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@ILikePie5
the word “carcinization” in this thread
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@ILikePie5
Honestly, if you scum read me on DP4 when you easily slam dunked me as scum after 10 posts last game...gotta say thats a huge skill gap there.
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@Greyparrot
???
As I've said before, there's not a lot to say in my defense because, frankly, I don't think there is a lot to say. My role claim is unverified so far. At least based on Mharman's use of his role last NP, I could use his role NP4, but it's unclear how much that will matter since my result could be manipulated and it would still depend on everyone buying what I get. Everything else is behavior. I was scumreading JoeBob early, before his claim. If you're sussing my lack of brackets in my PM, then it's weird that I started sussing the fake claim sitting on the table that was the only one claiming something similar. I get that this is still WIFOM to a degree, but I'd have to both be distancing and putting myself close to JoeBob simultaneously for this to work.
As for my reads, I've already said my piece on Luna multiple times in terms of his generally being sitting back this game, but Luna's just coasting through MYLO and sheeping Mharman's is a weird choice even given his previous claim. All he has to support him is that there was no NK, and that could just as easily be the result of scum just skipping an NK as it is his use of the Apportioner role. The only reason I can think of for why he should survive this DP is uncertainty about that protection, and I just don't buy it.
It's harder with both Barney and Austin, but if I'm picking one as a stand-out, it's the latter. All he has to support him is a role confirmation. It doesn't indicate anything about his affiliation, so it's neutral at best. And Austin has been more passive this game, even after he came back from his stated absence that first DP. I think he's had some good reads and some pretty basic insights that all look pretty similar to what I've seen from his scum play, and while I've had trouble seeing through his scum play before, this is starting to look familiar.
Barney's scum almost entirely through POE at this point. Behaviorally, all I'm seeing is much more akin to his town play than his scum play, and as I said before, I don't buy that he'd try this "I just keep getting RB'd" tactic as scum. A lot of my read comes from what I expect from him, though, and that's not enough for me to take him out of my POE.
There's a far lower chance that GP is scum with the whole role swap scenario. There may be some absurd scenario where the scum team swapped roles between themselves or this is a fake-out from GP, but I find either one of those far less believable. There are way too many specifics he's posted about his role for it to be the latter and the former would be a hell of a gambit, but I just don't buy that that's how scum would spend this role.
VTL whiteflame
Alr I’m finally ready now
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I love being a cock tease
Real talk it’s Lunatic or Whiteflame this DP.
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@AustinL0926
Whiteflame or Lunatic? Who do you prefer?
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@Mharman
I make one vote for Whiteflame and suddenly the whole DP roars to life again…
I can't speak for others, but I did tell you last week that I tend to be more active tuesday nights-saturday since it's my work week, and since I can't play video games or do other things really, I have a lot more time to focus on mafia.
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@whiteflame
As for my reads, I've already said my piece on Luna multiple times in terms of his generally being sitting back this game, but Luna's just coasting through MYLO and sheeping Mharman's is a weird choice even given his previous claim.
What previous claim? I am not just blindly sheeping mharman either, I specifically told him i'd vote for him out of the options that are in the POE, his POE coincides with my POE, other than the fact that I am in it as well. Out of the two of you or barney, I told him I'd be willing to lynch either of you and I have my own reasons for both choices, it's not being blindly made.
All he has to support him is that there was no NK, and that could just as easily be the result of scum just skipping an NK as it is his use of the Apportioner role. The only reason I can think of for why he should survive this DP is uncertainty about that protection, and I just don't buy it.
Literally there is multiple reasons you could town read me, you and others choose to dismiss it as WIFOM, I can't help that. But from my POV it literally makes no sense to play this game the way I have if scum. All the people who scum read me dp1 are still alive. I also target power roles as scum, and somehow most of the power roles are still living. If I was scum, people like mharman and pie would NOT be alive. Me having a protection that WORKED doesn't even benefit me. I am still one of the highest lynch targets next day phase even if I survive today. There is no end game or goal for me here as scum. All this is to counter your point that the ONLY reason there is to town read me is my role. There is much more but it will be continuously ignored.
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@Mharman
Austin had it ordered that he susses Whiteflame more earlier. Now his sus on Barney is stronger. Not sure what to make of that.
I would prefer WF today, not sure why you thought I sus Barney more.
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@Mharman
Whiteflame or Lunatic? Who do you prefer?
WF, for stated mech reasons regarding Luna's claim either outing himself as scum/forcing him to forfeit another kill choice as scum, or forcing scum to verify/lose a kill in the unlikely even he's town
Whiteflame not voting or even making a push is lowkey outing btw.
God everything feels like a misdirect this game
Give me a bit to catch up
VTL Whiteflame
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@ILikePie5
Lowkey wanna flip my vote away from Whiteflame. Skimmed through the whole game again and he seems the most genuine
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@ILikePie5
Lmk
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@Mharman
Just pointing out the obvious logic here, if you are believing there is 3 scum left which it seems you and everyone does, then the fact that whiteflame hasn't been hammered yet should be telling since everyone has been on and posting since my vote, even absent of your recent one. Meaning whiteflame is scum, I am, or we both are. Your odds of hitting town here are at worst 50/50.
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@Barney
@ILikePie5
@AustinL0926
Yeah I’ll comfort to it.
VTL Whiteflame
Go ahead and hammer
Commit
Bad gut feeling but sure
Wish it were between Barney and Lunatic. Would’ve loved going for Barney here.
Every time Whiteflame did literally anything, Barney followed. I swear it’s a pattern when you read this game.
Plus, no defense from Barney. And Barney himself seems content going down here.
I guess if we don’t lose here Barney is an instalynch tomorrow.
But alas, Lunatic is right about the no hammer
I guess if Whiteflame’s teammates are turning on him like this (they have to be- everyone but Barney is voicing support for it), it should be fine.
And I’m sure Barney will support it shortly
I guess it should be fine, logically speaking. Guts (nerves?) don’t like it but whatever.
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@Lunatic
Just pointing out the obvious logic here, if you are believing there is 3 scum left which it seems you and everyone does, then the fact that whiteflame hasn't been hammered yet should be telling since everyone has been on and posting since my vote, even absent of your recent one. Meaning whiteflame is scum, I am, or we both are. Your odds of hitting town here are at worst 50/50.
Couldn’t GP be scum though?