Yes. This is to save lives. If we take the organs from those who have good organs that would save lives, I'm pro innocent life. The rights of the living outweigh the rights of dead bodies.
Should organ donation be mandatory?
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@Alec
no, however it should be an opt-out vs opt-in kind of system. currently you are assumed to not be an organ donor unless you take the steps to show/affirm that you are one. I'd like to see it the other way around for simplicity.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Why would people opt out?
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@Alec
So basically it's your stance no organ is your own. Got it.
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@Polytheist-Witch
At death, your correct. At death, you own nothing.
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@Alec
most wouldn't, most wouldn't take the time to opt in, but I guess there could be some religious reasons as to why someone would be against that. Anyway it's easier to do it my way lol
people don't like to be told what to do or not given choices, you have to find the path of least resistance.
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@Alec
Why not? I can will my stuff or not why do you get my organs when I'm dead? You have a really warped sense of personal freedom. If the unborn have rights the dead should too.
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@Alec
At death, your correct. At death, you own nothing.
actually that's a great argument, you no longer have any rights......interesting.
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@Polytheist-Witch
I guess there could be some religious reasons as to why someone would be against that.
I don't think there's a single religion out there that prohibits organ donation.
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@Polytheist-Witch
If the unborn have rights the dead should too.
If women don't have bodily autonomy when another's life is at stake, neither should a dead person.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
actually that's a great argument, you no longer have any rights......interesting.
If I were dead, you'd be correct. But I'm not dead yet. It's good enough to be a monty python skit.(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdf5EXo6I68).
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@Alec
Wrong.
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@Alec
Comparing the living and the dead. Wrong. Comparing the unborn and the dead. Get it right and quit trying to change the rules of the discussion.
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@Alec
one of the very basic elements to have rights is to not be dead.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Comparing the living and the dead. Wrong. Comparing the unborn and the dead.
The unborn are living.
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@Alec
Not if they need life support to continue to exist. They are not a person even.
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@Polytheist-Witch
I would keep people on life support alive for as long as the person who is on life support priorly wanted to be. Insurance pays for it.
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@Alec
Maybe religious reasons, or because they don't want doctors to look at them like a bag of fresh meatWhy would people opt out?
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@Snoopy
Maybe religious reasons
What religion prohibits the practice?
because they don't want doctors to look at them like a bag of fresh meat
When they're dead, why would they care? I know I won't care when I'm dead because I'll be dead.
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@Alec
I was thinking when they are still alive, but yeah, there's the thought of your body that you've had respected your whole life being ransacked.
Also, what we will in life is something that shouldn't be simply dismissed.
What religion prohibits the practice?
I don't know. I've heard in passing that the body is relevant to the afterlife according to some ways
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@Snoopy
Doctors would be a little hypocritical since they too by their own logic would be bags of meat. They wouldn't see half of the already organ donor population as bags of meat. When your dead, so what? You don't have feelings when your dead. Plus, one organ donor saves up to 8 lives.
Also, what we will in life is something that shouldn't be simply dismissed.
Fiscally, you have a point. However, there are 3 options for dead bodies:
1) Their organs are donated.
2) Chemicals that you would never put into your body are put into dead people that dries the body out.
3) Cremation.
#1 isn't good for your body, but neither are the other 2 options. At least #1 benefits other people.
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@Snoopy
I don't know. I've heard in passing that the body is relevant to the afterlife according to some ways
It's not. If there is a religion that is against organ donating, then members of that religion may be given an exemption, but only members of said religion would get the exemption. It would be pretty rare.
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@Alec
Your freedom hating bigotry is showing.
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@Polytheist-Witch
I believe in freedom/small government on:
-Guns
-Homosexuality
-Insurance
-Religion
-Military
-Ideology
-Possibly more things.
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@Alec
why not leave organ donation option, for the sake of freedom, but giving organs only to those that opt into donating them? that's what i've long proposed. people have said it's iinhumane, but i'd say it's only fair if there are a limited number of organs to go around.
plus it's rare but sometimes they take organs from someone who isn't completely dead or who might have a chance for revival. so i would still give the choice to donate here.
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@n8nrgmi
Alex has serious issues with anyone having the freedom to do anything he wouldn't or thinks is the most moral choice.
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@n8nrgmi
Giving organs only to those that opt to donate them is a good idea, but if you care about your own body, then you won't get the help you would need in some instances. I would rather save lives then expose hypocrisy.
plus it's rare but sometimes they take organs from someone who isn't completely dead or who might have a chance for revival.
Only bodies that are declared dead by doctors are harvested for organs. The odds of some person resurrecting from the dead is extremely low and does not compensate the amount of lives that get saved by the policy.
After they harvest your organs, what do they do with the rest of the body?
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@Mopac
Whatever would be useful. Given that they don't treat your body pretty basically by pouring drying chemicals in it, your body won't be treated well either way. Why not help society with it?