Castlevania Mafia DP1

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Will catch up more thoroughly tomorrow, just got buried in coursework

On a quick skim, That2 seems towny, response to pressure reads well.

Wylted feels like he's in town meta with aggression, but I haven't seen him as scum in a while.

I think Savant not knowing about That2's past experience is probs a slight townslip, if he was in scum chat with one of the more experienced players they probably would have informed him. Not a strong read, he could have just posted without knowing but him doubling down on it feels real.

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I was trying to not read the PM during DP1... Ah, male and ugly.
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1. Pie - Male
2. Savant - Male
3. Lunatic - Male
4. Austin - Female
5. Vader - Hector (Male) - Miller
6. Barney - Male
7. Casey - Female
8. That2 - Annette (Female)
9. WyIted - Male


Okay so we’ve limited fake claims somewhat at the very least.
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I doubt it will be this simple, but is anyone a vampire?
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@WyIted
What's your justification for why you're a good guy? You've mentioned you're black, so I'm going to stereotype you.
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I assume he's an uncle tom
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I doubt it will be this simple, but is anyone a vampire?
Not a fan of this question, as there is a pretty prominent (likely power role) protagonist that is a vampire. Hopefully that person won’t answer this question
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 Ah, male and ugly.
Hmmm… a few ugly male characters come to kind and none of them are particularly good characters. Unless your from nocturne which I don’t know a ton about yet
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Odd that he thought That2 was a noob because he hadn’t played with her, yet said nothing last game about Bullish being a noob. It’s a weird assumption to make
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Thoughts on above?
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Didn't think much of it tbh
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Odd that he thought That2 was a noob because he hadn’t played with her, yet said nothing last game about Bullish being a noob. It’s a weird assumption to make
Eh, I'm not sure that really means anything here. Savant only brought up That2's supposed noob status because she hadn't said anything yet at that point. 
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Votes:

Savant (1/5): Pie
Barney (1/5):  Luna
That2 (1/5): WyIted

"It's a cruel world. Maybe we do all deserve to die. But maybe we could be better, too"
-The Captain (Season 3 of Castlevania)

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Eh, I'm not sure that really means anything here. Savant only brought up That2's supposed noob status because she hadn't said anything yet at that point. 
What does not posting have to do with being a noob?
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Wait Post 69 implies Savant knows That2 is town cause Wylted said he believes scum always have a low poster and Savant said that’s not the case here.
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I thought my vote was already on savant but yes was trying to give him a chance to respond when I pointed that out 

Unvote VTL savant
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Savant (2/5): WyIted, Pie
Barney (1/5):  Luna

Trevor Belmont: I don't know any of you. But that doesn't matter, does it? My family - the family you demonized and excommunicated - has fought and died through generations for this country. We do this thing for Wallachia and her people. We don't have to know you all. We do it anyway. And it's not the dying that frightens us. It's never having stood up and fought for you. I am Trevor Belmont, of the House of Belmont, and dying has never frightened me.
-Trevor Belmont (Season 1 of Castlevania)

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Ehh don't know what to make tbh. It is pretty weird and I pointed it out but this makes it damning. I hate putting FoS on Savant cuz I feel like I do it every game and he turns town.
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Wait Post 69 implies Savant knows That2 is town cause Wylted said he believes scum always have a low poster and Savant said that’s not the case here.
Great catch. Now I am heavily FoS on Savant but I still want to reread his interactions to see if there was a clarity issue before we pressure him
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Wait Post 69 implies Savant knows That2 is town cause Wylted said he believes scum always have a low poster and Savant said that’s not the case here.
WyIted said that and then voted for that2. I was saying that that2 low posting was not alignment indicative.

Also I will be confirmed later, so I'm not saying anything about my role today.
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Unless it is affiliation confirmed it really doesn't mean anything. I'm still reading the phase
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I think pressure was a bad word  because it wasn't agressive. Maybe I would say like a slight push but it wasn't pressure. I think I'm just a cluttered mess lol
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@Vader
Unless it is affiliation confirmed it really doesn't mean anything.
Clearly it does, since you were about to "pressure" me for a claim.


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Ok I read 169 and it seems pretty damning but to play devils advocate, I think maybe their interpretation was that the low activity was based on noobiness, and not scum play, so it can still implicate scum. But yeah that post is definetly not good but i don't think it's a tride and true scum slip
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@Vader
Take a stand. Jesus Christ. Obviously both conclusions you are trying to make here can't work. Which do you think is more likely?
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it seems pretty damning
Almost every game, someone sees Jesus in a piece of toast. These "scum slips" don't disproportionately catch scum, in fact scum is far more likely to be careful with their wording to avoid such accusations. Every game, people (mostly Pie) expect scum to accidentally say "oh yeah I'm scum" or "I 100% know this guy is town" and then they twist some vaguely written post to mean that. If it's ever worked in the past, it was luck. I can pretty confidently say that I've never scum slipped, though I've been accused of it as both affiliations.

Does anyone want to come forward with an example of a time they legitimately scum slipped as scum and got called out on it? Because in my experience that has never happened.
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I haven't seen That2 play in a mafia game in a while so I don't have any strong behavior analysis but the char claim and reads feel town. The only game I remember them as scum is where I copped them guilty one time and lynched them so my basis is low. But the analysis seems to have substantial depth to not be just blank thoughts
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Is that a role claim?