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@Ramshutu
Looking at some of your debates tells a story too.
There is no such thing as a virus.
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@Somebody
Excellent.
If viruses don’t exist please provide an explanation of how illnesses spread that accounts for current viral properties, such as mechanism of transfer and size.
Lets start simple.
Why does washing your hands reduce incidents of cold and flu?
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@Ramshutu
Washing your hands only makes pharmaceutical companies and doctors rich. The soap and detergent chemicals react with the skin causing dermatitis, itchy scalp, dandruff and rashes. The pharmacy company sells both the the cause and cure for dermatitis. Thus, they get rich and keep quiet, hoping that nobody ever gets wise to the scam. By the way, germs don't spread via your hands normally. If you do have a little poop on your hands, then this may cause some trouble to those persons who don't eat appropriate foods. Note - Its only stale poop that is dangerous. That is poop that has been around for a few days. Fresh poop is harmless and can be beneficial if your own internal bacteria aren't sufficiently nourished or active.
Note - There is no relationship between washing hands and flu incidence. The flu is a result of a poor diet and leaky gut syndrome.
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@Somebody
Firstly, the existence of soap and sanitization predates the pharmaceutical industry. You provide no evidence of anything you’re saying here about the pharmaceutical companies and doctors is true. You provide no evidence linking soap usage to dermitisis, and you provide no examples of how you know anything you’re saying is true.
As such, the first part of your posts appears to be simply an unqualified rant of things you’ve just made up. Please provide evidence.
The second part, again is not evidenced: to claim that flu is caused by poor diet must be supported by evidence. Please link the clinical studies that show the direct correlation between quality of diet - and flu occurrence. If you were correct, any basic study conducted should show this, as you have provided no evidence: one must presume you’re making it up.
Importantly, virologists - and individuals who actually care about evidence rather than made up claims - have produced vast amounts of data and evidence to support basic claims about viruses:
1.) You cannot catch a viruses caused illness without some vector that gives it to you from another source. You cannot catch HIV without being without exposure infected blood or body fluids. It is beyond illogical to presume that only people who have had unprotected sex with someone who has HIV has “poor diet.”
2.) infections are massively reduced in hospitals, in the home, in schools, and in every place it has been studied by the introduction of basic sanitation practices - not by improving the diet of those becoming ill.
3.) There is no correlation with virus caused diseases and diet other than well known causative factors - such causal improvements or impacts to your bodies immune function that helps assist or prevent your body fighting infections.
It appears you are simply making your claims up, as all the evidence obviously is against you, and you have provided no positive evidence to support your claim.
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@Somebody
I don't debate with -
A Geodesic Insight
..."Experiments using X-ray diffraction and electron microscopes revealed that this was indeed the case, making it apparent that viruses were predominantly either helical or icosahedral in shape. The former were rod-shaped structures that resembled an ear of corn, the latter polyhedra that approximated the sphere, consisting of 20 triangular faces glued together.".....
It was in 50's that virologists went to Bucky Fuller to better understand the protein shell geometries they were seeing with viruses.
Fuller supplied them with his icosahedral and other frequency based geometric subdivisions of the regular/symmetrical and asymmetrical polyhedra.
To best of my knowledge, the virus protein shell have only the icosahedral related frequencies, not other polyhedra.
Not all viruses have this icosahedral protein shell.
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@Ramshutu
Medical system based information so you can't whinge and whine that its not official and medical system sanctified information.
Common known causes of irritant contact dermatitis include detergents, soaps, disinfectants, metals such as nickel, cement, fragrances or perfumes, cosmetics, and some plants such as mustard, clematis.
Reference for leaky gut syndrome clinical studies showing all the same symptoms as common cold. (flu)
Quote -1.) You cannot catch a viruses caused illness without some vector that gives it to you from another source. You cannot catch HIV without being without exposure infected blood or body fluids. It is beyond illogical to presume that only people who have had unprotected sex with someone who has HIV has “poor diet.”
Reply - The gay life style of late nights, poor diet, excessive alcohol and drugs leads to leaky gut syndrome and bacterial overload. (AIDS)
Note - There such thing as an AIDS or HIV virus. (Medical system verified information.)
Quote - 2.) infections are massively reduced in hospitals, in the home, in schools, and in every place it has been studied by the introduction of basic sanitation practices - not by improving the diet of those becoming ill.
Reply - You are just ranting and raving without any evidence to prove it. Just eat nothing but McDonald's burgers and shakes every day and you will become sick more often then you are well. Thus, diet is everything and sanitation is mostly irrelevant.
