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I've heard that red states don't want to bail out California.

Well, the next time Florida has a hurricane, the federal government and other state government should not send a dime.

I don't care if trailer park kids die; my rich Yankee tax dollars are more important than their lives and if you disagree, then you are a leftist who wants rampant government spending (or a MAGA RINO).  The former I can respect; the ladder I can't.

Let Trailer Park Timmy STARVE for all I fucking care!!!
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Lets invite some members of the MAGA religion to see if they value capitalism more, or the trailer parks more.

I value capitalism more; fuck the trailer park trash!!!
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I rate this rage bait a 5/10.

If you want to argue FEMA should be disbanded in favor of the states being individually responsible for their own disaster aid, go for it. It would solve the problem of states being forced to help other states. I don’t have an opinion on the idea other than I would say I’m cautiously intrigued by it.

If you want to argue states affected by hurricanes should never send any aid to their people because some Republicans don’t like the idea of paying for California’s wildfire relief, lol. Just lol.

The difference between the California and the hurricane states is that California has been neglecting its forest management duties in its parks, directly increasing the damages caused by forest fires over there, while also trying to fund various pet projects that none of the hurricane states would touch with a ten foot pole. Comparing these forest fires to Hurricane Milton is foolish.

Should we deny California aid at this time? I would say no, but I’m not opposed to giving them a sort of warning to start being more efficient with their spending (forest management included) that could come with future reductions to forest fire aid. After all, if they throw away money that could be used to reduce forest fire damages in funding said pet projects, it would eventually make the federal government pretty irresponsible for enabling California’s ridiculous spending.
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Well, the next time Florida has a hurricane, the federal government and other state government should not send a dime.

Cause 750 dollars means so much. GTFO Ukraine traitor.
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You could also make the case that Katrina was largely man-made much like the LA fires because of the blatant neglect to prepare the levee walls to proper standards.

I do like the idea of government reform. FEMA is too slow and inefficient to make a difference. Immediate relief always comes from private groups and state resources. This year, FEMA became a meme with the 750 cash payment instead of real help. Over the long term, FEMA distorts insurance markets and causes people to build even more poorly and locate in worse areas than the risk actually costs. FEMA also gives states incentives to "create" disasters through neglect, since it's so goddamn easy to siphon off a billion or 2 of barely noticed Federal funds like the state approved contractors did post Katrina.
Congress made a ton of redundant and bloated ways to spend tax money 50 years ago though the decades of massive government department expansions. I expect DOGE to take the ax to this Federal executive department somewhere down the line. If not, then turning FEMA into a political weapon to spank bad states would be a reluctant second option.
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AI said the best solution is to keep FEMA around as a way to "coordinate state relief efforts" but remove the ability to provide billions in direct financial aid including the FEMA insurance program.

I probs would agree to that compromise if FEMA wasn't fully abolished.

Congress vs. FEMA: The Efficiency Myth
  1. Congressional Accountability:
    • When a pre-1979 Congress allocated disaster relief on a case-by-case basis, there was at least debate and oversight. Lawmakers had to justify expenditures and ensure the funds were directed to real needs.
    • FEMA, by contrast, operates with a blanket mandate and enormous discretion, which has led to rampant mismanagement, fraud, and waste.
  2. FEMA's Track Record:
    • FEMA’s response to Hurricane Katrina was infamously slow and chaotic, with billions wasted on unused resources, fraudulent claims, and poorly managed contracts.
    • The $750 “meme payment” this year is another example of FEMA’s tone-deaf approach—failing to deliver meaningful relief while burning through taxpayer money on bureaucracy.
  3. Local and Private Efficiency:
    • Before FEMA, states, local governments, and private organizations handled the bulk of disaster relief. These groups are closer to the affected areas, enabling faster and more effective responses.
    • FEMA’s centralized approach, by contrast, creates bottlenecks and delays as it tries to coordinate across vast bureaucratic layers.
Congress Would Be Better Today
  • With modern technology, data, and communication tools, Congress could arguably handle disaster relief faster and more effectively than FEMA ever has. For example:
    • Relief funds could be allocated digitally and directly to states, bypassing FEMA’s administrative overhead.
    • Transparent reporting requirements could ensure funds are spent wisely, discouraging waste and fraud.
Why FEMA Is Worse Than Congress
FEMA doesn’t just duplicate Congress’s role—it amplifies inefficiencies:
  1. Incentivizing Neglect: States and local governments know FEMA will bail them out, so there’s little incentive to invest in proper infrastructure or preparedness.
  2. Distorting Markets: FEMA’s flood insurance program encourages risky development, creating disasters where none might have existed.
  3. Bloated Bureaucracy: With its sprawling size and mission creep, FEMA ends up wasting resources on administrative costs rather than direct aid.

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I don't care if trailer park kids die; my rich Yankee tax dollars are more important than their lives
You are good at presenting Trump's true ideology.
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The former I can respect; the ladder I can't.
Can't make it up, I swear.
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@RemyBrown
Lets invite some members of the MAGA religion to see if they value capitalism more, or the trailer parks more.

