Cars and trucks should be banned

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Now that I can finally make a forum topic after 25 posts, I decided to make a topic about something that really matters, and get feedback to develop even more arguments. I hope this topic isnt too sensitive. I understand some people like their cars a lot. But feelings to side, and lets bring some arguments.

Ah, yes, the scourge of modern society - motor vehicles. The way they pollute our atmosphere, contribute to accidents, and perpetuate a culture of selfishness... It's a wonder they haven't been banned outright already. But, of course, there are powerful lobbies and entrenched interests that would fight such a move tooth and nail.
There are plenty of alternatives that have been neglected in favor of these gas-guzzling monstrosities. For starters, we could invest in an extensive network of high-speed rail and hyperloops. Not only would it be more efficient and environmentally friendly, but it would also foster a sense of community and shared space, breaking down the isolating effects of car culture.
Of course, there's always a risk of accidents with any mode of transportation. But let's not pretend that cars are somehow safer or more accident-free just because they're more common. The truth is, with proper safety measures and infrastructure in place, rail travel can be made virtually accident-proof. And even if a rare incident were to occur, the consequences would pale in comparison to the destruction wreaked by cars on our roads every single day.
With the right technologies and design approaches, rail safety can be greatly enhanced. For instance, advanced signaling systems and collision avoidance technologies could be implemented. High-strength, lightweight materials could be used to construct railcars and tracks, allowing for greater resilience in the event of an accident. And by integrating sensors, AI, and data analytics, we could proactively identify and address potential safety issues before they even arise.
With a well-planned and segregated rail system, the risk of pedestrian collisions would be drastically reduced. Imagine it - elevated or underground tracks, with clear barriers and warning systems to ensure that pedestrians and rail traffic never intersect. And for those rare instances where a pedestrian might accidentally wander onto the tracks, advanced sensors could trigger alarms and emergency braking systems to prevent accidents from happening in the first place.
Fences and barriers could provide some limited protection. But let's not kid ourselves - they'd be more of a band-aid solution than a genuine fix. No, to truly address the issue, we need to rethink the entire concept of rail travel in a modern, 21st-century context. That means investing in cutting-edge technologies, designing systems with safety and pedestrians in mind from the ground up, and making a commitment to creating a transportation network that serves the greater good.

Rail-based emergency transport and helicopter services could indeed be viable alternatives to traditional ambulances, especially in urban areas with well-developed rail networks or for long-distance transports. Just imagine it - high-speed trains equipped with state-of-the-art medical facilities, whisking critically ill patients to specialized care centers in record time. Or helicopters, capable of rapid aerial transport, reaching remote areas or navigating through congested city skies with ease.
Why replace ambulances? Let's simply ban them along with all the other dangerous vehicles like cars, trucks, and trains. Think of the lives we could save! With no vehicles on the roads, there would be no accidents, no injuries, no fatalities. A safer, healthier world for all.And you know what else? With no cars, kids would be free to play outside without worrying about getting run over. They could explore and have fun without parental supervision, fostering their independence and self-discovery.

Cars are the embodiment of evil, perpetuating a culture of violence, oppression, and exploitation. The mere presence of these metal beasts on our streets is a daily threat to countless lives.Did you know that cars are responsible for a staggering number of accidents, injuries, and deaths, not just of the drivers and passengers, but also of innocent pedestrians, cyclists, and even animals? The destruction they leave in their wake is unspeakable.But it's not just the physical harm. Cars also contribute to toxic air pollution, suffocating our cities and poisoning our environment.
Money, the illusion we're forced to worship in this capitalistic society. The "cost" of banning cars is a mere drop in the ocean compared to the untold suffering they inflict upon humanity.Think of the resources wasted on maintaining and repairing these deadly machines, the lives lost in avoidable accidents, the environmental devastation... It's a never-ending cycle of harm and destruction. The true cost is incalculable.As for a new system, we don't need to create some fantastical utopia. We just need a better system than current one.