Quote - 3.) There is no correlation with virus caused diseases and diet other than well known causative factors - such causal improvements or impacts to your bodies immune function that helps assist or prevent your body fighting infections.
Reply - False assumption. You are assuming that viruses cause disease when I have already shown that its your own internal bacteria which cause disease. Germs are the result of a disease and not the cause of a disease as Antoine Bechamp stated 200 years ago, but nobody listened.
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@mustardness
Its a pretty painting of an assumed virus. I wouldn't validate this as evidence though. Can you provide something a little more substantial?
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@Somebody
Medical system based information so you can't whinge and whine that its not official and medical system sanctified information.Common known causes of irritant contact dermatitis include detergents, soaps, disinfectants, metals such as nickel, cement, fragrances or perfumes, cosmetics, and some plants such as mustard, clematis.
Nothing in this link indicates or implies that any soap or detergent product is deliberately manufactured to produce dermititis. This claim is made up.
Reference for leaky gut syndrome clinical studies showing all the same symptoms as common cold. (flu)
Nothing in this link indicates “leaky gut syndrome” exists, nor argue that it has the same symptoms as cold and flu: nor does the existence of “leaky gut syndrome” mean that illnesses that we can definitively show are caused by viruses aren’t.
This link is mostly unrelated to anything you said, and it looks like you didn’t even read your own link.
Quote -1.) You cannot catch a viruses caused illness without some vector that gives it to you from another source. You cannot catch HIV without being without exposure infected blood or body fluids. It is beyond illogical to presume that only people who have had unprotected sex with someone who has HIV has “poor diet.”
Reply - The gay life style of late nights, poor diet, excessive alcohol and drugs leads to leaky gut syndrome and bacterial overload. (AIDS)
Sure, I await the detailed statistics, mathematical correlations, that indicate a substantial corrletsfion between excessive alcohol and
dris when adjusted for promiscuity - together with your counter examples showing inmumefable cases without demonstrable diseases vectors, and epidemiological spreading consistent with an inherent health limitation rather than proximity to HIV outbreaks (IE - if you drink heavily in an area with high HIV prevelance - is your chances of HIV the same as in a low prevelance area).
This is is of course before I get asking for your causal evidence, and studies into leaky gut that control for all other factor, and control for conditions consistent with spread of viruses.
All this is simply basic information you need to provide in order for what you just said to be anything no more than made up pseudoscientific babble that isn’t true, and can’t be supported.
Note - There such thing as an AIDS or HIV virus. (Medical system verified information.)
Yes there is - this claim is made up.
Quote - 2.) infections are massively reduced in hospitals, in the home, in schools, and in every place it has been studied by the introduction of basic sanitation practices - not by improving the diet of those becoming ill.Reply - You are just ranting and raving without any evidence to prove it. Just eat nothing but McDonald's burgers and shakes every day and you will become sick more often then you are well. Thus, diet is everything and sanitation is mostly irrelevant.
This is all based off multiple centuries of extensive scientific research across the planet. If you say nothing but McDonalds it will affect your health. It will do so in predictable, understandable ways.
Food can affect your health, but this being true does not mean viruses do not exist, or if I drink alcohol, I will get the flu. Some illnesses are caused by diet, some by bacteria, some by viruses.
we know this through study and research.
You are simply making sh*t up.
Quote - 3.) There is no correlation with virus caused diseases and diet other than well known causative factors - such causal improvements or impacts to your bodies immune function that helps assist or prevent your body fighting infections.Reply - False assumption. You are assuming that viruses cause disease when I have already shown that its your own internal bacteria which cause disease. Germs are the result of a disease and not the cause of a disease as Antoine Bechamp stated 200 years ago, but nobody listened.
Could please stop confusing “shown” with “pulled out of your arse and pretended as if it was fact”
I’m not assuming viruses cause some disease - this conclusion is based on research.
We know viruses exist because of experiments, the most basic is the concept of “immunization”. Milk maids who had caught coe pox didn’t catch small pox no matter how good or bad their diet was. Tobacco plants could be given a disease by filtering the sap from a diseased plant that had been filtered (but not from a healthy plant).
No one believes their girlfriend if they said they caugh herpes from “bad diet”.
You're just making stuff up, and have shown no evidence thus far of anything you’ve claimed.
I can ask again - would you like me to e plain what evidence is, and how it works
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@Somebody
Please tell me you don't work in the food service industry.Washing your hands only makes pharmaceutical companies and doctors rich. The soap and detergent chemicals react with the skin causing dermatitis, itchy scalp, dandruff and rashes. The pharmacy company sells both the the cause and cure for dermatitis. Thus, they get rich and keep quiet, hoping that nobody ever gets wise to the scam. By the way, germs don't spread via your hands normally. If you do have a little poop on your hands, then this may cause some trouble to those persons who don't eat appropriate foods. Note - Its only stale poop that is dangerous. That is poop that has been around for a few days. Fresh poop is harmless and can be beneficial if your own internal bacteria aren't sufficiently nourished or active.
