I'll update my reads from whats been going on this day phase:
Vader- Town- role and behavior, he has felt genuine from the get go, I feel like he is genuinely a townie trying to solve the game, I don't feel like I am noticing any of his normal scum tells, and usually I feel like vader is kind of easy to read as scum. I am not seeing it this game.
Pie- Town- I am still clearing pie based on his "need to get lynched before mylo" thing, I have a couple theories about what he means by that, all of them mean he isn't mafia. And honestly I just don't see what strategy is as scum. Also behaviorally he is town, he is clearing people off of behavior rather than role confirmation, which is generally a town tell. In his argument with ADOL, you can tell ADOL is going at it from a numbers POV where pie is clearing people based on behavior. I am not as convinced as him that banana is town behaviorally, she's generally been pretty inactive since she claimed, however I get the logic behind "Why would she do this as scum".
Whiteflame- Town- I have him as town behaviorally, I don't see what his motivation for arguing for me against that2 would be if he was scum, if he was scum, I imagine he'd be happy with any mislynch, and this entire scenario would benefit him by just acting indifferent. That alongside my earlier read still being consistent, he has shared a lot of similar thought processes with me about the game and it's players, so knowing I am town, I tend to town read him for that as well.
Mharman- Null - I don't really know where to put mharman. I feel like he is usually pretty easy to mark off as town, and he feels inherently different this game. I am not feeling the mharman that usually jumps in with great ituition and reads, who feels like he can solve the game single handedly that we usually get with town mharman. That and I find it wierd that he called the earth lynch retarded after agreeing that earth was probably scum at the end of dp1. Also to me that lynch just kind of felt obvious. 1. We were running out of time 2. We virtually had a CC with two characters claiming the be tsars 3. Both their character names were virtually identical 4. Earth in general was playing pretty badly, from lack of effort all the way to self voting. I just feel like it's kind of a weird shade to throw on people who were on that lynch, and makes me wonder if he was trying to paint people in a bad light so he could use it against them for potential mislynches, when ultimately the lynch wasn't even really that bad. I've seen much worse lynches than that get defended at least.
Cerulean- Null- I don't like the inactivity, but I understand he is playing on multiple websites at the moment. The protective role soft claim gives him enough town cred for me that I won't put him in the scum pile for now, particularly because I don't know we can trust ADOL yet, and for all I know there is only one protective role. That said I need to see a considerable amount of effort come from this player slot before I feel comfortable passing them off as town.
Banana- Slight Scum- I did town read her yesterday for her early claim of being a scum role, but her being in my results is naturally gonna make me question her. That and like I said, she's kind of dis-appeared after claiming when I outed my results. She hasn't really offered reads or anything helpful, and I don't think I feel comfortable giving her a pass for what could potentially have just been a ballsy move.
ADOL- Flip flopping- I am flip flopping because I can see his behavior being town and scum. If he is genuinely town, the fact that he is looking at this from an analytical standpoint is understandable, but I do largely feel like he is ignoring behavior in a lot of his reads. I do find it convenient he seems to be willing to lynch me over anyone else in the results as well, when even statistically speaking I feel like it's less likely that I could be scum here based on several factors I've pointed out with my claim and the huge amount of stupid risk involved in claiming the way I did. Under the presumption I am scum he has to jump through more hoops and climb more ladders to believe that than he does by simply accepting that my results are accurate and there is scum among the people in my results. I am flip flopping also because this is his second game. I generally view ADOL ass a pretty smart individual and can understand the logic behind his arguments, but mafia delves into more than just straight logic, it also bears into trying to find liars, dissecting the reasons behind them doing things, and trying to figure out and solve things on a behavioral level. I don't expect him to know how to do that after playing just one game previously, but without any sort of attempt at that, it kind of leaves me wondering if he is just scum and he is going for damage control.
That2User- Has been openly in my scum pile since dp1, even with me giving her the passes I have on her character and use of the word "Assassination" still, so much of they way she claimed and gave unnecessary information was a bit baffling. Having just hosted a game where she was scum, I noticed a lot of similarities in her playstyle, her lackadaisical approach, almost uncaring sounding when she was answering questions. She has turned up the passion a bit more this day phase, but the dis-association initially felt just like her approach in Serial Killer Mafia. The next point is she never really outright defended herself or explained why she answered the way she did when she was initially claiming, though she did explain why she thought anastasia was assassinated, she only explained it after she had been asked why that was her first thought multiple times. The rest is still kind of a mystery. She sort of explains coming into the day phase that she felt pressured but she didn't come off that way, which is weird, she came off as cold and calculative in her responses initially, where as normally when town is being accused of something and they know they are innocent I would have expected her reaction to be a bit more blaring. It seems more like she is aware of that coming into this day phase when she is all of a sudden amping up her pressure on myself. Like I said, I get and understand wanting to confirm a dreamer, but it's also weird that she doesn't seem to even be considering the dream results could be accurate until proven. As mafia this reaction makes more sense, as if you know you are on a lot of people's scum radar's, and are then further implicated by results, you want to prolong your life as long as possible to maximize night action utility, and take down as many as you can before you go. Again with us already being down a mislynch, there being a potential for 3 scum, and pie having to be lynched before mylo, chances are we could be in mylo after I get mischopped here. Than all she has to do at this point is say "Looks like lunas results are confirmed" and try to convince yall to vote bannana or ADOL for the win. As whiteflame and others have pointed out there is 0 behavior analysis to go along with her intention to lynch me, so I have no clue why if she was town she wouldn't be equally dubious of ADOL and Banana, instead hyper focusing on the hope that mafia faked dreamer, and pulled the craziest gambit in mafia history. Her motivations don't make sense as town here and thus she is my strongest scum read among the results.
