Why is Black Magic considered bad?

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Ever since Christians started hunt on witches, there was this idea that black magic is somehow bad because it causes harm.

However, I find it difficult to understand such a position. For example, guns cause harm, yet guns are necessary for self defense. Sure, bad people can use guns for bad purposes, but that doesnt mean we should all just get rid of all guns, because thats unrealistic.

Same principle works with black magic. It can be used for self defense, to destroy or control the ones who want to harm you. Plus, many spells in black magic arent meant to cause harm to others. Some are just love spells or money spells powered by offerings to powerful beings. Some are transformation spells. Some are spells to control dreams. I dont really see why would it be considered bad. Like, considering it bad wont make it go away, and there is no actual way to protect from black magic anyway if black magic user has greater powers.
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Same principle works with black magic. It can be used for self defense, to destroy or control the ones who want to harm you. Plus, many spells in black magic arent meant to cause harm to others. Some are just love spells or money spells powered by offerings to powerful beings. Some are transformation spells. Some are spells to control dreams. I dont really see why would it be considered bad. Like, considering it bad wont make it go away, and there is no actual way to protect from black magic anyway if black magic user has greater powers.

Black magic is widely considered "bad" because it's traditionally viewed as the use of magic or supernatural powers for evil and selfish purposes, often associated with harm, manipulation, and negative outcomes.

It was introduced by white people using blacks as subjects.
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Black magic is widely considered "bad" because it's traditionally viewed as the use of magic or supernatural powers for evil and selfish purposes, often associated with harm, manipulation, and negative outcomes.
Well, sure, some people use it for evil. I dont think all people use it just to benefit themselves. For example, there is the Summon Evil Guardian spell which is used to make anyone who wants you harm to feel scared and back away. Its a pure self defense spell.
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There ain't no such thing as magic
FULL STOP 

Quija boards on the other hand.
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There ain't no such thing as magic
FULL STOP 

Quija boards on the other hand.
Jesus too used magic which he called miracles.
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There ain't no such thing as magic
I really hate people who dont believe in magic. They are worse than atheists.
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Jesus too used magic which he called miracles.
He also said anyone can do what he did as long as there is faith. Like, really, you cant be a Christian and not believe in magic.

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Jesus too used magic which he called miracles.
He also said anyone can do what he did as long as there is faith. Like, really, you cant be a Christian and not believe in magic.
You ain't lyin

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Magic is not necessarily evil in its nature,  but we've developed a history of thinking black is the equivalent of evil. Bad association, that's all.
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The reaction to powerless was bothering you could be to seek power through the occult. However you could also just submit yourself fully and completely to God and be his vessel. Instead of fighting powerlessness just enjoy it and submit completely to Jesus Christ.
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The reaction to powerless was bothering you could be to seek power through the occult.
I do like power.
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I cant follow Jesus because 1. He doesnt grant wishes, 2. We kinda disagree on core issues.
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Magic is not necessarily evil in its nature,  but we've developed a history of thinking black is the equivalent of evil. Bad association, that's all.
Yeah, you get it. Its about the intention, not about type of magic used.

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Jesus too used magic which he called miracles.
He also said anyone can do what he did as long as there is faith. Like, really, you cant be a Christian and not believe in magic
So you love Christians.
I really hate people who dont believe in magic. They are worse than atheists.

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So you love Christians
I love some Christians, not all.

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So you love Christians
I love some Christians, not all.
But they all believe in magic and Jesus.

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But they all believe in magic and Jesus.
Yes, but they hate my satanism, black magic and countless other sins I have.

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But they all believe in magic and Jesus.
Yes, but they hate my satanism, black magic and countless other sins I have.
So it is you source and type of magic they hate. Learn from Jesus good magic.

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So it is you source and type of magic they hate. Learn from Jesus good magic.
I am not that much interested in healing magic, and thats very much all what Jesus had. Also, I already know how to turn water into wine without magic, but yeah, it would be cool to have magic to make alcohol.

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Black Magic is only considered bad to Calvinists. The only region of America that burnt witches was New England(founded by Puritans)

Magic/Superstition is generally accepted in Catholic/Lutheran cultures. Sure there is bad luck and good luck, but the construction of superstition and ritual in of itself wasn't demonized.
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Hey BK.

Black magic is just more of the same hairy fairy nonsense, but might involve a lot of nudity and sex if you go to the right parties.

Though my advice would be, when you finally pluck up courage to engage the services of a working girl, go black...You might find that it's magic.


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Black magic is just more of the same hairy fairy nonsense
Magic was present in all cultures throughout history. I dont see why person wouldnt believe in magic. My life greatly improved after I started doing magic.

but might involve a lot of nudity and sex if you go to the right parties.
Parties? I dont do such nonsense.

