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You are advocating for more imprisonment, more harm to society. This stems from a broad stroke of thinking people are rational, responsible, moral, ethical, etc. There are bad people in this world, there are idiots in this world, there are many different types of people. You can't ban abortion and expect adoptions is the way to save the thousands, if not millions of new kids that will be born into a world. That is not rational, that is not reality. 

Backyard / black market abortions won't happen? I don't have time to look up stats, but i'm pretty sure the number won't change off of times it was illegal or places that it is... you can't stop it. People don't share your same ethics and morals. Then, your solution will be to imprison, imprison, imprison... first of all, good luck proving these people are doing that, second of all... lets have another drug type war. SMH.  

Reality is "not all" but a good amount will suffer. All of the things i listed will happen to a certain percentage of these babies being born into those situations. There isn't enough resources to even stop those evils from happening now... yet, you want to flood the system with more of it. It will happen. It will not play out how you think it will play out... bc you are only thinking about the good people willing to cooperate with your view... those are the minority in my opinion.   

If we are taking a spiritual sense as well... How about people like me? I would rather be aborted than to exist in that type of world. Why would you force a "soul" like mine to be born? What if i didn't want to be born? You would be forcing me to be born which i would likely later commit suicide if my situation was any different than it is now.  

It's a net negative anyway you look at it bc it will not play out how you think it will. You think the world is like you... it's not. And bc it's not... your solution is the punish those that don't believe like you... i think that's evil. 
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You are advocating for more imprisonment, more harm to society.
When did I say that?  I was thinking it would be just a camp for a day or so that they would attend on a personal day.

You can't ban abortion and expect adoptions is the way to save the thousands, if not millions of new kids that will be born into a world. That is not rational, that is not reality. 
Adoption is fine, but abortion isn't.

People don't share your same ethics and morals.
If someone was an anarchist and they thought that murdering others was okay, they are allowed to believe that.  They cross the line when they actually act on their beliefs and murder.  

Reality is "not all" but a good amount will suffer. 
A very small portion of people will suffer and innocents get saved from abortion.  It will probably cause feminists to go on sex strikes, which are totally fine.  They did that when Alabama challenged Roe.  If the whole nation goes Alabama on abortion, feminists would go on sex strikes too, which is totally okay.

I would rather be aborted than to exist in that type of world. Why would you force a "soul" like mine to be born? What if i didn't want to be born? You would be forcing me to be born which i would likely later commit suicide if my situation was any different than it is now.  
I don't want to provoke you to do something, but if the average person valued death over living a bad life, then all the people living in foster systems would commit suicide, or a majority of them would.  But this is not the case.  Death is scary.  Because of this, whether or not people say it, unless they have committed suicide, they value their life.  Since you value your life evidently (since you have not committed suicide yet), I encourage you to keep it that way and to value your life, even if it's a crappy life, over death, because death is bad.  

your solution is the punish those that don't believe like you
That is the leftist solution since pro lifers get punished way more for being pro life then the other way around.
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That is the leftist solution since pro lifers get punished way more for being pro life then the other way around.
What? How?

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Not saying that all left people do it, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ImcOC9jRqs.  I don't know any pro choicers that got assaulted for their beliefs.
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 I was thinking it would be just a camp for a day or so that they would attend on a personal day.
First of all, taking away people from their life and putting them into a camp against their will is imprisonment. Secondly, come on... this sounds like child mentality stuff. What? You're going to give them merit badges and slap their hands and say no? There are women addicted to doing abortions... they do it for fun. Humanity isn't a fantasy man... real life ain't how you think. 

Adoption is fine, but abortion isn't.
That's your opinion. 

If someone was an anarchist and they thought that murdering others was okay, they are allowed to believe that.  They cross the line when they actually act on their beliefs and murder.  
I do not believe abortion is murder. I look at it as a mercy to a potential life (but not a life). I disagree with abortion at certain times. I think it should be more of stages. I believe brain activity is what is needed to be conscious, but i'm willing to concede heart beat. After heart beat starts, there should be classes that teach about abortion and its effects. Up to when the nervous system attaches and connects the brain activity (around 20 weeks i think) there should be caution and education. After that, it should be only severe cases. We should teach more, we should talk about consequences... but banning is idiotic fundamentalist bs. 

A very small portion of people will suffer
How do you know this? The sex strike stuff you brought up is childish so i won't respond. 