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@Stronn
Yeah, I do. Do you want to buy some fresh poop sandwiches? There specially made for people who take antibiotics and therefore have no internal gut flora so they starve to death. But that's OK, as long as the doctor follows standard procedures they won't get into trouble and can blame it on poor genetics or something. Its not the antibiotics that killed them though, I swear as a trained medical expert.
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@Ramshutu
Hi, I just made up this fake news medical report to annoy you further. lol
In the past 3 decades, we have been living with the hypothesis that, “HIV causes AIDS.” HIV, HumanImmunodeficiency Virus is considered as the causative agent of AIDS, Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome;wherein the body's immune system gets damaged opening doors for major infections. However, the 3 Noble prizewinner prestigious scientists including Luc Montagnier (discovered HIV), Kary Mullis (invented PCR test for HIVdetection), and Wangari Maathai, (renowned African environmentalist), along with thousands of other scientists andintellects worked on the other side of the coin to prove back and again that the above said theory is amisconception. Last 35 years have provided immense literature and investigation evidences to firmly conclude thatHIV is not the real cause of AIDS. On the other hand, malnutrition and metabolic syndrome due to drug abuse havebeen pointed as the real convicts. This review article revolves around the same theory for better understanding theHIV-AIDS hypothesis to be fallacious and search for valid causes.
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@Somebody
Unfortunately, this “article” doesn’t appear to be either peer reviewed, and is not really a medical report: it doesn’t actually contain any research - it’s simply an opinion paper that references other information. It looks formal, because it’s part of a broadly discredited publishing group who appear to conduct no peer review, and have been shown to lie about their affiliations and practices.
You seem fixated with fraud in the science industry, but appear not to care or even bother to look up actual instances of fraud in the examples you cite in support.
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@Somebody
And ironically, OMNICD is literally fake news:
Strangely, they make millions from publishing badly cited or crack pot studies with little or no validation.
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@Somebody
As Ramshutu said, OMICS International is a predatory publisher. Many of their journals will accept nearly anything without question or scrutiny as long as you pay their publication fee. The article you cite certainly was not peer-reviewed. It was accepted 3 days after it was submitted! Peer-review typically takes, at a minimum,, several weeks.
Among other deceitful practices, OMICS International claims that reputable researchers are members of its editorial board without their permission and when they, in fact, have nothing to do with OMICS.
As for the paper itself, none of the points it makes on why HIV is not the cause of AIDS is at all convincing. For instance, the fact that HIV tests can have false positives or false negatives in no way implies that HIV does not cause AIDS. The point that we cannot detect the virus, only genetic sequences of the virus, is also irrelevant, since those genetic sequences are unique to HIV.
And beside all that, the author has all the hallmarks of a scam artist. Among other things, he claims to be able to cure diabetes in 72 hours.
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@Ramshutu
Its been estimated that more than 50 % of validated studies are all frauds. lol
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@Somebody
Its a pretty painting of an assumed virus. I wouldn't validate this as evidence though. Can you provide something a little more substantial?
"more substantial" than ..'X-ray diffraction and electron microscopes..'? Are you on prescription medications for mental issues? How many years?
Why you think X-rays and electron microscope microscopes are not "substantial" beyond my understanding of facts and truths.
Have never looked at an X-ray dude? Have you never been to a hostpital to get X-rays? Have you ever been to a dentist to get X-Rays?
A Geodesic Insight
..."Experiments using X-ray diffraction and electron microscopes revealed that this was indeed the case, making it apparent that viruses were predominantly either helical or icosahedral in shape. The former were rod-shaped structures that resembled an ear of corn, the latter polyhedra that approximated the sphere, consisting of 20 triangular faces glued together.".....
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@Somebody
...."In the research arena, modalities such as immunoelectron microscopy, cryo-electron microscopy, and electron tomography have demonstrated how viral structural components fit together, attach to cells, assimilate during replication, and associate with the cellular machinery during replication and egression. These studies provide information for treatment and vaccine strategies.
INTRODUCTION
Electron microscopy (EM) has long been used in the discovery and description of viruses. Organisms smaller than bacteria have been known to exist since the late 19th century (11), but the first EM visualization of a virus came only after the electron microscope was developed. Ernst Ruska, with his mentor Max Knoll, built the first electron microscope in 1931 as the project for his Ph.D. thesis.