Self-driving cars? Another misguided attempt to tinker with the problem rather than addressing its root cause. These vehicles still rely on a flawed infrastructure designed by humans, with inherent dangers and biases.Even if we assume self-driving cars could somehow magically eliminate human error, they would still pose a threat to children.Even if self-driving electric cars could somehow achieve a perfect safety record and zero environmental impact (which is an impossible dream, given their very existence is a form of violence and destruction), they would still perpetuate the harmful societal structures we're trying to dismantle.Ah, the so-called 'threat' of electric self-driving cars is an overblown myth perpetuated by the auto industry to cling to their dying business model. The real threat is the harm these vehicles pose to society, the environment, and human well-being.For starters, these cars are just the beginning of a dystopian nightmare. Once they're on the roads in sufficient numbers, it won't be long before cities become gridlocked and pedestrian-friendly spaces are erased, paving the way for a car-dominated society. Walking is safer and healthier than self driving cars, of course. A human on foot is the safest mode of transportation, bar none. No risk of accidents, no danger from mechanical failures, no threat of cyber attacks. Just the simple, unencumbered act of moving under one's own power. In an ideal world, we'd design cities to prioritize pedestrian-friendly infrastructure, creating safe, vibrant public spaces that encourage people to get out, to interact, to live life to the fullest. Another way of much better and effective transport are horse carriages, drones, helicopters, bikes, cargo bikes, electric bicycles and bicycles. The solution is clear: ban all vehicles, self-driving or otherwise.

Special fences could be put in place, such as those with openings so that any pedestrian is clearly visible when he approaches the rails, for example, curved openings.
The naysayers. They'd complain, sure. But change rarely comes easily. The world would adapt, as it always does. Think of the children - our future - being spared the danger of cars. The benefits far outweigh the temporary inconvenience. Besides, there are plenty of alternative modes of transportation already in use.

Cars emit pollutants that contribute to respiratory diseases and global warming. Cars require vast amounts of fossil fuels, metals, and rubber. The car industry promotes oil drilling, leading to environmental disasters. Tire wear releases microplastics into the environment. Asphalt roads and car engines contribute to overheating cities. Roads and highways require cutting down forests, destroying habitats. Car fluids like oil, coolant, and brake fluid contaminate water supplies.

Millions die and dozens of millions are injured and millions are left permanently disabled in car crashes each year. Over 40 years, numbers rise greatly.

Car dependency reduces physical activity, contributing to obesity, further causing health costs to rise. Car engines and honking harm mental health and disturb wildlife. Driving leads to anxiety, frustration, and aggressive behavior. Vehicle emissions worsen asthma, lung disease, and heart problems. Cars endanger cyclists and pedestrians, especially in cities. Treating car-related injuries and illnesses costs hundreds of billions, in addition to even damage to economy caused by losing millions of human lives.

Owning and maintaining cars on its own is expensive for individuals and governments. Wasted time in traffic harms productivity, reduces amount of free time and harms mental well-being. A car-free society could redirect funds to better transit systems. Car ownership is a privilege, excluding lower-income individuals from mobility. Cars encourage poorly planned cities with long, unsustainable commutes.

Roads and parking lots consume valuable space in form of parking, garages, repairs, lanes...ect. that could be used for housing or parks or increase freedom of movement  of pedestrians. Suburbs force people to rely on cars, making life difficult without one. Cities would be safer and healthier with pedestrian-friendly infrastructure.

By the way, buses arent cars nor trucks, thus buses would still be allowed.

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Owning and maintaining cars on its own is expensive for individuals and governments. Wasted time in traffic harms productivity, reduces amount of free time and harms mental well-being. A car-free society could redirect funds to better transit systems. Car ownership is a privilege, excluding lower-income individuals from mobility. Cars encourage poorly planned cities with long, unsustainable commutes.
Bring back the horseback riding.
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Bring back the horseback riding.
Or horse carriages ^^

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Bring back the horseback riding.
Or horse carriages ^^
No more traffic jams or congestion.

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@TheGreatSunGod
These guys foresaw back in 1981 exactly such a possibility in the future:

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I'm surprised you have the courage to rise in the morning, considering you orbit the galaxy at 250 km/s
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Better yet, everybody should just stay home and order Door Dash when they get hungry.
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I believe you live in a privileged myopic world of delusion. 
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These guys foresaw back in 1981 exactly such a possibility in the future:
Well, there once was a world without cars, with just trains. It can be similar to that again in the future.

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I'm surprised you have the courage to rise in the morning, considering you orbit the galaxy at 250 km/s
Yeah, good argument.
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I just hate cars and trucks, okay?
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Great hate them, but the rest of the world and everyone in it need them to do everything or 3/4 of the population would starve to death. How the fuck do you think anything gets anywhere to serve 7 billion people. Ya horses and buggies can do it. You should hate people instead and promote mass genocide, people are the reason cars and trucks need to exist. Get rid of 7/8 of all the people then cars and trucks wont be needed.
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I believe you live in a privileged myopic world of delusion. 
I believe he lives with his parents and doesn't actually have to work for a living.