Death is scary. 
"You" think death is scary. I personally can't wait bc i think it's exciting. But i have enough to live for that i will live my whole life so don't worry... i'm getting paid well to type to you write now and have a lot of love in my life. I'm in no rush, but can't wait. Take my personality and put me in a situation that is crap... i personally have a border line sociopathic mind... in any other situation that is negative... you would fear me, trust me on that... suicide wouldn't be my exist. I don't hurt inward, i enjoy hurting outward... if that makes sense. This is off topic anyways since you say you're atheist... which is weird you sited fundie steven crowders name ... he's wrong on this issue btw. 

That is the leftist solution since pro lifers get punished way more for being pro life then the other way around.
There is a difference. You are punishing yourself (i do not find that to be evil or wrong - punish yourself all you want). It is not in your right to tell anyone who to be or how to live. That child is a part of the mother. And if she makes the decision that brings her to the conclusion "not yet" ... she has every right to give life to a human being when she wants to. It's a part of her... not you. You have no right to bring your worldview onto others.  
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I mean..


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First of all, taking away people from their life and putting them into a camp against their will is imprisonment.
It's just a personal day.  They can reschedule it if necessary.  They would get fined for not showing up if they didn't show up the first day.

There are women addicted to doing abortions... they do it for fun. 
How can you be addicted to killing babies?

That's your opinion. 
The claim that a fetus is a human being is a simple yes or no question.  It doesn't vary based off of one's opinion.  Either a fetus at a certain stage is a human being or they aren't.  Evidence is required for both sides.

I do not believe abortion is murder. 
Not backed by science.

but i'm willing to concede heart beat. After heart beat starts, there should be classes that teach about abortion and its effects. Up to when the nervous system attaches and connects the brain activity (around 20 weeks i think)

"You" think death is scary. I personally can't wait bc i think it's exciting. But i have enough to live for that
A fetus has, "enough to live for that" too.

have a lot of love in my life.
So does an "unwanted" child once they get adopted, which on average happens in about 2 years(http://www.adopt.org/adoption-statistics).  

Take my personality and put me in a situation that is crap.
You won't commit suicide and I don't want you to either, so this is not a dare.  Get help.  Here's a link for you to get started(https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/).

It is not in your right to tell anyone who to be or how to live.
There are many non-controversial examples where this is not the case.  We tell people not to murder.  We tell people not to rape.  We tell people not to kidnap.  We tell people not to spread HIV non consensually.  If someone wanted a murderous lifestyle, or wanted a lifestyle as a rapist, that would be and should be illegal.  The same logic ought to be applied to be abortion.

That child is a part of the mother. 
They have separate DNA and often separate blood types.  Your body can't have 2 different blood types or 2 different DNA codes.

It's a part of her... not you. You have no right to bring your worldview onto others.  
The law dos it on murder, on rape, on kidnapping, and assault.  The law forces their worldview onto others in these instances.  The law ought to do the same thing to abortions.


If you don't like the image, don't support abortions; simple as that.
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There are militants on both sides, but pro lifers are viewed as "hate speech"


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Accidentally kicking someone is on a rather different scale to murder, arson, intentional assault and kidnapping. I'm not sure why you are trying to equate the two
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It wasn't an accident and a few people on the left (not always applying to you) are trying to censor the right.
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The kick was intended for the camera, not the person. Hence the person was accidentally kicked even if the property wasn't. Not a stellar display in eithercase but on the otherhand, it doesn't really compare to murder, arson and kidnapping.



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The kick was intended for the camera, not the person.
Destroying property in the name of your ideology isn't justified either, on both sides.  My previous link showed that pro lifers were being labeled in liberal buzzwords, "hate speech", "harassment".  Eventually, people will take these seriously and would want to ban pro life speech.  Currently the left controls the euphemisms and dyphemisms and these need to be banned from law so our laws make more sense.
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It's just a personal day.  They can reschedule it if necessary.  They would get fined for not showing up if they didn't show up the first day.
This is imprisonment, this is unrealistic, this is not reality. 

How can you be addicted to killing babies?
I don't know. Why do people drink their own urine thinking it's a youthful medicine? I'm not here to tell you why people do crazy things, but that these people exist. 

The claim that a fetus is a human being is a simple yes or no question. 
It's a potential human being. So, yes... in the general sense it's a human embryo. 

