Friendship ended with Drumpf. Now: Andrew Yang is my best friend

Really, the best argument I can use to checkmate you is the fact that the only government branch that seems to be able to get anything done in the last 30 years is the president...who has...you guessed it...term limits!!

Nothing wrong with term limits there.

There's plenty I disagree with Yang on, but none of it is disqualifying. I agree with him on all the most important issues, e.g. economics, healthcare, foreign policy, immigration (kinda), rejection of identity politics (kinda). That's enough to earn my vote.

There's plenty I disagree with Yang on, but none of it is disqualifying. I agree with him on all the most important issues, e.g. economics, healthcare, foreign policy, immigration (kinda), rejection of identity politics (kinda). That's enough to earn my vote.

True, but look at how those statistics have changed in the past decade or so. Liberals took a SHARP left turn on racial issues, and we're in the middle of that purity spiral right now. I'm not sure how long the current racial narrative can last because a lot of it is just objectively not true (for example, liberal whites rating white people and christians as more violent than black people.) I think a lot of the current behavior on the left is defensive in nature as their narrative is coming apart pretty rapidly as the pre civil rights era fades further and further into the past. The civil rights movement, WWII, and the holocaust are the founding myths of progressive ideology and all of these things are fading from living memory quite rapidly. It's really really tough to say but I don't see this current era lasting. Millennials as a generation are a complete mess though, so who knows. 

I pretty much agree with what you're saying, but the most important thing you can do to minimize the politics as a proxy for racial conflict is to reduce the stakes of politics. So when I say there's a sane way to govern a multi racial society, what I mean is that we need to just accept the fact that large parts of the American southwest are majority hispanic now, and that they don't necessarily need to be governed the same way as a 90% white state like Iowa. Decentralization is the key...the problem is that as this stuff is rapidly comes to a head people have less and less incentive to give up power whenever their group attains it. And as Yang points out, add some economic instability with the demographic changes and you have a recipe for some very rough times. I have no idea why we are importing tens of millions of people into the Western world to do jobs that may not exist in a few decades

Do you know that it's white jobless people who are draining the economy, if you would actually look at the data? The reason that blacks have a large portion of then also that poor is because of how low they began a few generations ago vs how high the whites began even more generations back.

You're a complete lunatic if you think that end results prove some kind of cause in it being wrong to integrate. If you were to measure the happiness and general quality of life in nations that live other races and nations that don't, you'd see precisely how bullshit and brain washed your ideology is. Instead, you think only staying rich matters and even the. Those nations outperform.

Yang is the only 2020 candidate who has proposed a viable solution to the widespread economic insecurity in this country. I've wavered on this issue a lot in the past, but I think I've finally come to the conclusion that it isn't possible to achieve universal gainful employment. It never has been, and it never will be, regardless of what automation does or doesn't do to labor markets in the future. Ultimately, income redistribution is the only way to ensure a decent standard of living for everyone. I don't support universal basic income as the mechanism for doing that, though -- I prefer negative income taxation because the phase-out would keep the total fiscal cost under control while allowing unemployed people to receive much more than $12,000 p/year.

Even if memory is fading, schools and universities are still teaching them, and they're still normalised. Jewish media reinforces it. Normies don't have any reason to question it, especially the ones who live away from the pests. Any serious questioning of them produces a visceral, angry reaction irl. Despite all the arguments I make against it, I still have this lingering feeling that I'm doing the wrong thing, due to being indoctrinated at school with anti-racist garbage. People go their whole lives without undoing the damage done to them in childhood, let alone acknowledging that their childhood is the root cause.

It would be interesting to see the Liberal "sharp left turn" data. Is it Whites largely involved? Is it an influx of Hispanics and Blacks? Blacks and Hispanics, as a group, have always been Liberal (or more accurately, biased towards their perceived race's party).

Why attempt to minimise it when it's possible to enforce things like a racial majority policy, or something that isn't as literal? Why not cut your losses and remove them from America, so they're not an economic drain? I just think it's sticking your head in the sand -- trying to govern racially different states under one unified state. It costs the U.S. $10,000 per annum to keep the average Black around, and $7,000 to keep the average Hispanic around (http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/11/fiscal-impact-of-whites-blacks-and-hispanics/). That's not even to mention the territory wars that'll take place (land is always valuable). First it'll be the American Southwest; then they'll push their people in other parts. People are far more readily loyal to their race than nation, and all people are greedy for territory.

This won't be the most compelling argument...but I have a really, really strong intuition for this kind of thing and I can just "sense" the progressive narrative on race fading away

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and believed for a long time and that's a problem...but what is really fading is the INTENSITY of emotion, imo. There are a TON of emotions/motivations that go into the anti white hatred stuff, but a big part of it is that elite attitudes absolutely do trickle down into the mainstream. It's not a coincidence at all that black lives matter riots came to an immediate halt the moment that progressive elites realized they actually do more harm than good, and that they got Trump elected.

It's both, but it comes more from white liberals going totally insane in the past decade or so. Check this out: "Take the issue of discrimination as a factor holding back African-American advancement. White liberals are to the left of black Democrats, placing a much stronger emphasis than African-Americans on the role of discrimination and much less emphasis on the importance of individual effort."

Because getting rid of ~40% of the country is impossible outside of ethnic cleansing/mass murder. If I could go to a world where the 1965 immigration act didn't happen I would do so, but attempting to undo it now would not return America to an idealized version of the 1950s. It would result in a much more callous and cruel country. 

There is no way to keep the US free of racial conflict (and not just between whites and blacks, hispanics on the west coast have been ethnically cleansing black neighborhoods for decades now) but you can definitely minimize it. Elite consensus absolutely does trickle down to the people, and a dem nominee who unapologetically rejects the anti white narrative and talks about white people who are hurting with kindness would go a very long way in cooling things down. We CAN all live together in (relative) harmony, but first we have to break the taboo about talking about certain things. 

Example: ... These are the things that sane multiethnic countries throughout history have done and they'd go a long way here

Are you just gonna echo chamber the resident racist or do you want to debate with me on the last paragraph which is the only part where you actually agreed with her?

Okay, so White Liberals are arguably more leftist than Black Democrats, given that they emphasise the role of racial discrimination against Blacks, and seem less concerned with individual effort. I think this could be a correlation argument for the Progressive narrative not fading in intensity? The ideological narrative is so strong here that it has convinced Whites against their racial interest over that of Blacks, when both (millennial) racial groups rate race as their most important personal identifier: (https://imgur.com/a/MWT4uRo). In other words, Whites have been convinced, through mere words (which oppose their racial in-group preference) more convincingly than Black's far more powerful racial in-group bias.

Perhaps it has gone from insanely intense, to only very intense, but this at least shows how insanely powerful the narrative is.

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I don't think this is how leftist whites works. Their outgroup isn't black people, or asians, or Jews, or Muslims. Their outgroup is rural whites; that's who they hate with a visceral, borderline genocidal passion. Compared to white liberals, blacks in my personal experience have much less of a fervid hatred for white people, and it's usually the UMC white liberals who push the blacks to have more hatred for rednecks...

If all you just said was not true...why did that infamous "deplorable" comment, which rallied record amounts of rural voters to get out and vote, have such a profound impact on the 2016 election?