I value capitalism more; fuck the trailer park trash!!!
Trailer parks is where MAGA lives.
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And homeless tents and burned out houses are where Democrats live.

Race to the bottom playing the false dichotomy game, as usual.
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I dont mind my tax dollars going out for relief in California. Better than israel getting their grubby hands on it
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I dont mind my tax dollars going out for relief in California. Better than israel getting their grubby hands on it
That is the world opinion.
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The difference between the California and the hurricane states is that California has been neglecting its forest management duties in its parks, directly increasing the damages caused by forest fires over there
This is fine, as long as we impose similar guidelines on Florida for their flooding management duties.  Just be consistent.


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@Best.Korea
You are good at presenting Trump's true ideology.
He wants to ban porn; I don't.

But honestly, I am fine with letting anti government people starve to death if their only source of revenue is government spending.  Lets start with cutting the budget on their salaries.

They can be anti BLM and that would be fine; they could like Matt Walsh, that's fine too.  They can be anti CRT or a big Andrew Tate fan and that's fine.

Just don't be against government spending broadly if you directly receive it.  If you want to be specific (no funding for OTHER countries), then hey; your American; the Ukrainians are not; that's fine.  Don't say, "Cut domestic spending" without specifying and expect to get government spending if I'm in charge.
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Trailer parks is where MAGA lives.
Alright; so they prefer trailer park welfare handouts over capitalism.  Just OWN that if you live in the trailer parks.
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That’s fine but I don’t recall Florida taking funds out of their own flood plans to fund something stupid, so I doubt it’ll be an issue for them.
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That’s fine but I don’t recall Florida taking funds out of their own flood plans to fund something stupid, so I doubt it’ll be an issue for them.
Florida cannot afford to ignore its status as a tourist destination.
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@RemyBrown
California fires are unforgettable
FEMA funds
We got it on lock
Temperatures so hot
They'll burn your property
Ooh oh ooh
Ooh oh ooh

I'm sorry

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Dream of California fires...
Dream of California fires...

🎵
Psychic sparks from power lines ignite the devastation,
And homeless camps in the canyons spark new conflagration.
And if you want this kind of blaze, it’s California fires.
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It’s the edge of the hills and all of dry unraked vegetation,
FEMA sits and spins their wheels, no help or explanation.
It’s understood disaster grows—it's California fires.
🎵
Pay the arsonist his fee, to torch the lands of aging.
Smoky skies, FEMA denies, while chaos keeps on raging.
Flame born unicorn,
Lost homes, forlorn.

Dream of California fires,
Dream of California fires,
Dream of California fires,
Dream of California fires.

The homeless camps, the winds that dance, they bring the flames in motion,
While water funds and DEI plans drown in corruption’s ocean.
And every year they’re lighting up—it’s California fires.
🎵
Space may be the final frontier, but it’s hard to build a reservoir,
FEMA shows with a check so small, it’s barely worth a soundbite.
The golden state is painted black—it's California fires.
🎵
Pay the arsonist his fee, to torch the lands of aging.
Smoky skies, FEMA denies, while chaos keeps on raging.
Fire born unicorn,
Lost homes, forlorn.
🎵
Dream of California fires,
Dream of California fires,
Dream of California fires,
Dream of California fires.
🎵
Destruction breeds a wildfire’s seed, the heatwave shows no patience.
FEMA sleeps, while the homeless sparks ignite the next cremation.
🎵
Dream of California fires…
Dream of California fires…
Dream of California fires…
Dream of California fires…




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Dream of California fires…
Dream of California fires…
Dream of California fires…
Dream of California fires…
You must go to bed with a lot of hate every night.
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You must go to bed with a lot of hate every night.
He has let the dark side consume him totally. The victor who doesnt know that he needs to retreat after victory.
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You must go to bed with a lot of hate every night.
He has let the dark side consume him totally. The victor who doesnt know that he needs to retreat after victory.
What victory is there Dreaming of California fires?
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@Shila
What victory is there Dreaming of California fires?
Greyparrot considers it a divine punishment for sins.
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What victory is there Dreaming of California fires?
Greyparrot considers it a divine punishment for sins.
California did not vote for Trump.
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California did not vote for Trump.
Greyparrot considers that a great sin.
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California did not vote for Trump.
Greyparrot considers that a great sin
Does he own a Trump Bible?

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Does he own a Trump Bible?
Yes.

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Does he own a Trump Bible?
Yes.
He should have learnt to forgive and forget.
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There once was a pair, Shila and BK,
Who snuck out together at the café.
Their hearts did a dance,
In a love-filled trance,
But they swore they'd keep it hidden away.
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By moonlight, they'd meet near the old oak tree,
Sharing whispers of love only they could see.
Though the world was blind,
Their hearts intertwined,
Bound in a secret, as sweet as could be.
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When morning arrived, they'd both play their part,
Hiding the passion that burned in their heart.
With a glance or a grin,
Their love lived within,
A story of secrets that time can't outsmart.
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That’s better than wishing fire on California.