Electron microscopy (EM) has long been used in the discovery and description of viruses. Organisms smaller than bacteria have been known to exist since the late 19th century (11), but the first EM visualization of a virus came only after the electron microscope was developed. Ernst Ruska, with his mentor Max Knoll, built the first electron microscope in 1931 as the project for his Ph.D. thesis.
....Eight years later, Ruska and colleagues Kausche and Pfankuch were the first to visualize viruses (tobacco mosaic virus) with the EM (47), and in 1986, Ruska shared the Nobel Prize with Binnig and Rohr, developers of the scanning tunneling electron microscope.
.....Other historical electron microscopic observations have led to the discovery of new viruses.
In 1948, differences between the virus that causes smallpox and the virus that causes chicken pox were demonstrated by EM (62, 92). The first image of poliovirus was taken in 1952 (74), and virus-host relationships began to be studied in the mid-1950s (24, 25). Early virus classification depended heavily on morphology as shown by EM (2, 4, 60), and many of the intestinal viruses were discovered by EM examination of feces after negative staining (32, 46, 54, 96). Cossart et al., in noticing an anomalous reaction while testing normal blood for hepatitis B virus, excised a precipitation band from a gel and, using EM, demonstrated that it contained a very small virus (parvovirus B19) (16). That virus was later determined to be the cause of transient aplastic crisis in patients with sickle cell disease and of “fifth disease,” a childhood exanthem.
Even today, taxonomy books include electron micrographs of viruses in their descriptions (22)."...
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@Somebody
So let’s say everything you just said about studies is true (it’s not - like everything else you’ve said - it’s a grotesque misrepresentation and completely unsupported by what you posted).
Why does that make any of the nonsense you’ve been posting true? That’s not how things work.
Why do you think studies being fraudulent makes the study you cited any more valid? Why does it this make the fact (and it is a fact), that the source you cited is from a fraudulent publisher - not a fact?
You don’t seem to care either about scientific evidence or the validity of your sources. You seem to quote anything, any bogus source from any crackpots, any sources from mainstream science, sources from fraudulent non-science that you claim is science.
Even this 50% claim - comes from the very same scientists you claim are liars and cannot be trusted. All of a sudden you decide that you should trust them?
Some of studies - come from the scientists you claim are liars and cannot be trusted.
Given this, you appear disinterested in what the facts are, and what science is valid, and how you can tell.
You seem solely interested only in what things agree with you.
That’s the approach that is only taken by woo peddling pseudo scientists.
Why does that make any of the nonsense you’ve been posting true? That’s not how things work.
Why do you think studies being fraudulent makes the study you cited any more valid? Why does it this make the fact (and it is a fact), that the source you cited is from a fraudulent publisher - not a fact?
You don’t seem to care either about scientific evidence or the validity of your sources. You seem to quote anything, any bogus source from any crackpots, any sources from mainstream science, sources from fraudulent non-science that you claim is science.
Even this 50% claim - comes from the very same scientists you claim are liars and cannot be trusted. All of a sudden you decide that you should trust them?
Some of studies - come from the scientists you claim are liars and cannot be trusted.
Given this, you appear disinterested in what the facts are, and what science is valid, and how you can tell.
You seem solely interested only in what things agree with you.
That’s the approach that is only taken by woo peddling pseudo scientists.
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@mustardness
The main problem with the pictured object is that all life forms are basically symmetrical. The object in the picture is not symmetrical therefore, the supposed life form would be incapable of replicating. Thus, logic excludes it from being real and is therefore just a manufactured image from a demented scientist who is desperate to get a research grant. Secondly, the object is too fragile. The object looks like a ball of fairy floss and wouldn't last more than 5 seconds in the real world. In nature, when an immobile life form like a plant creates a seed, the seed will be made tough and strong to withstand a hostile environment. Thus, most seeds are built like Sherman Tanks and are almost indestructible. Thirdly, electron microscopes can only see in black and white and have no colour capability. Thus, the object in question is clearly a fraud on 3 counts.
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@Ramshutu
Is the peer review system trustworthy? Answer - definitely not.
Peer Review is universally used to ensure the quality of scientific research, but the process may not be as reliable as people assume. A new study in PLoS One suggests that the recommendations reviewers may not be much more reliable than a coin toss. ... Twenty-eight percent of all reviews recommended rejection.
- Deliberate errors inserted
Thus, all your huffing and puffing about "is it peer reviewed" is meaningless nonsense. Thus, logic is the only way to resolve any issue. All evidence from other parties will be biased and corrupted.