Not backed by science.
Can you murder grass, can you murder your cells, why? If you say cutting down a tree is murder... then by that definition, fine i agree. In any case, this goes down a rabbit hole. I'd rather abortions happen to an unconscious fetus and i'm against it if the brain is fully functioning. But i know to put what i want aside bc the alternative would be worse. However, i do not think most abortions happen when the brain is fully functioning (when the cerebral cortex forms). If it does... i'm against it unless it was to save a baby from pain or a mother from death. I'm glad mainly they happen before the baby is viable outside the mother. I'm going off memory here... but i'm pretty sure that's when the spinal cord attaches / the brain stem forms... can't remember. 

brain activity happens at 6 weeks
Sure... at this point we should start teaching about abortions to one that wants to have it, showing them alternatives, etc.  

A fetus has, "enough to live for that" too.
I didn't know you have had a conversation with a fetus. 

So does an "unwanted" child once they get adopted, which on average happens in about 2 years
How many foster kids or babies go without getting adopted? How many age out of the system without a home? Now... multiply at least a million to that if everyone was forced to have kids... you're an unrealistic person man. Even our last conversations... you don't live in reality. Or, you just don't understand humanity and future consequences very well. 

You won't commit suicide and I don't want you to either, so this is not a dare.
Apparently, you also have reading comprehension problems making this idiotic remark... "outward pain" meaning i'd be a drug lord that feeds people to pigs. I'm not suicide material buddy. 

There are many non-controversial examples where this is not the case.
You're also dense... jesus man, I just told you what i meant... why are you making me re-read my own last posts... I said you are harming yourself with whatever you said about pro-choicers hurting you. Everything you just listed is harming "another" conscious human being... i'm not advocating to abort conscious babies.    

They have separate DNA and often separate blood types.  Your body can't have 2 different blood types or 2 different DNA codes.
You watch too much Steven Crowder... 

The law dos it on murder, on rape, on kidnapping, and assault. 
Again... this is bc it's harming another human conscious human being... the person raping, assaulting, murdering... "Is the one" imposing their worldview onto you... therefore, we stop it through laws. How is that hard to understand, freaking zeus. 

If you don't like the image, don't support abortions; simple as that.
I don't like the image of a hemorrhoid surgery but i'll get one if i have too. You're arguments are too influenced by others man... it's boring to be honest. No creativity. This just feels like something someone else convinced you to believe... that's why you are incapable of looking at the whole picture.
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Once again for the terminally slow.
Define sexual immorality.
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Nah, they just get murdered by conservitards outside clinics. Your understanding of life is pre-pubescent at best.
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The law dos it on murder, on rape, on kidnapping, and assault.  The law forces their worldview onto others in these instances.  The law ought to do the same thing to abortions.
So you are prepared to have the law remove your right to bodily autonomy? I bet you're not.


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Currently the left controls the euphemisms and dyphemisms and these need to be banned from law so our laws make more sense.

No more freedom, No more freedom, No more freedom, the conservitard mantra.
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Wow check mate, libtards 

I can’t believe that people on all sides of the political spectrum have contradictory views about what can and can’t be effectively banned. I am so glad that I read this enlightening analysis 
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Once again for the terminally slow.
Define sexual immorality.

What you do in the restroom at the club.
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Once again for the terminally slow.
Define sexual immorality.

You could just admit the truth, that you have no valid definition. Have you ever encountered truth?

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The truth is that I believe you are a nihilist, so explaining anything to you is a waste of time.

I feel nothing but pity for you, because you are very deceived. You really do deserve your loneliness. 

The good news is that it doesn't have to be this way for you.




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Proof once again that you can't define what you call sexual immorality. You are a compulsive LIAR and you prove it every time you are asked a question.
Sexual immorality exists only in that space between your flapping ears.

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I think there are different types of intelligence, as explained here. http://www.institute4learning.com/resources/articles/multiple-intelligences/

  • Linguistic intelligence (“word smart”)
  • Logical-mathematical intelligence (“number/reasoning smart”)
  • Spatial intelligence (“picture smart”)
  • Bodily-Kinesthetic intelligence (“body smart”)
  • Musical intelligence (“music smart”)
  • Interpersonal intelligence (“people smart”)
  • Intrapersonal intelligence (“self smart”)
  • Naturalist intelligence (“nature smart”)
I would say that Conservatives have higher Intrapersonal, Naturalist, and Logical-Mathematical intelligence than Liberals, while Liberals would have higher Interpersonal, Linguistic, and Spatial intelligence than Conservatives, while they both have about the equal amount of Musical and Bodily-Kinesthetic intelligence.

I wouldn't say that Liberals are stupid in general, but rather that they make poorer political decisions, and should be trusted with different things.
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Why are you reviving all of my old threads