Castlevania Mafia DP1

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Rough readslist:

Townread:

Savant
Vader (I'll fight on this, Miller claims are usually town and even if you don't buy it the way he *handled* the claim was towny)

Townlean:

Wylted
That2 (somewhat confident on this, would be higher but I don't have experience with her)
Pie

Slight town:

Barney

Not towny:

Casey
Luna (the theme analysis is good but it feels like a substitute for more substantial behavioral reads which I  know town!Luna is capable of making, want to see more)

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I like how pie seems to be picking up on the same stuff as me. If he is thinking like me than that makes him lean town. 

Who is left?
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VTL Casey

Their posting today is mostly short snippets of commentary; normally I'd call it null, but this has been an unusually aggressive DP1 in terms of pressure and I feel decent in a lot of my townreads, so I'm comfortable staying here for now.

Forgot to mention this early, but my only experience with Castlevania is playing the original NES game, so theme is going to be fairly unfamiliar. I will say that judging from my character, I don't think the themesplit is as immediately obvious as the one that I was thinking could be the case.
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That's a good point about lunatic. Is he leaning on thematic analysis because it gives him subject matter to post about while he avoids the harder task of behavioral analysis. 

We know theme analysis is usually worthless anyway. Although to be fair whiteflame is a straight shooter it might be easy to get into his head if somebody knows the theme well
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I like how pie seems to be picking up on the same stuff as me. If he is thinking like me than that makes him lean town. 

Who is left?
I have him leantown mostly for meta, awareness could be a decent reason as well since after briefly backreading the interaction I feel like the progression from looking at Savant, to checking a comment, to "catching" out a slip a few minutes later, reads as  natural.

Thoughts on Casey/Luna?
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Here is where I am at

Lean town

Pie
That2
Austin
Vader

Null

Barney
Casey

Lean scum

2. Savant
3. Lunatic

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I would be willing to assist with a Casey, Luna or savant lynch at the moment. We are approaching 24 hours remaining and I feel like if we don't start all sharing our reads we won't be able to coalesce around a lynch given how slow the DP feels
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@WyIted
That's a good point about lunatic. Is he leaning on thematic analysis because it gives him subject matter to post about while he avoids the harder task of behavioral analysis. 

We know theme analysis is usually worthless anyway. Although to be fair whiteflame is a straight shooter it might be easy to get into his head if somebody knows the theme well
I don't think I've seen theme analysis genuinely lead to a correct lynch in quite a few games ever since the community collectively decided that this was boring and gave better fakeclaim options.

Luna not giving behavioral reads is definitely ooc for him. I just pulled up his most  recent town game (excluding Debate Mafia, where he was pretty checked out in general) and there was definitely a greater effort to read people socially;  I wouldn't call his theme analysis scummy, given that I can see him legitimately being excited  to be able to share it, but I am looking for more especially in view of the other people I'm townreading rn.

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You wrote all of that instead of just asking “hey lunatic, what are your reads”? 
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We know theme analysis is usually worthless anyway.
How do you know theme analysis is worthless btw?
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Because I suck at it.
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What is your role?
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I feel like Barney usually has a lot of fluff in his games recently as town from what I've seen. It's when he flies under the radar and hops on wagons when he tends to be scummy fmpov. But he is aware as scum he tries to do a lot so idk?
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Idk why I pinged wylted but sure i guess
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I’ll post reads later when I’m not on my phone.
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Let’s go after Casey. What had she done to move the game forward?

VTL Casey

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Im down

Unvote VTL casey
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I am Maria Renard. I am NOT claiming my role right now. 
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Yeah, I'll admit, I haven't been as active as I feel I should be, which is why I was planning to post more detailed thoughts after getting home from work. But give me a chance to actually live up to that after getting off work okay? 
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Who do you want to lynch? 

We aren't making much progress. I mean my scum pool is narrowed to you Barney lunatic and savant. That's too large of a scum pool for me. How can I eliminate somebody from it?
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That's fair

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Other than that, his posts have felt very fluffy, he's posting a lot but also I really didn't have any impression of his posts until I specifically reread him in isolation.
Barney posting a lot of fluff during DP1 is pretty typical of him from what I can tell. I'd say that's NAI. 
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Who do you want to lynch?
As much as I think that lynching the Miller is a lazy policy (and I do feel that way), I do think it's usually an acceptable option if we don't have a clearly better one by the end of day one. I do have some townreads, but no clear scumreads, and not enough strong townreads to feel good about lynching anyone in particular. With that in mind, I don't hate the idea of lynching Vader. Aside from him, I feel like choosing anyone to lynch is a bit of a crapshoot. 
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We don't have to lynch anyone but I always strive to narrow my scum pool. 

Looking forward to your detailed reads when you get off of work.
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Could we have Owen hydra with that2 if they are gonna be this inactive?
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Could we have Owen hydra with that2 if they are gonna be this inactive?
I’ll look into it, should be able to make that happen.

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1. Pie - Male
2. Savant - Male
3. Lunatic - Male
4. Austin - Female
5. Vader - Hector (Male) - Miller
6. Barney - Male
7. Casey - Maria Renard
8. That2 - Annette (Female)
9. WyIted - Male

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Votes:

Casey (2/5): Austin, Pie

Sarcasm still runs in the Belmont blood. Trevor would be proud.
-Alucard (from Castlevania: Nocturne S2)
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I feel like Barney usually has a lot of fluff in his games recently as town from what I've seen. It's when he flies under the radar and hops on wagons when he tends to be scummy fmpov. But he is aware as scum he tries to do a lot so idk?
I swear, the best compliment I ever got in this game was someone complaining that they couldn't behaviorally deduce which side I was on (I got the impression they believed in obeying some step by step rule list for how to behave with each role).

The fact is, a lot of my behavior will simply be based on my scheduling.
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Hold on. Annette is literally black. Why did lunatic say only one black character exists?