Faith is a logical fallacy

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That is not the definition of faith, no matter how many times you proclaim it.
If you are not going to agree on a definition, then there is no debate. Either give a definition you want to debate on, or this wont go anywhere.
Making up definitions of words just isn't necessary, they have resources for that, they are called dictionaries, check it out.

Is the rejection of science a precept of your religion?
It was a comment on quantum physics. Even Einstein said that its not perfect because it doesnt have direct observation. When there is no direct observation, then there is only inductive reasoning or by results. Inductive is not perfect because its basically built on assumption that things we cannot observe are acting in same way as things we can observe. If you go by results of things you cant observe, it is like observing the effect while not seeing the cause. So while we know that cause exists and reacts to input, it is still not an observation of a cause. So without direct observation, it is very silly to assume that we can know exactly how it works. We dont even know everything about things we can directly observe. Brain can be observed given enough time, but brain has so many connections that mere amount makes it impossible to observe it effectively, let alone make complete theory from such an observation. With the things you cant observe directly or which rely on flawed observation instruments, it is even harder. Science isnt some magic which gives instantly correct answers. Most scientists spend decades working on theories, and face many failures. It is years of effort which eventually reveal a working theory out of bunch theories out there. Even theory of evolution today isnt same as it was when it was first produced.
Kim Jong-un said his archeologists found evidence of unicorns, do you think that is proof that unicorns exist.

Is that why you believe in unicorns, because Kim Jong-un's archeologists found proof?
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If you want to discuss philosophy, sure. Many philosophers were literally insane. Zeno made pointless arguments about how movement is impossible. Plato believed that you cant actually learn anything except what you already know. Aristotle believed in the existence of soul and made some works of fiction about it. To put it simply, philosophers dont seek truth. They seek to be absurd and mock general knowledge. Philosophers arent really something you go for when seeking truth. 
Yeah, this post shows a lot about how much philosophy you understand. Maybe if you stopped half-assing your pursuit of knowledge with superficial AI summaries and actually took the time to study philosophy you would realize how stupid this post is.

By the way, the method of science is based on a certain philosophy of knowledge.
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Guys, its okay. I accept your concessions.
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I am not really a newcomer, but faith i can have that you will learn the word. You are taking a group of people with different faiths that act differently based on their faiths. Now to change the whole debate, do they believe and have faith that they will be forgiving because they know that they are not practicing their belief completely? They have faith individually that they will be forgiven. But in the whole faith is individual. 

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The question is invalid. 
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You are taking a group of people with different faiths that act differently based on their faiths
Yes. Not sure why you feel the need to describe what I did.

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Guys, it’s okay. I accept your concessions.
Ha! That’s rich:




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If you are not going to agree on a definition, then there is no debate. Either give a definition you want to debate on, or this wont go anywhere.
An appeal to faith (or an appeal to belief) occurs when someone argues that you must first accept the truth of a statement in order to be able to rationally accept it. The fallacy is a form of circular logic and an informal fallacy.

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you must first accept the truth of a statement in order to be able to rationally accept it
If there is no agreement on definitions, then there can be no debate. It just becomes ranting.
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Guys, its okay. I accept your concessions.
Let's be clear, I concede that you reject science, philosophy, and religion, but you do believe unicorns exist.

But that does not mean I conceded that unicorns exist, sorry, but I don't consider Kim Jung-un to be an authority on the matter.

Whatever floats your boat.
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you must first accept the truth of a statement in order to be able to rationally accept it
If there is no agreement on definitions, then there can be no debate. It just becomes ranting.
That is why I am very selective with what I post.
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@Sidewalker
I concede that you reject science, philosophy, and religion
You forgot that you also concede that you gave link to dictionary which uses same definition of faith as the one I used, while you still refused to provide your own definition. I dont blame you tho. There is no definition of "faith" which you can provide which would work for your case.
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I do not concede to your statements. Obviously.

Your bold assertions are at best amusing. 
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I do not concede to your statements.
Thats fine, I guess.
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Guys, its okay. I accept your concessions.
Let's be clear, I concede that you reject science, philosophy, and religion, but you do believe unicorns exist.

But that does not mean I conceded that unicorns exist, sorry, but I don't consider Kim Jung-un to be an authority on the matter.

Whatever floats your boat.
You are very selective with what you allow others to believe.
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 I am very selective with what I post.
That’s… *Looking around the forums*…  a bit hard to believe…


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 I am very selective with what I post.
That’s… *Looking around the forums*…  a bit hard to believe…
Try harder.
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Try harder.
Back atcha.

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Try harder.
Back atcha.
Nice try.