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@Somebody
And, unfortunately you appear to have ignored all the major flaws pointed out with your position. I’m assuming that’s because you have no argument, and your now flitting from position to position.
If you were being honest, logical, sensible, and were not irrationally tied to your position - you would note that I have never knce said that peer review is infallible, that data cannot be faked by individuals, or that everything that has ever happened in a study is true.
Thats not how things work. That’s not how any of this works.
Your issue, is that you’re just being plain crackpot crazy. You’re argument is effectively that because peer review has errors and is not perfect - that I should believe your nonsensical drivel that isn’t supported by any data at all, that hasn’t been review at all by anyone, and hasn’t no evidence to support it.
Not every scientific theory or hypothesis that is in a paper that is peer reviewed is true - but I will say that every valid scientific theory or hypothesis in the last hundred years has appeared in some form of peer review.
While the process is not perfect, it is most certainly far more valid, supported and believable than DEFINITELY fraudulent random bloggers paper, and posts and assertions from some random nut job on the internet - which is mostly what your position is.
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@Ramshutu
The fact is that the germ theory of disease is illogical. It doesn't follow any logical pattern and disobeys many laws of common sense and nature. There is absolutely no incentive for any biologist to disprove germ theory. Disproving germ theory of disease would only result in the scientist getting a kick in the arse by the establishment because it will result in great embarrassment and loss of money, jobs and prestige of the pharmaceutical industry. Idiots like Pasteur and Jenner were glorified as heroes because it enabled pharmaceutical companies, governments and food manufactures to get away with mass murder for hundreds of years.
Note - There is only one human disease which is vitamin deficiency disease. If you have any evidence of viruses then send the evidence to me and I will show you how the information was manufactured and made up. I have worked in a science laboratory and know all the dirty tricks.
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@Somebody
The fact is that the germ theory of disease is illogical.
Any specific examples you care to share as to where you feel it’s illogical? Or are you just asserting without evidence again? Microscopic organisms that infect through a particular pathway (air, food, fluids, stc) and cause disease when they infect a host is not just logical - it explains almost every facet of diseases caused by organisms - it helps predict and model patterns of outbreaks, has helped guide methods of tracing and reducing outbreaks and is much better at helping predict who will get ill next:
Clue: If you have a perfect diet, and have touched the blood of someone with Ebola, you’re probably going to be more at risk of Ebola than If you have a terrible diet and do not
This is a level of explanatory power your nonsensical assertions cannot even come close to approaching.
Clue: If you have a perfect diet, and have touched the blood of someone with Ebola, you’re probably going to be more at risk of Ebola than If you have a terrible diet and do not
This is a level of explanatory power your nonsensical assertions cannot even come close to approaching.
It doesn't follow any logical pattern and disobeys many laws of common sense and nature.
Care to cite examples? Or are you just asserting things again!
There is absolutely no incentive for any biologist to disprove germ theory. Disproving germ theory of disease would only result in the scientist getting a kick in the arse by the establishment because it will result in great embarrassment and loss of money, jobs and prestige of the pharmaceutical industry. Idiots like Pasteur and Jenner were glorified as heroes because it enabled pharmaceutical companies, governments and food manufactures to get away with mass murder for hundreds of years.
Let’s ignore the flagrant lies and dishonesty that your blurting out with no evidence and no support.
Do you know what makes money?
Cures.
Do you know what makes the most money?
Effectivs cures.
If biologist just so happened to discover viruses doesn’t exist, and tested your theory and managed to - say - create a method to cure aids. They’d be billionaires.
Say what you want, but no amount of nonsense conspiracy theories would be able to cover up, say, claiming you had a cure for aids, and injecting yourself with what doctors call HIV crisis, and demonstrate that you are impervious to aids through your particular cure. Same goes for curing HIV by diet, or any number of your whacky claims.
Any one of these crackpots you cite could do this today. And would be billionaires overnight. So would pharmaceutical companies - it’s much simpler and easier to make billions by curing people - rather than maintain a global conspiracy to pretend to cure some people.
Do you know what makes money?
Cures.
Do you know what makes the most money?
Effectivs cures.
If biologist just so happened to discover viruses doesn’t exist, and tested your theory and managed to - say - create a method to cure aids. They’d be billionaires.
Say what you want, but no amount of nonsense conspiracy theories would be able to cover up, say, claiming you had a cure for aids, and injecting yourself with what doctors call HIV crisis, and demonstrate that you are impervious to aids through your particular cure. Same goes for curing HIV by diet, or any number of your whacky claims.
