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Well, "his country deciding" is really, "a former PM deciding".  Trump happens to be the current leader of the US; but whether it's current or prior should be irrelevent.
It's not irrelevant at all. Playing the game within the rules is one thing, changing the rules mid game just to suit yourself is something different entirely. The latter is the very thing at issue.

When you say this, do you mean:

1. Trump's Personal FINANCIAL benefit.
2. Trump's Personal IDEOLOGICAL benefit.
3. Other
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He's an ego maniacal narcissist who doesn't want to give up power. He has no respect for the constitution, American history or America's future. He cares about himself and staying in power is how he makes himself feel important. He also believes (and maybe rightly) that staying in power is the only way to keep himself out of jail.
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but probably not.

I will have to reassess your grasp on reality.
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but probably not.

I will have to reassess your grasp on reality.
How about your own grasp on reality?
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but probably not.

I will have to reassess your grasp on reality.
So... You think he will get a third term?
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So... You think he will get a third term?
He needs a third term to stay out of jail.
He's an ego maniacal narcissist who doesn't want to give up power. He has no respect for the constitution, American history or America's future. He cares about himself and staying in power is how he makes himself feel important. He also believes (and maybe rightly) that staying in power is the only way to keep himself out of jail.

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Well, Trump did make H L Mencken's prediction come true.
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Is Gavin Newsom a moron for destroying the Democrat party over the issue of men in women's sports?

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How about Stacy Abrams, is she a moron for destroying the Democrat party by getting caught wasting 2 billion dollars?

Stacy Abrams said she spent the $1.9 BiLLION USAID DOLLARS to purchase energy efficient appliances for that "tiny town" in order to lower their electric bills. This would be at a cost (simple math) of over $14 MILLION DOLLARS per home. But it is EVEN WORSE. Abrams says she was able to buy appliance for only 75% of the homes in Desoto Georgia.
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How about the people running ActBlue, are they morons for destroying the Democrat party by knowingly funding terrorism?
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Gavin Newsom wants to run for president in 2028. He is lying when he says he has a problem with men in women's sports. He doesn't care about women. Or about their safety.
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Is AOC a moron for destroying the Democrat party by getting caught staffing an illegal alien while proclaiming to be all about "law and order?"


AOC's campaign’s Deputy Comm Director was an illegal…he has now self-deported to Colombia.

A sitting member of Congress employed an illegal migrant.  A sitting member of Congress warned illegals how to evade ICE...

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You believe in God, don't you?
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Do you believe Van Jones says terrorists are destroying the Democrat party by setting Teslas on fire?

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When I say God, you know that I mean Trump.
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You should trust Van Jesus
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"By amassing a cult following that would be willing to throw away the constitution and commit violence on your behalf, then pardon many of them thereby signaling that violence under your administration is ok if committed on your behalf, then use that support to pressure members of Congress into doing whatever you want." 

Sounds familiar, almost like the pot calling the kettle black
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Sounds familiar, almost like the pot calling the kettle black.
Left wing cultists are literally setting Teslas on fire as he wrote that nonsense.
Letting gang member illegals out on the street to fuck up Americans while complaining that a barrier shaker didn't have to spend more than 3 years doing hard time....
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Playing the game within the rules is one thing, changing the rules mid game just to suit yourself is something different entirely. The latter is the very thing at issue.
Any US politician that wanted a Canadian style term limit structure is going to have to change the rules mid game is the thing.

He also believes (and maybe rightly) that staying in power is the only way to keep himself out of jail.
Nobody would be trying to jail him if he didn't run for POTUS, so the idea is a backfire.

Trump does have a big ego though; every POTUS does whether they show it or not.

He has no respect for the constitution, American history or America's future. 
This is accurate I think, given some of the stuff he advocated for (Muslim ban).  But there are some historically American things that I would want to axe (ex: the electoral college), so I don't like that part of US history.
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"By amassing a cult following that would be willing to throw away the constitution and commit violence on your behalf, then pardon many of them thereby signaling that violence under your administration is ok if committed on your behalf, then use that support to pressure members of Congress into doing whatever you want." 

Sounds familiar, almost like the pot calling the kettle black
Curious to know what non existent fantasy you think happened on the left that is equivalent to this?
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Left wing cultists are literally setting Teslas on fire as he wrote that nonsense.
Wow, Billy Bob on Twitter set his Tesla in fire. Let's keep that one in our back pocket so we can pull it out when we need it to own the libs.

Great job.

Letting gang member illegals out on the street to fuck up Americans...
Can you provide any example where the left advocated for this anywhere?

while complaining that a barrier shaker didn't have to spend more than 3 years doing hard time....
So funny how you like to hyperfocus on every detail of every instance of every crime committed when the perp is an illegal but when it's a Trump supporter who is then pardoned by Trump you suddenly feel the need to downplay it. It's almost like you don't actually believe in the ideas you claim to be all about.
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You know who is really holding the Democrats hostage? A small minority of radicals. Trump's best ad was pointing out how Democrats were fully on the 20% side of the 20-80 issue on transgenders. Democrats are literally too afraid to take the 80 percent side due to violent leftist extremism and ridiculous and irrational anti-social purity tests. You can't find a "moderate" Democrat anywhere because the radical left will brand them as a "maga"...just look at how Gavin Newsom was treated.

