Serial Killer Mafia DP1

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Official Vote Count:

Vader- 2/6-bullish, Vader
Savant- 1/6- Wylted
Austin- 1/6- savant

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So, with all that in mind, I actually have a pretty narrow PoE pool of you, Savant, and Austin, which I'm fairly confident in. 
Fair enough. I'm less certain of That2 even with their claim, but apart from that, my attention is mainly on those two as well.

I'll just go ahead and give my character since we have limited time this DP and it doesn't seem like we're honing in on a clear lynch. Like I said earlier, I think it's possible to intuit the role from my character claim, but I'll say now that it should not matter anyway given how my role works.

I'm Aileen Wuornos. As I said early in the DP, I didn't know this person before I heard about her associated movie, Monster.
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I'm Aileen Wuornos. As I said early in the DP, I didn't know this person before I heard about her associated movie, Monster.
... You're shitting me. That's literally the exact person that Savant softed.

Well, that makes this an easy 50/50 I guess. Any thoughts, Savant?

VTL Savant 
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I'm actually not sure which of them is more likely to be lying here. It's weird that WF saw Savant's softclaim and didn't immediately pick up on who he was softing. 
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This is wild LMAO
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... You're shitting me. That's literally the exact person that Savant softed.
Yeah, that's part of the reason I decided it's better just to give my claim. Didn't have a solid bead on Savant knowing my character.
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I kind of want to get fullclaims from both of you now. 
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I'm actually not sure which of them is more likely to be lying here. It's weird that WF saw Savant's softclaim and didn't immediately pick up on who he was softing. 
I did say I only just recently spotted his soft claim. Kind of assumed there could be someone else who fit that description, but I haven't had the time to research it since.
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I kind of want to get fullclaims from both of you now. 
I'd rather avoid that until Savant claims his character, but we can go from there.
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Kind of assumed there could be someone else who fit that description, but I haven't had the time to research it since.
If Savant claims anyone else, I think I'm going to have a hard time believing it tbh. I want his full claim as soon as he gets back online, and it better be a hell of a good one. 
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If Savant claims anyone else, I think I'm going to have a hard time believing it tbh. I want his full claim as soon as he gets back online, and it better be a hell of a good one. 
Understandable. If he CCs me, I’m absolutely good with full claiming to settle this.
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I thought he was sorting Aileen Warnhous. I will say she didn't exactly commit sex crimes unless you consider prostitution a sex crime. Her murders were mostly financially motivated and. She does appear to have some delusions as well.
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I will say she didn't exactly commit sex crimes unless you consider prostitution a sex crime.
That's the thing, though. Savant didn't say that his character committed sex crimes, he said that "rape was involved". To me, that very clearly pointed to Wuornos, as she claimed that all her kills were done in self-defense against men who were trying to rape her. 
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Savant said rape was involved Aileen Warnhous wouldn't fit. There was a few female serial killers who were part of teams that did participate in rape. Warnhous was unique because she wasn't part of a duo. Female serial killers are very rare and in most cases where you find them, they are part of a duo because ultimately women are soulless creatures that will just go along with any random shit.
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That's fair that she did claim they all raped her, but she was a prostitute and they paid for sex so the claim is silly. I am not sure lunatic is basing his opinion of SKs on the narratives they put out themselves
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Savant said rape was involved Aileen Warnhous wouldn't fit. There was a few female serial killers who were part of teams that did participate in rape.
It's the specific way Savant said that rape "was involved" without specifying that his character committed rape that pointed straight at Wuornos for me. That specific choice of wording feels very, very deliberate. 
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Aileen Warnhous was something I really went down the conspiracy pipeline with. I was a liberal when it happened btw and some of the conspiracy touched on politics. 

Her name i felt was a type of hint. 

Aileen Warnhous to me seemed to hint at "alien warn us".

Watching her on the stand she was talking about exposing everyone and named Republican politicians including Jeb Bush and she referred to her execution several times as "going up to the mother ship"

So I felt like maybe this bitch is an alien and her people the Bush and Cheney families for example kind of left her out to dry and she was going to expose this whole alien conspiracy and tell us the truth about George Bush finally.

I wish I was joking guys but I also was zooming in on her face. Her features change a ton when she is angry and looks very lizard like. I think the good visa were all scrubbed from the internet when censorship was kicked into overdrive but I will see if I can scrap anything together to give you a crum of the stupid rabbit hole I was in.
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Official Vote Count:

Vader- 2/6-bullish, Vader
Savant- 2/6- Wylted, Casey
Austin- 1/6- savant

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I'm Myra Hindley. I wrote coded messages to Ian Brady, hence I am the messanger. I can message one other player at night. I assisted Ian Brady in sexual assault against children, though the way my role PM was written, I don't think I raped the children myself.
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That's pretty fucking obscure savant
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All of the alien warn us videos are scrubbed from the internet. I found dead YouTube links so yes liberals literally scrubbed some really fun rabbit hole on Aileen Warnhous

Seriously when you guys find cool shit just preserve it offline because no matter who wears the boot it is coming again and it will censor shit that is absolutely retarded to censor. My god why wasn't I archiving shit back then.
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I'm Myra Hindley. I wrote coded messages to Ian Brady, hence I am the messanger. I can message one other player at night. I assisted Ian Brady in sexual assault against children, though the way my role PM was written, I don't think I raped the children myself.
Yep, that's an odd one, since both people were involved in these murders. I did see some info about coded messages between the two of them, though that's a strange justification for the Messenger. Will need to think on this one.

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Ctrl+F doesn't reveal anything about 'code' or 'message' on the wiki page. It's also sus that you're claiming a member of a duo to begin with. Is Ian Brady your partner?

I'm down to lynch Savant. 
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Actually, I still want to wait for Austin to show up and give his claim, but let's lynch Savant after. 
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Ctrl+F doesn't reveal anything about 'code' or 'message' on the wiki page.
To be fair, I found this on the Moors Murderers and it does mention coded messages and as a key to finding a final victim:

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Ctrl+F doesn't reveal anything about 'code' or 'message' on the wiki page.
I didn't write my role PM word for word, and I'll confess I don't know anything about Myra Hindley besides what Luna told me. At this point, you know everything I do.
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Alright, fair enough then. Still weird that Savant would be a member of a pair like that, however. I've kind of been operating under the assumption that that's what's going on with Pie tbh. I would really like to hear his input. 
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Alright, fair enough then. Still weird that Savant would be a member of a pair like that, however. I've kind of been operating under the assumption that that's what's going on with Pie tbh. I would really like to hear his input. 
Yep, I flagged that, too.

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I think I'd prefer a full claim unless you have really good reason not to provide one.
Yes, I have a good reason not to provide one. Not going to say what it is right now.
So, was your good reason just that your role is technically confirmable? 
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member of a pair like that
Hence, if I was scum, I would probably fake claim. Which is WIFOM logic, but then there are so many serial killers to fake claim who are less obscure than Myra Hindley. Not saying it's impossible that a scum player would brazenly claim their actual character, but they're probably less likely to when the theme split is supposedly obvious to them.