Though my advice would be, when you finally pluck up courage to engage the services of a working girl, go black...You might find that it's magic.
As if I have money to waste on cum sluts.
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Black Magic is only considered bad to Calvinists. The only region of America that burnt witches was New England(founded by Puritans)
In America, it was different, but Europe burned witches for a long time.

Magic/Superstition is generally accepted in Catholic/Lutheran cultures. Sure there is bad luck and good luck, but the construction of superstition and ritual in of itself wasn't demonized.
Well, plenty of black magic is demonized today too. Google wont show sites which contain black magic rituals, but somehow google play app store is filled with bunch of black magic apps. AI wont answer when you ask it to give you some black magic ritual. So my source for black magic are yandex search, apps from play store, and many books which happen to contain plenty of black magic.
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  SOOOOOOOO,  You do ghost
I mean like, you believe in ghost.
Thats cool .
But.
But.
There's more isn't  there ?
RA? 

One  doesn't   just stop believe shit likd A God and a few  Ghosts amd then just stop there. 
Before ya said you've  perform bloody umm. 
 rituals
Oh and you.fancy yourself as a magician if you will. 

See What I'm  getting at here is. 
Can i get of you, 
 a list..
A list .of the weird and whacky over the fucking top shit that you belive in. 
Like eg 
You believe in.
Then

Jesus. 
3 ghost.s.
 Crystal powered Dream catchers.
The Pope.
The BIG FEET DUDE.
Arch friggen angels.
I mean. Angles.
LUCK.
Leprechauns
SO ON . 
MORD CRAP YOU BELIEVE IN , AND SO ON. 

Sse if i a have a list it will be easier  to reference you. 
Thus making thing easier , soooooo i can get to sgraightup making making fun of you. 
I wanna get straight to being real rude and threatening to ya. 
Cheers man.

Hey and RA. .
Hey RA? 
Have a great weekend mate. 

YOU DUMB FUCKING WANKER




Good game. 
Good game.
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Can i get of you, 
 a list..
A list .of the weird and whacky over the fucking top shit that you belive in
Well, I believe in all Gods, ghosts, vampires, Baba Yaga, Hollowgasts, demons, blood magic, fire magic, mind control magic, love magic, summoning the dead, I believe that world was created by Gods which defy logical laws, I believe that drawing symbols on paper and keeping paper inside house works to create magic as well. I really like folding paper 4 times to make this cute magic paper where two sides are short and two sides are long, kinda like rectangle.
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BECAUSE IT KILLED HARRY'S PARENTS
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BECAUSE IT KILLED HARRY'S PARENTS
Poor example using a fictional story to back a fiction.
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Taking note.?

He does Gods ,
ghosts ,vampires 
Scrolls back up.
Demons ,
blood andddd fire magic.
Black mage 
He does umm , Symbols ,
so thats symbols on paper. 
You knkow, like ya basic spells. 
Fucking Mind / bloody body contrl l. 
Anddddddddd this sick mutha fucker also adds 
He believes in ya basic A4 paper.

His a Monster.   


The question is.
WHAT ELSE IS RA. ? 

What else is it THAT YOU STRONGLY BELIEVE IN BUT CAN NEVERRRRRRR EVERRRRR  PROVE...?
??


You'd expect to see 
I believe in a animal thats half rabbit and half kitten . 
( thats something nice and not at all important. 
Instead of  like.
I believe in gods ghosts,  yogurt,  headless horsemen.  Treasure., witchcraft. And satan.

Oh ,  And paper..
A4 fucking paper.  
White with lines.
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He does Gods ,
ghosts ,vampires 
Scrolls back up.
Demons ,
blood andddd fire magic.
Black mage 
He does umm , Symbols ,
so thats symbols on paper. 
You knkow, like ya basic spells. 
Fucking Mind / bloody body contrl l. 
Well 😅

He believes in ya basic A4 paper.
Not basic. Folded 2 to 4 times with magical drawings on it.

His a Monster.
Uh

The question is.
WHAT ELSE IS RA. ?
Ra is Sun God, symbol of rebirth.

What else is it THAT YOU STRONGLY BELIEVE IN BUT CAN NEVERRRRRRR EVERRRRR  PROVE...?
??
I believe that I am God and I just need to regain my powers.

I believe in a animal thats half rabbit and half kitten . 
Thats... thats sick

Instead of  like.
I believe in gods ghosts,  yogurt,  headless horsemen.  Treasure., witchcraft. And satan.
How can you not believe in those?

Oh ,  And paper..
A4 fucking paper.  
White with lines
A magical paper.
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Jesus too used magic which he called miracles.
There is not a single miracle performed by Jesus using magic. All miracles follow natural law with applied sufficient faith to command nature to follow its own rules; a skill he has in abundance, such as commanding a spirit departing the body to return to it, such as will happen with resurrection. All who resurrect [virtually everyone, including sons of perdition who will not inherit any kingdom of glory for their wickedness] do so by this priesthood power of healing faith.