Any one of these crackpots you cite could do this today. And would be billionaires overnight. So would pharmaceutical companies - it’s much simpler and easier to make billions by curing people - rather than maintain a global conspiracy to pretend to cure some people.
Note - There is only one human disease which is vitamin deficiency disease. If you have any evidence of viruses then send the evidence to me and I will show you how the information was manufactured and made up. I have worked in a science laboratory and know all the dirty tricks.
Nah. That approach is nonsense pseudoscience. This is the way all conspiracy theorists, flat earthers, anti vaxxers, and pseudoscientists approach things: anyone can throw out unsupported assertions against legitimate evidence.
Find me data that shows viral and bacterial diseases correlate better to dietary factors than to exposure to the relevant diseases vector.
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@Ramshutu
Quote - Clue: If you have a perfect diet, and have touched the blood of someone with Ebola, you’re probably going to be more at risk of Ebola than If you have a terrible diet and do not
Reply - Ebloa, Parkinson's disease, multiple sclerosis, Zita and polio are all pesticide poisoning issues. Nervous system breakdown is a result of fluorine, lead, mercury and chlorine based chemicals which attack the nervous system. That's how they kill insects.
Most pesticides work by affecting the nervous system of the insect. The pesticide interrupts the information being sent by neurotransmitters in the synapses. The chemical produced by the body used to send information through the synapses is called acetycholine. An enzyme called cholinesterase binds with acetycholine and allows muscles to rest.
In a body that is working normally, the acetycholine sends messages to the muscles through the synapses. Cholinesterase keeps the amount of acetycholine at an acceptable level, which controls the stimulation. When a pesticide is introduced at a lethal dosage for a particular body, the cholinesterase is affected, keeping it from binding with the acetycholine. When this happens, the muscles are over-stimulated which will lead to paralysis and death.
Quote - If biologist just so happened to discover viruses doesn’t exist, and tested your theory and managed to - say - create a method to cure aids. They’d be billionaires.
No, they would get their arse kicked and spend the rest of their lives as unemployed. Pharmaceutical companies need sick people, its what makes them rich. Thus, you don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg. Thus, they will never let go of germ theory no matter how many billions of people die because of it. Disease is completely avoidable all you need to do is avoid dairy, grain, sugar and alcohol. In pristine nature, animals never get sick. Sickness is purely a result of agricultural products which disrupt the digestive system and cause leaky gut syndrome. I never get sick because I eat a paleo diet. I don't get headaches regardless of the amount of stress or reading I do. Diseases like cancer, AIDS, arthritis, flu, diabetes, Alzheimer's disease are all just blockages, leaky gut and inflammation caused by bad diet and lack of vitamins.
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@Somebody
I didn’t ask you what you felt the causes of Ebola were - I am explaining that Ebola outbreaks, prevalence and epidemiology is completely incompatible with a diet based explanation.
You may assert Ebola is caused by “poor diet”, or “mercury”, or any number of causative features: but that’s not supported by any facts at all, or even any basic rudimentary science:
Diets are poor around the world, many people have toxins in their system, mercury, and whatever other ingestion of bad food that you claim cause Ebola happens everywhere. You will find people all around the world, in China, the America’s, and other regions of Africa with those same diet issues....
And yet, you don’t see random outbreaks of Ebola all over the world, do you? Like say, type 2 diabetes, or heart disease?
You see Ebola outbreaks only in places where there is already Ebola, and in places where there is already Ebola - you only see it in people who were exposed to other people with Ebola.
Smallpox is another example. People have caught small pox for all of recorded history. Rich people with good diets caught it. Poor people with bad diets caught it. In fact, it seems your chances of catching small pox was related to being exposed to someone else with smallpox - not your diet. The only group of people who NEVER caught it were people who had already caught cow pox.
That seems completely unrelated to diet, no?
I’m sure you’ll pull wild claims you cannot possibly support that all the the people who milked cows had great diets - but that’s just a wild nonsensical assertion based on no evidence.
Do you know who magically stopped catching smallpox over time? Was it the people who improves their diets? Or was it people who were vaccinated?
Yep - you guessed it - it was the vaccinated people.
People still caught dysentery, polio, colds, flu, cancer, Malaria, and many, many others, but they stopped catching small pox - after they were vaccinated.
How was small pox eradicated? Was it because the WHO changed everyone’s diets? Or was it because they went through a well resources vaccination program that aggressively targeted small pox outbreaks.
You guessed it! It wasn’t diet!!
What prevents people catching Malaria most effectively: changing your diet to cut out toxins: or a Mosquito net?
It’s the latter.
This pattern repeats over every bacterial or virus based disease that exists. In fact part of the reason we know they are germ based diseases.
