The Sopranos Mafia DP3

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Jesus Christ, how lucky was mafia?
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Wylted used Bodyguard on Whiteflame. And Bullish uses Strongman to kill Wylted. Apparently that means both Wylted and Whiteflame die instead of just Whiteflame lmao.
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How tf?-
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Leaving this thread open for the next hour or so before flip.

Endgame will be posted tonight.

This is going to be a fun endgame post

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Now you see why I’ve been yelling bastard mod lol 
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This is going to be a fun endgame post
fun for me, not for the
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Wylted used Bodyguard on Whiteflame. And Bullish uses Strongman to kill Wylted. Apparently that means both Wylted and Whiteflame die instead of just Whiteflame lmao.
WTF. I never would have believed that. 
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WTF. I never would have believed that. 
I couldn’t believe it!
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Jesus Christ, how lucky was mafia?
Idk how lucky it is to have a godfather role that literally protects against nothing, just to get tracked np1 cuz we can only use a strongman or a ninja against two protective roles and two investigative roles, with no roleblocker. Imagine getting caught when your in most people's town piles dp1 on results? Would either have been protected against, confirming town players, or caught on results. Wasted hours of time researching this theme just to be caught in the gayest way possible. Some bastard modding and poor town decisions resulted in the town loss here, but this heavily favored town. 
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can we all agree this game does not count
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Idk how lucky it is to have a godfather role that literally protects against nothing, just to get tracked np1 cuz we can only use a strongman or a ninja against two protective roles and two investigative roles, with no roleblocker. Imagine getting caught when your in most people's town piles dp1 on results? Would either have been protected against, confirming town players, or caught on results. Wasted hours of time researching this theme just to be caught in the gayest way possible. Some bastard modding and poor town decisions resulted in the town loss here, but this heavily favored town. 
The balance was clearly problematic, but damn man, there’s so much that does not make sense from what played out.

Also, yeah, it was a gutread that got you this time. Just had an inkling something was up.
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The balance was clearly problematic, but damn man, there’s so much that does not make sense from what played out.

Also, yeah, it was a gutread that got you this time. Just had an inkling something was up.

To be clear, you said you tracked me because I posted mostly null reads on page 4 of dp1? I mean I clearly stated that the reads weren't going to be fleshed out at that point. 4 pages in... Yeah I would have done the exact same thing as town. And something about me waffling on moozer? I was fully ready to lynch moozer, he got hammered before it was neccesary. I just think those are very "I could have just as easily been town there reasons".

Regardless, I opted to use the ninja that night, but had an argument with bullish who thought the strongman was a better use because "rIsK vS rEwArD". You know me, I am all for taking risks, but I still don't understand what the reward was there. I am not used to coming at odds with mafia partner on decisions, and bullish is very strong willed so I just caved and let him direct the night actions, but for the record, I argued that we should ninja np1 which makes the fact that I got caught on results even more frustrating. 
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That said, what was the point of my role? Literally to not get caught on the dreamer? How fvcking gay is that lol. Town had a bodyguard and a doctor, and a dreamer plus a tracker. 4 town power roles, and we could only counter literally one of them with a strongman or a ninja. We had to choose one or the other. Even if we had tried to go for that2 who apparently protected herself, the kill would have been protected against confirming two town players. IDK, I firmly believe mafia should be able to counter everything town can do. It's extremely frustrating for town to just get caught on results or POE. A combination of questionable mod decisions and poor town night action and day phase decisions saved bullish the win here,  but ultimately, was not a good game. 
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Also idk why that2 was lynched, she was clearly softing Dr melfi. I knew she was the doctor from the second she softed lol
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To be clear, you said you tracked me because I posted mostly null reads on page 4 of dp1? I mean I clearly stated that the reads weren't going to be fleshed out at that point. 4 pages in... Yeah I would have done the exact same thing as town. And something about me waffling on moozer? I was fully ready to lynch moozer, he got hammered before it was neccesary. I just think those are very "I could have just as easily been town there reasons".
Those reads were a minor element. I thought it was possible that you were just that unsure. Moozer was the bigger issue, since you said you were willing to vote him, but waited in the wings to do so. I didn’t get the impression that you were just coming in late to it, though that may have been true. To be clear, though, I’d just thrown out most of my logical reads when Moozer flipped town and I didn’t have good reason to sus anyone  who had voted him, so picking the person who said they were onboard and made me question him at all made the most sense to me.

Regardless, I opted to use the ninja that night, but had an argument with bullish who thought the strongman was a better use because "rIsK vS rEwArD". You know me, I am all for taking risks, but I still don't understand what the reward was there. I am not used to coming at odds with mafia partner on decisions, and bullish is very strong willed so I just caved and let him direct the night actions, but for the record, I argued that we should ninja np1 which makes the fact that I got caught on results even more frustrating. 
Too bad, man. That would’ve given you a lot of cover, shame you didn’t go with it.
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Those reads were a minor element. I thought it was possible that you were just that unsure. Moozer was the bigger issue, since you said you were willing to vote him, but waited in the wings to do so. I didn’t get the impression that you were just coming in late to it, though that may have been true. 
The vote train on moozer happened pretty fast, I was pressuring earth at the time, but why vote if its not needed lol. But still odd considering I had probably the best case against moozer pointing out that he didn't make sense as vanilla, I had written a pretty large post about it too. Definitely didn't feel like I was acting unsure on that one. 

Too bad, man. That would’ve given you a lot of cover, shame you didn’t go with it.
Tell that to bullish lol. He is super strong willed, I argued and made my case for doing it. But like I said, even if we had ninjad the balance was so bad that That2 or wylted would have been confirmed with no counter to that. Balance was whack. 
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The vote train on moozer happened pretty fast, I was pressuring earth at the time, but why vote if its not needed lol. But still odd considering I had probably the best case against moozer pointing out that he didn't make sense as vanilla, I had written a pretty large post about it too. Definitely didn't feel like I was acting unsure on that one. 
I’ll admit my reason for sussing you was weak and it sounds like it wasn’t accurate, but again, didn’t have a lot to go on for anyone. Bullish or Earth were my other considerations, so 66% chance of hitting scum if I chose randomly anyway.
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can we all agree this game does not count
Oh it counts