Serial Killer Mafia DP1

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Forgot to tag Vader himself
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Let's all name serial Killers that were actually good people. I will go first

1. Christopher Dorner (no cooling off period but still an all around good guy)
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Official Vote Count:

Vader- 4/6- Casey, that2user, wylted, whiteflame
Savant- 2/6- Bullish, vader
Austin- 1/6- savant


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I'm signalling intent to put Vader at L-1
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VTL Vader
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Vader- 5/6- Casey, that2user, wylted, whiteflame, bullish
Savant- 1/6- vader
Austin- 1/6- savant


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@Vader
You wanna vote for yourself so we can verify you?
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VTL Vader
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Drunk. Will read tmrw
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Vader- 6/6- Casey, that2user, wylted, whiteflame, bullish, Vader
Savant- 1/6- vader
Austin- 1/6- savant

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Should not have stayed up this late, but now Vader is confirmed. Going to go crash, see y'all sometime tomorrow. Or, today, rather.
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Vader- 5/6- that2user, wylted, whiteflame, bullish, Vader
Savant- 1/6- vader
Austin- 1/6- savant

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I don't like how he decides to claim early though. Is there any other reason besides psuedo confirmation?
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Vader- 4/6- that2user, whiteflame, bullish, Vader
Savant- 1/6- vader
Austin- 1/6- savant


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Vader- 3/6- whiteflame, bullish, Vader
Savant- 1/6- vader
Austin- 1/6- savant

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OK, so now we've got confirmation. In terms of other additions since my last reads were posted, I'm good with letting Austin just confirm his role as he says he can, so I don't feel the need to push for additional information. Savant said yesterday that he'd post a set of reads but has only posted a couple, so I'd like to get more from him. That2 responded and backed off of Bullish, gave their character claim and then posted a vote on Vader to test his role, none of which really shifts my perspective all that much. That2 might be null, but that would still set them in my sights for this DP.

So I'm good with getting more information out of Savant and That2 at this point. Since we have less from Savant, that's where my vote is going:

VTL Savant

I think I'd prefer a full claim unless you have really good reason not to provide one.
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I feel uncomfortable continually piggy backing off of whiteflame but whatever

unvote VTL SAVANT
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Alright now that I'm sober I'm going to reread the DP
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My role talks about giving women rides and such as well. Interesting. I feel like Wylted talking about the theme could be honestly right tbh
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That2's posts are a bit scattershot tbh and don't have true overall merit but I get some of the justifications for it as well.

I feel like Casey butting heads with Wylted signals town behavior from Casey. I also know Wylted was bitching about how well Luna knew the theme of the last game so maybe he decided to be a master at serial killers for the theme analysis and in that case could be town, well seems town.


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What are you doing?
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@whiteflame
I think I'd prefer a full claim unless you have really good reason not to provide one.
Yes, I have a good reason not to provide one. Not going to say what it is right now.
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Yes, I have a good reason not to provide one. Not going to say what it is right now.
Well, you’re going to need to give us something, whether that’s a partial claim or a decent softclaim. The lack of activity isn’t helping us.
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@whiteflame
I'm role confirmable. Claiming my role now doesn't help. I've been less active in the past few games, so idk why it's being seen as alignment indicative now.
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@whiteflame
Well, you’re going to need to give us something, whether that’s a partial claim or a decent softclaim.
To be fair, Savant has already done both of those things. I'm 99% confident I know who he is (or who he's picked as his claim). 
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To be fair, Savant has already done both of those things. I'm 99% confident I know who he is (or who he's picked as his claim). 
I just noticed the previous softclaim, don’t think I see a partial claim, but fair enough. Can’t say I know who it is, but my research this game has been limited so far.
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@Savant
I'm role confirmable. Claiming my role now doesn't help. I've been less active in the past few games, so idk why it's being seen as alignment indicative now.
I didn’t say it was alignment indicative, so I’m not sure where you’re getting that. My read on you was null, not scum. But as Casey pointed out, you did give a softclaim earlier, so I’ll accept that for now.

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I’d still like to get more insight into your reads before the DP ends.
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I guess I viewed his softclaim as being a partial claim, but it was enough for me to figure out who he was softing. I'm okay with lynching Savant just so that we have a lynch today, but I'm not sure if he's our best option. Actually, I'm going to go through the list.

  1. Whiteflame - very weak softclaim in retrospect, imo
  2. Me - Obviously town
  3. Austin - Ed Gein seems like it would be a pretty bold claim for scum even after the previous softs, but could still be fake. Waiting to hear his claim
  4. Bullish - softed John Wayne Gacy, probably town based on behavior imo
  5. ILikePie5 (1) - Good twin
  6. ILikePie5 (2) - Evil twin. No fr though, I feel like both are probably town, though I do find the idea that one is a 3P that wins independently to be interesting - it would give Pie a backup way to win in case he failed to meet his wincon.
  7. Vader - towniest player here. No way he YOLO'ed Ted Bundy of all people just like that. Justification also makes way too much sense. 
  8. Savant - late to softclaim, but his character is fairly prominent. Does stand out for being female, but if the split is men vs women like Bullish suggested, then it would be a very risky claim - if Savant's partner died, it would out him as well.
  9. Wylted - Town. Mainly vibes, but the way he's acting in this game just feels very different from the last one. 
  10. That2User - early soft, was definitely planning to claim Ridgway. Makes it hard for me to believe he's scum. 
So, with all that in mind, I actually have a pretty narrow PoE pool of you, Savant, and Austin, which I'm fairly confident in.