Ask an idiot

I don't believe that any gods exist.

Any questions?

Why do you self-identify as an idiot and why didn't I see you at the last meeting of the Council of Idiots?

There actually is a long story behind that. Maybe some other time.

I was there. You remember that guy that kept making annoying fart noises with his armpits in the back? I had the seat right next to him.

I'm going to roleplay as Mopac, just because I can. Here goes:

Yes, I have a question! Why are you so superstitious? Of course God exists. God is The Ultimate Reality, and The Ultimate Reality, by definition, exists! You deny that The Ultimate Reality exists? That makes you superstitious and delusional! The Oxford dictionary defines God as The Ultimate Reality, and the Oxford dictionary cannot possibly be wrong! So that means of course God exists, because the existence of The Ultimate Reality is undeniable! The atheistic argument is self defeating, because we live in The Ultimate Reality! It cannot be denied! Take note of my pretentious, yet ironically grammatically incorrect, capitalization of The Ultimate Reality in an attempt to make myself look intelligent because I'm ignorant enough to think that because I'm referring to "God" the words must then be capitalized! Worship my incredible genius!

*goes back to eating crayons*

Not bad. I would give you a 6.5/10. Just a few more capitalized letters would have guaranteed you a solid 7/10 rating. You lost points on the Oxford dictionary reference too, Mopac is a Merriam-Webster's man. To us commonfolk the difference may be subtle but wiser minds know better! Decent performance overall.

Actually he uses Oxford. I would know. I've debated the man and have heard his speech about how Oxford is as ironclad factual as the bible itself. But alright.

Just looked at your debate with him and that is the first time I have seen him use the Oxford dictionary that I can recall. Always referenced MW with me

(post 36 www.debateart.com/forum/topics/1416?page=2)

Perhaps he converted at some point? Eh, let's put it at 7.3/10 and call it a day.

I didn't say it in my heart though, I said it with electrical signals in my brain. Common mistake.

It's somewhere in the Apocropha I think. "The idiot says with the electrical signals in his brain that there is no god".

The level of sarcasm in this section just isn't worth it anymore. I'd like to see some truly genuine curious people join this site. 

Do you believe that The Truth exists?

Do you believe The Ultimate Reality exists?

FFS! change the damn record!

Absolute truths exist, yes. Would you like some examples?

Certainly.

Absolute truth (n.) - Something that is objectively true at all times and in all places and cannot be changed no matter the circumstances.

6.67408 × 10-11 m3kg-1 s-2

299 792 458 m / s

I=V/R

F=MA

8.314462618

3.1415926535...

2.71828...

So why do you believe these numbers and formulas are absolute truths?

The short answer that gets to the root of your question would be "evidence".

If you are interested in specifics you will have to pick one.

So you believe that there are absolute truths because you have been convinced that they are a reality? Evidence has proven to you that absolute truths exist?

Convinced by the evidence, yeah. Sounds right to me. Like I said I could go into more detail on a specific one if you are interested.

Would you say that these absolute truths and the evidences that allow you to believe them have a reality that ties them all together?

Interesting you've got G, e, pi and c all in there...  you're on safe ground with e and pi, but sticking your neck out on G and c...

Would you consider 'true' to be a universal constant?

 

What do you mean, you mean reality? I believe reality is real, sure. Most people agree on that.

I don't even know what that would mean. You are starting to sound like Mopac.

$50 says I know where he's going with this. I've been on the Mopac merry-go-round many times. Ultimately, when you pick apart his argument, it comes down to a dictionary being the only piece of so called "proof" for his assertion, and when you get to that point, that's when he starts repeating himself over and over and over, utterly dismissing all logic and reason as if they're invalidated by what the dictionary says.

Yes Keith and I know too, let's watch it play out though.

No interest really. Argumentum ad dictionarium is annoying enough as it is without adding delusional insistence to the equation.

Understandable.

If you all know how it will play out, I won't waste our time then.

I tried to warn you all. What else can I do? 

You have made your choice.

Neither do I - does that make me an atheist?

By definition, yes.