We know scurvy is diet related - because everyone with a diet poor in vitamin C can catches - they don’t have to simply be around people with scurvy - the same is true for any other illness that is diet related.
Sitting behind a keyboard asserting that diseases are caused by diet in no way deals with the combined wealth of empirical data that completely refutes your entire position and spells out exactly why your position makes no logical sense at all in any way.
I don’t think even you believe it - as I guarantee you that you wouldn’t put your money where your mouth is and expose yourself to some deadly viral disease.
You may assert Ebola is caused by “poor diet”, or “mercury”, or any number of causative features: but that’s not supported by any facts at all, or even any basic rudimentary science:
Diets are poor around the world, many people have toxins in their system, mercury, and whatever other ingestion of bad food that you claim cause Ebola happens everywhere. You will find people all around the world, in China, the America’s, and other regions of Africa with those same diet issues....
And yet, you don’t see random outbreaks of Ebola all over the world, do you? Like say, type 2 diabetes, or heart disease?
You see Ebola outbreaks only in places where there is already Ebola, and in places where there is already Ebola - you only see it in people who were exposed to other people with Ebola.
Smallpox is another example. People have caught small pox for all of recorded history. Rich people with good diets caught it. Poor people with bad diets caught it. In fact, it seems your chances of catching small pox was related to being exposed to someone else with smallpox - not your diet. The only group of people who NEVER caught it were people who had already caught cow pox.
That seems completely unrelated to diet, no?
I’m sure you’ll pull wild claims you cannot possibly support that all the the people who milked cows had great diets - but that’s just a wild nonsensical assertion based on no evidence.
Do you know who magically stopped catching smallpox over time? Was it the people who improves their diets? Or was it people who were vaccinated?
Yep - you guessed it - it was the vaccinated people.
People still caught dysentery, polio, colds, flu, cancer, Malaria, and many, many others, but they stopped catching small pox - after they were vaccinated.
How was small pox eradicated? Was it because the WHO changed everyone’s diets? Or was it because they went through a well resources vaccination program that aggressively targeted small pox outbreaks.
You guessed it! It wasn’t diet!!
What prevents people catching Malaria most effectively: changing your diet to cut out toxins: or a Mosquito net?
It’s the latter.
This pattern repeats over every bacterial or virus based disease that exists. In fact part of the reason we know they are germ based diseases.
We know scurvy is diet related - because everyone with a diet poor in vitamin C can catches - they don’t have to simply be around people with scurvy - the same is true for any other illness that is diet related.
Sitting behind a keyboard asserting that diseases are caused by diet in no way deals with the combined wealth of empirical data that completely refutes your entire position and spells out exactly why your position makes no logical sense at all in any way.
I don’t think even you believe it - as I guarantee you that you wouldn’t put your money where your mouth is and expose yourself to some deadly viral disease.
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@Somebody
No, they would get their arse kicked and spend the rest of their lives as unemployed. Pharmaceutical companies need sick people, its what makes them rich. Thus, you don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg. Thus, they will never let go of germ theory no matter how many billions of people die because of it. Disease is completely avoidable all you need to do is avoid dairy, grain, sugar and alcohol. In pristine nature, animals never get sick. Sickness is purely a result of agricultural products which disrupt the digestive system and cause leaky gut syndrome. I never get sick because I eat a paleo diet. I don't get headaches regardless of the amount of stress or reading I do. Diseases like cancer, AIDS, arthritis, flu, diabetes, Alzheimer's disease are all just blockages, leaky gut and inflammation caused by bad diet and lack of vitamins.
Yeah, yeah: assertion, assertion, assertion - no evidence no evidence / assertion,
Bottom line - get a random HIV test, take someone diagnosed with HIV, and inject their blood into you. Take another HIV test later, confirm you have HIV - then cure it with diet. (Or just don’t catch HIV)
Have a news crew follow you around while you did it.
You would become a billionaire in a few weeks.
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@Ramshutu
Despite receiving clear evidence of children being poisoned by government pesticide trucks in 1947, you still insist that DDT is not responsible for polio, ebola and zita 'viral' diseases. Thus, you have been brainwashed by government propaganda that vaccination prevents disease.
All you need to do to test if I am right or wrong is to go on a Paleo diet for a few weeks and you will find that you feel much better and have no nasal blockages or headaches. All disease names are just made up nonsense because there is only one disease which is vitamin deficiency disease. Even pesticide poisoning results in vitamin blockages (iodine) which prevents internal nervous system messages from being sent. Iodine deficiency is the cause of the vast majority of diseases because iodine or vitamin B is the key and most important vitamin.