Not that I see this changing anytime soon, nor do I think it's necessary to reform the Democrat party. I used to think it would be bad when we lost the Democrat party, but now, I really don't think it will be as bad as I feared knowing how useless and weak the leadership is. Sometimes you need to raze to the ground and rebuild.
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Any US politician that wanted a Canadian style term limit structure is going to have to change the rules mid game is the thing.
Right, which makes them different.

Nobody would be trying to jail him if he didn't run for POTUS, so the idea is a backfire.
Trump was indicted in four different jurisdictions because he committed obvious and serious crimes. It's not about "trying to jail him", it's about deciding that someone who committed obvious and serious crimes and to which those crimes have been publicized to the entire population should be held accountable.

The reason why I say he's probably right about needing another term to stay out of jail is because he can't help himself. Especially after being given presidential immunity by the SC he's feeling really bold so sooner or later he'll probably overstep even their obscenely generous take.
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Trump was indicted in four different jurisdictions because he committed obvious and serious crimes. It's not about "trying to jail him", it's about deciding that someone who committed obvious and serious crimes and to which those crimes have been publicized to the entire population should be held accountable.

The reason why I say he's probably right about needing another term to stay out of jail is because he can't help himself. Especially after being given presidential immunity by the SC he's feeling really bold so sooner or later he'll probably overstep even their obscenely generous take.
Over the course of five decades, Donald Trump has been accused of sexual assault, tax evasion, money laundering, non-payment of employees, and the defrauding of tenants, customers, contractors, investors, bankers, and charities. Also filed 6 bankruptcies. Trump paid 88.5 million to E.Jean Carroll for raping and defaming her. Trump was charged with paying hush money to porn stat Stormy Daniels to keep secret their sexual encounter while Melania was pregnant with Barron. Trump's false or misleading claims total 30573 over 4 years . 
Trump has been impeached twice, indicted 4 times with 91 felony counts. Ordered to pay 88.3 million dollars for sexually assaulting and defaming E.Jean Carroll. Trump was fined 464 million dollars for business fraud and is in court for paying a porn star Stormy Daniels hush money to keep her silent during the elections. Trump's false or misleading claims total 30573 over 4 years Trump has been charged with tax fraud in Chicago to the tune of 100 million dollars. A New York jury on Thursday found Donald Trump guilty on all 34 felony counts of falsifying business records — the first time a former U.S. president has been convicted of a crime.

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someone who committed obvious and serious crimes
Give me a break. They were not anywhere near close to obvious crimes because the DA objectively conspired with the Judge to not specify the underlying crime.

Nor were they serious. People don't suddenly decide to become a felon at 70+ years old when they have everything to lose by doing so. The public rightfully saw this as a hatchet job orchestrated by autocratic power mongers. prior to 2016, Trump had zero felony charges ever brought up against him for any felonious criminal activity. This was a hail-mary to try to win the game, but the public threw the yellow flag, and all that's left are tears for the rabid fans on the left.
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They were not anywhere near close to obvious crimes because the DA objectively conspired with the Judge to not specify the underlying crime.
You're such a liar. You just keep repeating the same nonsense no matter how many times you are smacked in the face with reality.

Here it is again. Maybe this time you will actually engage, or more likely not since it is easier to just repeat the same garbage later after pretending the below was never pointed out to you.

People don't suddenly decide to become a felon at 70+ years old when they have everything to lose by doing so.
Correct, which is why some of these cases went back decades. Turns out when you decide to run for president with your qualifier being your business record, people take a harder look at your business record. And when people take a harder look at your business record, the crimes you've been committing will gain more attention. Who knew?

The public rightfully saw this as a hatchet job orchestrated by autocratic power mongers.
Because propaganda works. Out of the four indictments the weakest case by far both morally and legally is the one involving a crime that his personal attorney was incarcerated for 3 years over. So even if you could ignore the other three, your best argument is still that it's ok for his attorney to go to jail for it but not the guy he committed the crime "in coordination with and at the direction of". Not exactly a strong argument.
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Correct, which is why some of these cases went back decades.
Lol, not the New York case. That was fabricated in 2016. Pure con job by the Democrats, and they paid dearly for it.

Because propaganda works
Nope, your propaganda failed. And continues to fail.
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How about Canadians can concern themselves with their Constitution, and Americans can concern themselves with theirs.

The idea that there must be parity between the two nations is inane.  They are different countries, with different cultures, and different needs.  

For instance, we have the right to bear arms, but in Canada, it's just too damn cold for bare arms.


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For instance, we have the right to bear arms, but in Canada, it's just too damn cold for bare arms.
Canada has universal healthcare. Doge is trying to cut funding for Medicaid, social security and veterans.
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"Curious to know what non existent fantasy you think happened on the left that is equivalent to this?"

Oh nothing, sorry, the left is as honest and pure as the driven snow and would never do anything to subvert or manipulate the rule of law. I take it all back, all the way back to Mexico.
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Right, which makes them different.
But changing the rules when you happen to benefit from the rules is fine.  Like, politicians are allowed to raise their own salaries; people don't really care if it's not too much of a raise.

Trump was indicted in four different jurisdictions because he committed obvious and serious crimes. 
What were the obvious and serious crimes?

And Jan 6 was horrible, but the left thought he committed a bunch of crimes before Jan 6, so you would have to resort to crimes before Jan 6.