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Does anyone want to come forward with an example of a time they legitimately scum slipped as scum and got called out on it? Because in my experience that has never happened.
I personally have legitimately scum slipped and been caught. Also I have done it, caught myself and nobody noticed so it happens to me. Maybe you are immune to making mistakes
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@WyIted
No, it means Vader submitted a post before I did but I didn't see it until after I hit post.
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@WyIted
Let me think damn it. Rushing into things is what fucks us.

My initial feeling is that it's probably the latter and that's only because we always tend to pick up these little inconsistencies with Savant and he ends up turning town and we look stupid and I think we are falling in the trap. However Pie has some good points about his behavior but I have a tough time seeing it's scum implication. Plus he said his affil is confirmable so if it's some bullshit then we can lynch him later
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We are on day 2 and the DP is moving slow as fuck I don't think anyone is rushing anything
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It also doesn't help that some of our biggest poster and just kinda AWOL and have made 2 posts, I kinda want to hear from them a bit. Besides base reads.
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Looking at the DP and looking at previous DP1's, I also kind of have an FoS on Pie. Him pushing for info isn't like him besides in the last game where it actually benefitted. Even then his behavior has been kind of different from what is normally. Idk it seems a bit more fluff and then some analysis versus looking at everyone
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WyIted said that and then voted for that2. I was saying that that2 low posting was not alignment indicative.

Also I will be confirmed later, so I'm not saying anything about my role today.
That doesn’t make sense though. Cause being a noob =/= not scum
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@Savant
Almost every game, someone sees Jesus in a piece of toast. These "scum slips" don't disproportionately catch scum, in fact scum is far more likely to be careful with their wording to avoid such accusations. Every game, people (mostly Pie) expect scum to accidentally say "oh yeah I'm scum" or "I 100% know this guy is town" and then they twist some vaguely written post to mean that. If it's ever worked in the past, it was luck. I can pretty confidently say that I've never scum slipped, though I've been accused of it as both affiliations.
I’m pretty sure your first game as scum, you got caught because of a scum slip.

Does anyone want to come forward with an example of a time they legitimately scum slipped as scum and got called out on it? Because in my experience that has never happened.
It’s happened more often than you would expect
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Looking at the DP and looking at previous DP1's, I also kind of have an FoS on Pie. Him pushing for info isn't like him besides in the last game where it actually benefitted. Even then his behavior has been kind of different from what is normally. Idk it seems a bit more fluff and then some analysis versus looking at everyone
I’ve actually done this in other games. And there’s really not much to look at so far cause of low activity. If anything, I’m increasing it
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Is your affiliation confirmable?
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a tride and true scum slip
R/boneappletea
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I personally don’t think savant scum slipped but this exchange is leading to some good exchanges and activity so I’m about it.

Unvote btw
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I’m pretty sure your first game as scum, you got caught because of a scum slip.
I was literally just gonna say this, and then he got Counter claimed by a doctor, if that’s not a scum slip what is
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@ILikePie5
I said "in this case that2 is just a noob." As in that's why they weren't posting. I wasn't saying it was impossible for them to be scum.

Is your affiliation confirmable?
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I was literally just gonna say this, and then he got Counter claimed by a doctor, if that’s not a scum slip what is
No, in this case scum slip is where the scum accidentally says something like "I'm scum" or "I know x person is town." That's what I'm being accused of now. Not a counterclaim. You're smart enough to know the difference.
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Fair and noted
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Business major, not an english major
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Yeah, after reading through this discussion on my break, I still side with Savant. I don't think he's lying when he says that he was just try to say that That2 low posting was merely NAI; in fact, that's how I myself read it as well.

I'm at work right now, will post more later, but Vader and Luna come off as pretty towny to me so far. 
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@Savant
I said "in this case that2 is just a noob." As in that's why they weren't posting. I wasn't saying it was impossible for them to be scum.

Is your affiliation confirmable?
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Fair enough.

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Are you scum? Why or why not?
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No because I am black and because whiteflame is woke so he can't make black people scum. Plus my role is confirmable and I have never seen scum with it . I can confirm it basically anytime I feel like prior to mylo.
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Are you scum?
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Why are you refusing to answer?
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Are you scum?
ITS MAAM. ITS MAAM

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@Savant
No, it means Vader submitted a post before I did but I didn't see it until after I hit post.
Happens to me all the time in this game; that or I just overlook a post.

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Hmmm… a few ugly male characters come to kind and none of them are particularly good characters. Unless your from nocturne which I don’t know a ton about yet
Pretty sure he's from the original. Unsure if he shows up in Nocturne (I haven't watched it yet, but I might watch some of it later this week).

Also (to be clear I'm not fake claiming this, just throwing it out there because it amuses me)...
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I don't really see the scum slip in what's Savant's saying; the way I interpreted it was that he found this behavior NAI in this particular instance because noobs tend to lurk regardless of alignment; noting something as not being scum indicative is distinct from calling that behavior town.

His response to it was very towny - scum!Savant doesn't handle pressure well, and the way he shifted questioning to Pie feels very much like legitimately annoyed town. That's aside from the role soft, which I'll buy for now
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Pie catching that is somewhat towny, mostly off meta - as scum I don't think he's ever pushed these kind of perspective slips, while he does it habitually as town. The actual reasoning itself is meh, it's pushing off an inconsistency in a way that could come from either alignment.
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We are almost 48 hours in. Who are we lynching. If savant is scum than that2 is probably town. Vader should be lynched for policy reasons but is probably town. I am liking the effort from Austin. I think if savant is saying he can be town confirmed than he should state how now so we can look at other people.
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Barney has exactly one towny post and it's:

Given that mafia wins by killing the most intelligent/active people, I really like where this is going.

I know I've made statements to this effect before, but I really think a good KPI to inform lynches would simply be "anti-town." This would be a mix of factors such as inactivity, lying, stupidity, and in general behaving as a bastard.

And yes, by this metric I would already be on the list for my DP1 fluff posts (just not next on the chopping block, since check-ins which don't advance the game are still check-ins for activity)..
The lack  of self-awareness in admitting he's not playing particularly townily doesn't feel like it comes from scum.

Other than that, his posts have felt very fluffy, he's posting a lot but also I really didn't have any impression of his posts until I specifically reread him in isolation.