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@Goldtop
Jesus loves you, goldtop.
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@Mopac
What's interesting is that I probably have a far better understanding of what Jesus was talking about then you.Jesus loves you, goldtop.
Jesus would not sit there all day repeating Ultimate Reality over and over in everyone's face. You don't get him at all, you have some warped idiotoic version of what Jesus was saying.
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@Goldtop
Well why don't you tell us what you think Jesus was about?
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@Mopac
Yes, church membership would likely go down.
So you don't believe that Jesus would reach out to all these children on his own and convince them to come to church? Why not? That's the discussion, you're finally there! The question is WHY you think church membership would go down as a result of keeping children under the age of reason out of the church entirely. Why is going to church at that age so important to propagating a faith? Especially if it's the truth.
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@Dr.Franklin
Im gonna be honest: your kinda retarded
I must say, nothing's better on the internet than someone trying to insult your intelligence and inside of seven words, getting two of them wrong. Sorry, I guess I should say YOU'RE intelligence.
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@ludofl3x
The same reason that less people would know how to read if we didn't teach reading until "the age of reason"
Oh Jesus would go out and reach people. He does even now.
See, you are implying something nefarious that isn't there. Maybe we shouldn't teach kids to share or be nice to eachother until they reach the age of reason either.
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@Mopac
Not exactly. If we didn't teach people to read, your example, until the age of reason, the number of readers would not likely decline overall. First of all, it's near impossible to get by in a modern world if you're not literate in at least one language. Eventually, it stands to reason that people must learn to read in order to compete with people who are already reading for everything. Where to get food, how much to pay, etc. Reading is a survival skill in some ways. So you would have less YOUNG readers, but many would indeed need to learn to read. I'm not implying anything nefarious: your answer to the question seems to at least imply that you understand childhood naivete to be a major tool in the church's recruitment arsenal. That's not really in question, though, is it?
The question then becomes do you believe that many people, after reaching the age of reason as laid out by the church (so, for a Catholic, this would be around 14, when they receive "confirmation" today), would choose church? If Jesus would still go out and get these kids, why then would you oppose this ban implemented by the church, and why then would church attendance dwindle?
Boil it down some more and ya have a god wanting us to meet at a clubhouse.
God doesn't want you doing anything. Stay out of others clubhouses.
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@Mopac
He was nothing like you, troll. Jesus was a compassionate person who tried to get through numbskulls like you who are intolerant, ignorant and hateful towards others. You would have been one of those in the crowd throwing stones and yelling obscenities at him while he died on the cross. So, just think about yourself and then think about the opposite of yourself.Well why don't you tell us what you think Jesus was about?
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@Dr.Franklin
Im gonna be honest: your kinda retarded
Lol, says the guy who wrote this title...
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@Goldtop
I honestly don't know how you would get this impression from me, but I'd be lying if I said I put much stock in it.
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@ludofl3x
The ascetic life has never sounded appealing to the majority.
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@Mopac
You wouldn't know honesty if it smacked you upside the head. Honesty is not something you ever bring to the table, it is a foreign concept to you that is avoided at all costs.I honestly don't know how you would get this impression from me, but I'd be lying if I said I put much stock in it.
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@Goldtop
Jesus loves you, goldtop.
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@Mopac
Jesus loves you, goldtop.
Unfortunately, Jesus is not going to take kindly to you, troll. You've done more damage to his reputation than anyone else here and are a shining example of how he taught people not to be. He probably has a very special place for you and your ilk by the fire. Don't forget the marshmallows.
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@Goldtop
Lord have mercy.
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@Mopac
Right, but what's that got to do with why church participation would eventually die out if you excluded people under the age of 16 from the outset, and instead relied on their choosing the churches that make sense to them at 16?
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@Mopac
Lord have mercy.
With you? Highly unlikely.
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@ludofl3x
It wouldn't die out. I dispute that sssertoon.
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@Goldtop
Whats wrong with the title.
Correct TITLE = AWAKE HUMANS BAN the JESUS and ALLAH Vampire CULTS
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@Mopac
So you think it would go down but not die out? Sorry, you posted this earlier. The extrapolation is that if Jesus doesn't go recruit new members to join on their 16th birthday and instead those new members go someplace else, then eventually your current base would literally die and there would be a dearth of replacements within a generation. Within two generations, it's safe to say many churches would face closure. Again, this is if Jesus doesn't go solve the problem as the priest lays out in his sermon.Do you just want us to state the obvious?Yes, church membership would likely go down.Now what point do you think this proves?
I guess then my question is how would the church continue to propagate if you're not adding new adherents but you're losing old ones. Or the faith, in this case, not the building.
Fact is not a single person joins a religion after the age of 16 even though I have joined two and not one before I was 20.
What comes first?
Joining a religious group
Orrrrrrr
A belief in God.
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If you believe in God you join a group FULL STOP
Fact is not a single person joins a religion after the age of 16 even though I have joined two and not one before I was 20.
Maybe I misunderstood either the word "fact" then. If you joined a religious group after the age of 20, then wouldn't "not a single person joins a religion after the age of 16" demonstrably NOT a fact? Or did you mean single as in "unmarried"? Or did you miss a couple of commas somewhere in the "even though" portion, as in "I have joined two, and not one, before I was 20." I read it originally as "I have joined two, neither before I was 20 years old."
Let's say you're the exception, why do you think very few people join religions after the age of 16? Let me guess: it's because I'm a retarded bigot?
Repeat tard says what?
Yes.You are.
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@ludofl3x
Yes, I understand you are talking about the faith not the building.
I think you are operating under the assumption that the only reason anyone would be a Christian is because they are "indoctrinated" as children.
Truly though, the faith would not be as big as it is today if not for converts. It would not have survived for thousands of years. There will always be converts. And though we live in an anti-Christian and even an anti-intellectual age, there will always be a remnant. The gates of hades will not overcome the church. This is a promise from Jesus that I certainly believe.
And to be clear, the one doing the converting is ALWAYS Jesus.
And a good sizable chunk of the saints glorified in the church were converts.
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@ludofl3x
Though not everyone is born to a tribe, many are,
To that of their ancestors, and ancestors ancestors.
Religion often includes history, culture.
Morality and Philosophy is often spoken in religion,
Correct conduct towards life, and towards others,
Discussion on 'why such conduct is right.
. . .
I suppose you could argue that the tribe, history, culture, morality, philosophy,
Can all be reached without religion,
Various reasons are had for actions in life,
Tribes within and without,
. . .
Arbitrary though, it seems somehow,
Having not a decent reason for 'why,
I shrug why not.
I'm not generally bothered by religious indoctrination, any more than the various other indoctrinations we press towards children, encouraging them towards what we view as good, right in life.