#Sexstrike

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@triangle.128k
Show the insults and how they compare to yours and where do you see aggression and hostility in my post that doesn't exist in yours.
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@Alec
Add 300,000 to 100,000 and try not to get 103,000, there's a good chappy.
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Most of the 300,000 kids will get adopted by families that the mothers seek out.  Assuming 99% of them get adopted to other families that the mother seeks out on her own(it's close to that), the foster system's population only goes up by 3000.  Pro life laws have worked well in New Zealand, parts of Australia, Japan, South Korea, and Poland.  The world won't end with pro life laws.
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@Alec
And you are quite willing to rescind your right to bodily autonomy?
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@Alec
Yeah we get it. You “hope” the kids will get adopted, and you’re just closing as fact what your wishful thinking says.

Simpy repeating what you hope will happen, despite the issues with it is not a great argument.


My plan is gaurenteed to ensure that all children get a home, no one will get let behind - and children will be taken care of by conservatives who have willingly signed their name to agree that the needs of a child that is inconvenient to them trumps their own.


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Should we just kill homeless orphans to solve the problem?
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Haven't seen a reply yet, are you a hypocrite?
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Does keeping homeless orphans alive require the government to violate anyone’s personal bodily autonomy?
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I'm willing to not have sex to avoid a baby forming.
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@Alec
Answer the question, don't run away. Are you prepared for all males to relinquish their right to bodily autonomy.
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I would have put money down that this thread would drop like a rock since there is so little room for discrepancy with the OP. It just sat there for awhile, and then someone finally posted and off it went.


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@Ramshutu
Why are you using the argument of orphans if your real rationale was bodily autonomy? 

Anyhows, why should a woman have the right for the "bodily autonomy" of ceasing a pregnancy if it means murder is taking place? Why does bodily autonomy supercede the right to life? 
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This is the most virgin, prudish thread i have checked into... other humans thinking they are significant enough to tell people not to have sex lol.

Alec, you had an interesting conversation about invading and killing millions of people in Africa (including children)... but god you need to grow up and enter reality. Seriously... who are the people you listen to? They are massively steering you into the wrong direction. Do you seriously talk about these ideas irl?  

Ramshutu... seriously no... we don't need to give thousands of kids to people like Alec man... bad idea. I'd rather die if i was the fetus.
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@triangle.128k
murder is taking place?
Is it murder? If someone was going to murder someone you love and you had a gun... would you shot that person? If someone was about to murder someone on the street and you had a gun... would you shot that person? If you were in a doctor's office and they were about to do an abortion and you had a gun... would you shot the doctor? 

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Of course has probably they asked for it kinda guy.
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@Alec

Why didn't you post in the society forum?

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This is not an abortion topic. Alex made it one when it was suggested he not tell women who and when to fuck.
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@triangle.128k
Why should you have the right to bodily autonomy to have a gangrenous leg amputated?
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Let’s start somewhere simple.

Does the government have the right to demand you give part of your liver to someone who is dying? Or bone marrow? Or blood?

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@Ramshutu
False analogy. That person is dying, not being murdered. 
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False analogy, that doesn't involve murdering a baby. 
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I’m not making an analogy.

I’m asking if you would be happy for the government to be able to take a kidney, or piece of your liver?
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I would not, but that is irrelevant to the abortion debate for the reason I stated earlier. 
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@triangle.128k
Its very relevant to the abortion debate - just not an analogy.

why do you think it’s not okay for the Government to take part of your kidney, or liver?
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There is no baby involved, you must be thinking of some biblical fantasy. I prefer reality.
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@Ramshutu
It's not relevant because it does not involve directly murdering somebody. Rather, it involves the government forcing an organ out of somebody for saving one who is already dying. 

It's absolutely irrelevant and pointless to go on about because it has no bearing of resemblance. Sure bodily autonomy is important, just not if it means murder. 

Is refusing to donate an organ murder? No, they're already dying. That person didn't directly kill them.


Stupid point and mental gymnastics.
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Are you prepared for all males to relinquish their right to bodily autonomy.
They already lost that in many instances since they can't assault a woman.  Granted, this type of restriction is fine.  But should a woman be restricted too?  A woman should not be allowed to get out of a pregnancy, and neither should a man.
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Abortion is political.  I guess we have different views as to where it goes to.
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How pro choice are you?  To 20 weeks?  To viability?  All the way until birth?  Would you be fine with banning it beyond 6 weeks?
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@Alec
Why?