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Great hate them, but the rest of the world and everyone in it need them to do everything or 3/4 of the population would starve to death
Thats false, as there are many alternative ways to transport people and resources, and cars harm economy, animals, environment and people.
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I believe he lives with his parents and doesn't actually have to work for a living.
Work makes people dumber. Besides, there is no point to work in society where I cant find my place in.

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Again you live in a world of myopic privileged delusion. You have no idea how goods and services are moved around the planet serving 7 billion people.
Even environmental extremists who want to force electric powered vehicle's even acknowledge a world of 7 billion people cant survive without cars and trucks.
Go ahead and tell us all how  you are going to move 500 billion metric tons of products around the world every year and still keep perishable goods from spoiling before they reach their destinations?
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Again you live in a world of myopic privileged delusion. You have no idea how goods and services are moved around the planet serving 7 billion people.
Trains, rails, rail transport, airplanes, helicopters, ships, cargo bikes and drones were all shown to be more effective at transporting goods than trucks are. One rail alone can transport more goods than 30 trucks, and much faster too while using less fuel or energy, while being cheaper than 30 trucks and more durable. I dont even need to say that helicopters, drones and airplanes are much faster than trucks too and can go where trucks cannot while using less fuel and able to transport much more cargo per same cost. Cargo bikes are more suitable for smaller cargo and use much less fuel than trucks per same distance, and are cheaper and faster and more mobile than trucks too.
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Again you live in a world of myopic privileged delusion. You have no idea how goods and services are moved around the planet serving 7 billion people.
Trains, rails, rail transport, airplanes, helicopters, ships, cargo bikes and drones were all shown to be more effective at transporting goods than trucks are. One rail alone can transport more goods than 30 trucks, and much faster too while using less fuel or energy, while being cheaper than 30 trucks and more durable. I dont even need to say that helicopters, drones and airplanes are much faster than trucks too and can go where trucks cannot while using less fuel and able to transport much more cargo per same cost. Cargo bikes are more suitable for smaller cargo and use much less fuel than trucks per same distance, and are cheaper and faster and more mobile than trucks too
You should release these facts to the transportation minister.
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Your argument is as dumb as the  women make less 25% than men argument to do the same job. If that was true why do companies hire men. You also have no answer for how you will deal with perishable goods that need to be refrigerated or how you will deliver muti ton items. You truly have no logistical understanding of anything having to do with shipping. Absolutely none. Again your hatred is of people not cars and trucks. How dare people need things delivered from across the world to their homes and places of business. That's right we will just use 10 billion motor scooters to deliver everything. We will just strap that 10 ton lumber deliver on the back.
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Trains existed before cars and trucks, and trains were used to transport goods before. Not sure what confuses you.
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When an AI takes over it will probably make changes.

Whereas, we have currently evolved to a point, whereby we do what we do, because we did what we did.
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What part of how do you get a 5 ton deliver of lumber from the train to the job site don't you get? You are utterly clueless.
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What part of how do you get a 5 ton deliver of lumber from the train to the job site don't you get? You are utterly clueless.
Train can transport lumber anywhere where railway is built.

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"Train can transport lumber anywhere where railway is built." This statement alone proves you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.  How do you get the 5 ton lumber order from the train to the job site or the store that sells lumber. This is the part that completely eludes you. It just magically floats off the train where it needs to go.  You have no idea how it gets to the end user.


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How do you get the 5 ton lumber order from the train to the job site or the store that sells lumber.
This was already responded to. Train can transport lumber anywhere where railway is built. In the same way trucks must use roads to move, rails use railways, and where you can place a road, you can even easier place a railway. Rails are fastest land transport there is.
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How do you get the 5 ton lumber order from the train to the job site or the store that sells lumber.
This was already responded to. Train can transport lumber anywhere where railway is built. In the same way trucks must use roads to move, rails use railways, and where you can place a road, you can even easier place a railway. Rails are fastest land transport there is.
He is trying to defend the Truckers Union.
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How did they used to shift lumber?

All the did was replace the Horse with an engine.

Of course if the World population was reduced by several billion, there would be no need to shift lumber.

We just make work for ourselves.


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How did they used to shift lumber?
They used to ship lumber downstream, because lumber floats.
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Logs can float .

But sodden lumber is no good for construction.
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"rails use railways, and where you can place a road, you can even easier place a railway. Rails are fastest land transport there is." 

Oh I get it now, you propose to replace all roads everywhere with rail ways. It all makes sense to me now. My bad.