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Agnostic is just a soft atheist
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@Polytheist-Witch
Commit to which religion?
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@janesix
Who said anything about religion?
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@Polytheist-Witch
Then commit to what?
And how do you do that?
What is wrong with not knowing, and keeping your mind open to possibilities?
If you are a theist be one if you are an atheist be one. If you are agnostic you are saying might be one but who knows. When I hear agnostic I hear, I would be a theist but I need more proof.
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@Polytheist-Witch
That's what I say!!I would be a theist but I need more proof.
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@Polytheist-Witch
I don't think there will ever be enough"proof". I might be a solipsist.
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@janesix
If you believe in yourself, does that make you a theist?I don't think there will ever be enough"proof". I might be a solipsist.
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@3RU7AL
No, since I am not a God.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Commit.
Intolerance of ambiguity.
Clearly the hallmark of a political conservative.
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@janesix
No, since I am not a God.
Eh, that seems to be an ontological choice.
(IFF) solipsism is true (THEN) you are the "ultimate reality" and or "the most powerful intelligence in existence".
This sounds a lot like the descriptions of Brahman.
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@3RU7AL
I don't believe I am the only one that exists.
I just don't necessarily have any other beliefs.
I am certain I exist.
I am not certain of anything else.
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@3RU7AL
Not surprised you bring politics in here. I think it's time to block you.
Not surprised you are hyper-sensitive.Not surprised you bring politics in here. I think it's time to block you.
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@janesix
I don't believe I am the only one that exists.I just don't necessarily have any other beliefs.I am certain I exist.I am not certain of anything else.
This seems perfectly rational.
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@3RU7AL
I think that if everyone really broke down their beliefs, they would come to the same conclusion.
It is really crippling to only commit based on 100% certainty. Getting sucked into an epistemological black hole isn't much different than depression in mentality. It is really self defeating.
If you can't at least believe that there is truth, where is there to go?
It might not be apparent to those who suspend their belief in truth because they don't know it, but this is actually a pretty haughty position to take. I don't believe in truth because I don't know it!
How can you ever come to know truth if you don't believe in it?
At some point, you really do have to have faith. Faith is a dirty word to those qho are in denial of their own faith, but it is really not a bad thing. In mant ways it is a good thing. Can faith be a bad thing? Certainly, but faith in itself is not bad.
Faith in the truth is a good thing. At the very least, believe it exists. If you can do this, that faith the size of a mustard seed will reveal so much. If you love the truth, there is clearly a right way to do this. Be sincere. Be honest. Strive for purity of heart. Polish the nous clean.
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@Mopac
I want to know what the truth IS, not some fairy tale that I find palatable.
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@janesix
I agree.I think that if everyone really broke down their beliefs, they would come to the same conclusion.
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@janesix
Of course, and who wouldn't?
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@janesix
No we wouldn't. Obviously.
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@Mopac
How can you believe in something you don't really "know"?
Isn't it just kidding yourself?
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@janesix
See you are an atheist. And you try to call people out like Mopac. Hypocrite.
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@Polytheist-Witch
I'm a theist agnostic.
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@3RU7AL
Epistemological nihilism is the end of it all!
And it certainly is if knowledge is taken as an idol before The Truth.
Loving The Truth isn't about knowledge. It is about living The Truth. So how do you abide in The Truth?
That is what the Orthodox discipline is and has always been about.
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@janesix
You don't know the truth.
Does that mean you don't believe the truth?
Knowledge should not be an idol before the truth.
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@Mopac
How can i believe something that I don't know? That doesn't make any sense.
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@janesix
Funny you claim to have experience god and told others they obviously haven't.
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@Polytheist-Witch
When did I say others havent experienced God?
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@janesix
Knowledge is not the truth.
You do know what the truth is though. How can you not believe? If you don't at the very least believe in truth, how can you believe in anything?
It should be easier to believe in truth than even your own existence, after all, if there is no truth, you would not exist. There is no existence without truth.