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@Mall
You don't need a holiday in the name of a lie , fairy tale , etc.
Christmas was traditionally a Christian festival celebrating the birth of Jesus, but in the early 20th century, it also became a secular family holiday, observed by Christians and non-Christians alike

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@Mall
Sorry to hear that,
Do you want to talk about it?

As Xavier Renegade Angel taught me, I'm part of society too.
If I had kids, I don't think I'd go along with the tradition of telling them Santa will bring them gifts,
But I would go with the tradition of Christmas stockings, a tree (Aluminum), presents.

I don't feel an unpleasant pressure to conform to Christmas,
I feel free to pick and choose according to my desires.

If someone wants to have an arranged date of celebration of some event each year, what skin off my nose is it?
If they invite me, I can choose to decline or accept if I want.
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@Lemming
Sorry to hear that,
Do you want to talk about it?
Mall has more Unknowns in his life than most members. He won’t know where to start.
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I celebrate Christmas because it is part of my countries coulure and tradition. A country without couture and tradition is just a bunch of people with nothing in common.
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@sadolite
I celebrate Christmas because it is part of my countries coulure and tradition. A country without couture and tradition is just a bunch of people with nothing in common.
How do you know your country’s culture when you cannot even name your country in your profile?
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@Shila
Yes , the religion of Santa Claus, snow man, elf, etc.
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@Lemming
Yes we can talk about you not really having your own mind and I've exposed it. Now if I'm wrong, choose another date outside the 25th.

Will you do that?
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@Mall
No, for the obvious reason, that if I go along with what you want, I clearly have no mind of my own, and am just following along with what you want.
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@Mall
Yes , the religion of Santa Claus, snow man, elf, etc.
Is that your religion for the season?
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@Shila
No no. Not necessarily, you choose the date for yourself. If you think you don't have your own mind by adhering to my suggestion, well you still don't have it by adhering to society either. 

But in actuality you demonstrate your own mind, your own creativity outside of convention. 
Just food for thought. 
Don't follow, lead.  

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@Mall
No no. Not necessarily, you choose the date for yourself. If you think you don't have your own mind by adhering to my suggestion, well you still don't have it by adhering to society either. 

But in actuality you demonstrate your own mind, your own creativity outside of convention. 
Just food for thought. 
Don't follow, lead.  
Good advice not to follow your lead.