Arthropoda Mafia DP1

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Why do I feel like this is just really bold bussing?

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That is 4 of 6. One more voter and I will hammer to ease Oro's anxiety
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@oromagi
That means somebody is colluding with WP on the PMs.
Some paranoia is good in a game like this. I agree that something feels off about these events, but ignorance is still the most likely culprit (at least until more evidence emerges).

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I wish I knew whether or not Water figured out how to use the scum PM, because if he is using it than what BSH1 did would make me lean town on him. I mean really I lean town on anyone not SUPA right now because I think he is the final scum, but that would solidify it more.
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@oromagi
if u prove town I will admit that maneuver was spectacular- i just don't see any reason to believe right now 
Right now, with a hard scum slip, the best move is to lynch Water. Whatever scheming might have transpired, it is certainly the case that Water is scum. 
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@Wylted
Auto correct screwed me over
Talk about a Freudian slip.

Also, I am caught up.
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@bsh1
From MafiaWiki

Bussing's too common!

So common that it is more shocking to see someone not bussing than it is to see someone bus.

If I see a scum lynch, I immediately begin analyzing the players on the lynch, looking for the bussers I'm near-guaranteed to find. Vice-versa, too; if I see a town lynch, I look off the wagon to see where the scum are. In both cases, it's obviously not the only place I look, but it tells you what I expect these days in a game.

The point's been lost.

The point of bussing has been forgotten.

The point of bussing wasn't "oh, you're scummy, so a town-me would be voting you, sorry mate". The point of bussing was to gain more than you would lose. Risk-Reward analysis was the driving force behind the decision to bus, and almost nobody (except a small minority of mostly-pre-2010-joindate players) does so anymore.

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@oromagi
My vote's on Dudz right now but I am suspicious AF of u & disc
Why are you FOSing Dudz?

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@bsh1
name shame in killing a guy
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Let's leave the vote count at L2 for now. There's still more conversation to have in this DP. We have 96 hours...there isn't any need to rush.
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that was:  no shame in killing a guy or gettin kilt.  Sometimes, I just shoot SupaDudz on sight- stand your ground kind of thing.
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@oromagi
Bussing is honestly stupid. Just act like town. You can replicate scum hunting by trying to find power roles or some shit. Very easy to simulate the behavior of town and bussing literally gains you nothing.
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@bsh1
You want to comment on Supa's freudian slip? 
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My (amateurish) default is to kill the quiet:

  • ILikePie5
  • K_Michael
  • warren42

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    killing the quiet with no good reads is fine, if you know they are lurking since lurking is scummy
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    @oromagi
    Bussing's too common!
    I agree that bussing is common, but this is only the case when a member of the mafia is already suspected by the town. Bussing out of nowhere is not common in my experience, because it deprives mafia of a player that counts towards their majority. Keeping a larger team hastens mafia's point of victory. While there are benefits to bussing out of nowhere, the calculus is less straightforward, and thus the action is not particularly common.
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    @oromagi
    Explain the Supa thing more thoroughly and using straightforward language.
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    @Wylted
    I did comment on it.
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    @bsh1
    My memory of Wylted is he liked big risk
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    @bsh1
    Not to my satisfaction LOL. 

    1. What do you think the best explanation for him using that wording is?

    The above question is really what I am trying to pry out of everyone, regardless of how I phrase my prying.

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    BTW, SupaDudz is doing The SupaDudz Memorial Profile Pic Pick o' the Week this week which is "In Honor of Etika"
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    @oromagi
    I'm impatient and I like forcing things, fast. I guess that can appear to look like risk taking. 
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    Speaking of Etika, When I felt like killing myself I talked to about 10 different suicidal people. It took me outside of myself quite a bit and it felt good to help them move to a better place. By the way if you guys ever are in a position to talk somebody out of suicide, instead of saying stupid shit like "It will get better" "You are being selfish" or "You are Loved" just try to build rapport with them and see where things take you. I felt like nobody was helping me, so I sought out people who were on the verge of suicide and decided to help them. I still try to help one person a day. I don't know what happens to these people after I talk to them but I think I may have saved some lifes. It feels good. 
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    I should delete that last post, it sounds like bragging but whatever. Too late

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    @Wylted
    sounded good to me, Wylted
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    @K_Michael
    ride or die


    VTL K_Michael
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    @Mharman
    our mod has let his mafia fun interfere with more important duties 

    the daily ANTS has been updated
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    Hasn’t been updated 
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    (belch)
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    @oromagi
    Explanation on Supa?