how Europe started a trade war with the United States

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Let's ignore the fact that Europe mooches off of America's military might be using 1% of there GDP for military while the United States subsidizes them and as a result uses 25% of it's GDP on the military despite zero benefit for doing so. 

Europe has been attacking America for years with a 10% tarrifs on America's auto industry while we only tarrifs heir cars at 2%. Trump is just trying to equal the playing field here. If it increases costs, blame Europe for attacking American business with high tarrifs first. 

Europe also has a VAT tax. Meaning if you import a car from Europe to drive it will cost 30% in taxes for you (a tarrifs essentially) while a European who has an American car exported will just pay like the 2.5% tarrif.

All this media claiming Trump is imposing a tarrifs and it might cause a trade war are lying. These are retaliatory tarrifs that have been harming American workers by nations who mooch off of our military might and who are supposed to be allies.


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Canada charges a 270% tarrifs on American dairy, attacking American farmers.


For tarrifs auto

https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwinton/2025/02/08/eu-unilateral-auto-tariff-offer-to-us-might-shelter-its-car-makers/
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There is no economic advantage being in a military alliance with EU when the EU has a trade cartel that excludes the USA (and Canada too!). If they want to only trade among themselves, then they can rely on each other to protect each other within their own exclusive economic group they created for themselves.

Either allow American membership into the EU, or USA can reconsider it's membership in NATO.
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There is no economic advantage being in a military alliance with EU when the EU has a trade cartel that excludes the USA (and Canada too!). If they want to only trade among themselves, then they can rely on each other to protect each other within their own exclusive economic group they created for themselves.

Either allow American membership into the EU, or USA can reconsider it's membership in NATO.
You are totally wrong again.
Does the EU trade with Canada?
The European Union (EU) is one of the largest economies in the world and Canada's second-largest trading partner. The Canada-European Union Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) presents Canadian businesses with preferential access to and excellent opportunities for growth in the EU.

Does the EU trade with US?
U.S. total goods trade with the European Union were an estimated $975.9 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to the European Union in 2024 were $370.2 billion, up 0.7 percent ($2.6 billion) from 2023. U.S goods imports from the European Union totaled $605.8 billion in 2024, up 5.1 percent ($29.4 billion) from 2023.

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I heard that this trade war Trump is promoting worldwide is necessary to reduce the federal debt. I'm not sure how that works because I'm not an economist but according to the plan the only way to reduce the US debt is by freezing the market or the consumption.

It sounds crazy and very risky but this is a matter of life and death because the US should pay twenty and some percent of its whole debt very soon. It's a ticking bomb and Trump should act asap.
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I am not sure how serious it should be taken but I think this guy at least wants some feathers in his cap. Being able to say he fixed the debt I think is high on his list. 

We also was allowing America to be terrified even unfairly due to lingering cold war politics, where we felt that it was better that we get some unfair trades than that these countries suffer and end up going the way of communism.
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Turning off foreign aid was a very good first step. It's like taking a credit card away from a drunken wife. The first step to admitting America can't afford all that nonsense.
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I honestly don't mind the money that was spent trying to make middle eastern countries gay. I think if we just triple down on that it could pay huge dividends. USAid is a way to weld soft power so I think instead of all the tranny shit we should just use it to spread Christianity. Spreading Christianity is going to be useful to the West assuming it's not a gay version of Christianity or voodoo with Christian themes like in some African countries. 

Christianity can simultaneously be used to pown the Chinese and a Islamic countries
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I don't think the ROI is really worth it if we can't even get free trade agreements or force them to eat cheeseburgers.

Christianity can simultaneously be used to pown the Chinese and a Islamic countries
China doesn't pay a huge cost for cracking down on diversity. The Chinese people expect it at this point. Middle Eastern people won't accept Christianity unless the people can maintain the hierarchy of the masculine male. And that old school Christianity is nearly gone from the world.
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Surprisingly, AI agreed with my summary assessment. It didn't call me names like it used to! Evolution?
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Turning off foreign aid was a very good first step. It's like taking a credit card away from a drunken wife. The first step to admitting America can't afford all that nonsense.
The courts disagree with you.

Supreme Court rejects Trump's request to keep billions in ...
The Trump administration revealed in court filings in the case that it is attempting to terminate more than 90% of the USAID foreign aid awards.



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The supreme court didn't disagree that its a good first step, they disagreed that it is a legal first step.

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Wylted 1:
Let's ignore the fact that Europe mooches off of America's military might be using 1% of there GDP for military while the United States subsidizes them and as a result uses 25% of it's GDP on the military despite zero benefit for doing so. [1]

Europe has been attacking America for years with a 10% tarrifs on America's auto industry while we only tarrifs heir cars at 2%. Trump is just trying to equal the playing field here. If it increases costs, blame Europe for attacking American business with high tarrifs first. [2]

Europe also has a VAT tax. Meaning if you import a car from Europe to drive it will cost 30% in taxes for you (a tarrifs essentially) while a European who has an American car exported will just pay like the 2.5% tarrif.[3]

All this media claiming Trump is imposing a tarrifs and it might cause a trade war are lying.[4] These are retaliatory tarrifs that have been harming American workers by nations who mooch off of our military might and who are supposed to be allies. [5]

[1] You are mistaken. The USA does not spend 25% on its GDP on the military and the EU spends more than 1% on defense.
How does the USA subsidize Europe? The USA does subsidize Israël for killing and subduing Palestinians, while the EU pays for rebuilding the damage done by Israël.
[2] That is incorrect. Europe is not attacking America. The tariff of 10% on cars is not specific to the USA, but on all imported cars. Moreover, the USA tariffs imported cars at 2,5%. The comparison of auto tariffs is selective and lacks context about broader trade relationships and different market structures. For example, the USA import tariff on light trucks is 25%.
The WTO framework is designed to promote overall trade liberalization across sectors, not reciprocal matching of tariff levels in specific industries. The organization encourages resolving trade disputes through its established dispute settlement mechanisms rather than through unilateral retaliatory measures. Basically, the opposite of what Trump is doing.
[3] That is misrepresentation. The EU VAT is not a tariff and applies to both imported and domestic products. Therefore it does not discriminate against USA products.
[4] You are mistaken. A lie must be false and with the intend to deceive. Since it is true, it can’t be a lie.
[5] The USA doesn’t spend a lot on its defense to protect Europe, but because it likes having the biggest army. The USA doesn’t protect shipping lanes in the Gulf region to help Europe. If they don’t do it, China will, which from the USA point of view would be worse.
The USA was out of self-interest also acting in the interest of Europe. The case can be made the Europe should have been a better ally and helped the USA more.

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Turning off foreign aid was a very good first step. It’s like taking a credit card away from a drunken wife. The first step to admitting America can’t afford all that nonsense.
It not foreign aid but development aid and American in media abroad that have been nerfed. Paying Israël to bomb Palestinians is money better spent.

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You know what they always forget to mention is this: If America made better products, we would just buy American products and foreign tariffs wouldn't matter.


Trump's economic enemies list is a comfort as the possibility that it's somebody else's fault is always a comfort.


It's true they manipulate and and protect their own industries, they act to control the means of production; but it only works because of the beam in our own eye: The fact that the federal government is stealing everything.

Deregulate, abolish taxation. Then it won't be our problem.
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You know what they always forget to mention is this: If America made better products, we would just buy American products and foreign tariffs wouldn't matter.
Americans will buy products even if they are made in China. Eg. Trump bibles and Trump’s MAGA hats.