town, this is the lynch today.

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Rereading the DP. I am more convinced now that mharm and club are scum together. Besides what I have already pointed out regarding their shenanigans last DP there is the way club claimed and the way Mharman responded to it this DP.

Don't focus too much on the mathematics of the claim itself, look at the way it all happened.

Club comes in immediately after someone mentions something about a poison doctor and character claims. Notice he did not at the time and as far as I know still has not role claimed, yet Mharman immediately jumps on it and tells everyone that this means club is a poison doctor because Chansey is a doctor Pokemon. Again club did not claim any role at that time and in fact when I asked him to clarify his claim he was intentionally obtuse (posts 57 and 58).

Feels like what happened is mharm told club to claim Chansey/poison doc right after oros post and club flubbed it by only claiming Chansey. To everyone else that looked at clubs post it was not clear that he was claiming doc at all (posts 39 and 57) so why was it immediately so clear to mharm? Because he was not going off of clubs confusing stream of consciousness posts, he was going off of what he knew he told club to claim.

I am convinced that these are two of our scum and I think after we kill these two we just need to reread the DPs to find the third one easily. I sense a town win coming up.
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@bsh1
Club claimed Chancey, which sounds like a doc, not a poisoner. Grey is trying to say that Club is the poisoner. Don’t by into it.