HIV
The above website states that -
Someone who doesn’t have HIV
You can only get HIV from someone who is already infected with HIV.
Touching someone who has HIV
HIV can’t survive outside of the body so you won’t get HIV from touching someone, hugging them or shaking their hand.
Sweat, tears, urine or faeces of someone who has HIV
There is no HIV in an infected person’s sweat, tears, urine or faeces.
So what the hell is HIV or AIDS? Its definitely not a virus because a virus is contagious according to medical theory. Yet, doctors talk about viral loading when referring to HIV or AIDS. Thus, the medical system is completely neurotic and psychotic when dealing with this disease. The information is confused and many double standards apply. Thus, they don't understand what AIDS really is. Or do they? Well, of course, they do know, but they are in the business of making money out of fools and suckers. That's why they charge outrageous fees for doing nothing. I once went to a heart specialist who charged me $700.00 for a half hour consultation. In retrospect, I concluded that I was sucker punched by the system because I definitely knew more than the doctor about how the human body functions. Lesson - Don't be a sucker to this corrupt medical system.
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@Somebody
You offered no evidence that Ebola, or any of those diseases are caused by DDT poisoning. You showed evidence that DDT poisoning exists - which is largely irrelevant and quite frankly a nonsensical red herring.
Like everything else you’ve said - these claims appear made up, pulled our of your ass without any evidence or Lodi .
As I explained, if people over a broad area got sick, or people who ate food from a specific area - without any other correlating factor - your asserted claims may not by wholly illogical - but this isn’t what happens.
As I pointed, none of your illnesses fit the pattern you say caused them. They fit the pattern of being caused by being caught from someone or something that also has the disease.
Looking at diseases as a whole - and patterns of outbreaks over human history refutes your position, and while you may feel better simply ignoring the fact your main argument is comprehensively destroyed by just looking at the patterns who has caught one virus illness - the fact remains that your insane, asserted claims presented without evidence are clearly refuted by actual data.
Now, I don’t know if you’re asking seriously how to catch HIV - I’m not sure if you’re simply ignorant, or plain stupid here, because quite frankly if you don’t even understand or know how this basic information about different mechanisms of viral transfer, and a specific form of viral transfer of a virus you’ve been talking about for an entire thread - there’s not much I can do to help you.
I suspect that this argument is because you read this page - and felt there was some way it supported your position, so threw it out here, no matter how incoherent or contradictory it actually is
Like everything else you’ve said - these claims appear made up, pulled our of your ass without any evidence or Lodi .
As I explained, if people over a broad area got sick, or people who ate food from a specific area - without any other correlating factor - your asserted claims may not by wholly illogical - but this isn’t what happens.
As I pointed, none of your illnesses fit the pattern you say caused them. They fit the pattern of being caused by being caught from someone or something that also has the disease.
Looking at diseases as a whole - and patterns of outbreaks over human history refutes your position, and while you may feel better simply ignoring the fact your main argument is comprehensively destroyed by just looking at the patterns who has caught one virus illness - the fact remains that your insane, asserted claims presented without evidence are clearly refuted by actual data.
Now, I don’t know if you’re asking seriously how to catch HIV - I’m not sure if you’re simply ignorant, or plain stupid here, because quite frankly if you don’t even understand or know how this basic information about different mechanisms of viral transfer, and a specific form of viral transfer of a virus you’ve been talking about for an entire thread - there’s not much I can do to help you.
I suspect that this argument is because you read this page - and felt there was some way it supported your position, so threw it out here, no matter how incoherent or contradictory it actually is
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@Ramshutu
Small pox
Small pox is just a vitamin deficiency problem caused by leaky gut syndrome and a predominantly grain based diet. Grain contains very little vitamins that the human body can use and causes inflammation of the gut lining resulting in leaky gut syndrome. In early times, crop failure often occurred due to volcanic activity and reduced sunlight. Thus, people relied on stored grain for survival. Thus, a diet which consists mostly of grain will soon lead to a diabetic condition and organ failure. In early days, they didn't understand vitamin deficiency or why lumps and bruise marks would appear on their skin. When you are vitamin deficient the body can't heal itself and any small bruise will remain dark until vitamin C can be obtained. Thus, ignorance of vitamins led idiots like Jenner and Pasteur to come up with all types of nonsense theories about invisible germs being responsible. This nonsense is still carried on to this very day because germ theory makes a lot of devious and evil people rich. (or more commonly known as doctors)
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@Somebody
No it’s not. The history of the diseases and patterns of outbreak prove it’s not. Also, if smallpox were dietary in nature - it would still exist.