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Oh no! Not a government shutdown! If those last too long what excuse for stealing will we have after people realize we don't do shit!
Funny how everytime there's a government shutdown the side the public holds responsible for it feels the immediate political remafications of it... It's almost as if the work the government does matters... Who knew?
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Ok, ok, I know what you want to see.
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Gee I didn’t know Trump could cause a shutdown under the Biden administration.
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ok so I looked up what this was about

Basically, there was a bipartisan bill, 1,500 pages long that was supposed to avoid a shutdown. Trump proposed a 116 page version of the bill instead, the House rejected it, with Dems hating on the proposal. 

To avoid a government shutdown, both the House and Senate will have to go back to the original plan.

all in all, I can’t say I care that much. If the govt shuts down for a bit, oh well. Given that the GOP controls the senate, house, and presidency, Trump will get his way soon. The only real inconvenience I see is that the 1500 page version has a lot of things that the next administration will want to get rid of.

So, the only real consequence here is how soon the Rs get what they want. Government employees will be furloughed, but I don’t care.

What is surprising to me is that Trump played a role in this. I’ve seen a lot of “orange man bad, here’s why Biden’s failures are Trumps fault” posts on here. The previous post was hasty of me because I defaulted to how I would normally respond to something like that. My b
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Read an NBC article about the current situation, they cited trash piling up in public parks as a negative consequence of a shutdown (with reference to 2018) If that’s the worst they can come up with, I’m not bothered.

I remember the last time the government shut down. Everyone went about their business as usual. I think ADOL is correct about this.

As far as the politics of it goes, I think the Rs will be blamed and lose a little support (I’m taking DR’s word for it here when he says shutdowns negatively impact the side that gets blamed).

Last thing I’m gonna say here is that the American public will end up caring way too much about something that they will hardly be affected by, because government shutdowns sound worse than they really are (again, assuming DR is correct and people will actually care). I wouldn’t take outrage and the political blame game as evidence that it really matters in the grand scheme of things, or that the government is doing anything useful right now.
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they cited trash piling up in public parks as a negative consequence of a shutdown (with reference to 2018) If that’s the worst they can come up with, I’m not bothered.
National parks I presume. In the USA (for those who don't know) the most important things are handled by local government. Things like sewage, trash, roads, water, police, firefighters, EMS are all county or city level. In some circumstances states have roles in these things.

In other words federal agents don't pickup our trash. In fact in democrat run cities nobody picks up the litter.


I wouldn’t take outrage and the political blame game as evidence that it really matters in the grand scheme of things, or that the government is doing anything useful right now.
For how much we spend it is remarkable how little goes wrong during these so called shutdowns, I don't take Double_R at his word about this supposed fallout, but even in the case of people being upset (probably mostly federal employees who either love or hate Trump already) we already know how the nation feels.

A republican has gotten the majority vote for the first time in 20 years. Trump got it when before he didn't (allegedly). Three consecutive elections of gaining popular support.

If people thought things were going fine that would not happen. They're not going to blame the guy they just elected to slow down the madness for insisting on simplifying that madness down to "only" a hundredish pages.
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Yeah I meant national parks 
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Most people in USA when they hear "Shutdown"

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Yes, we all must fight against the evil that is America.
How exactly is defending America from its internal parasites to save it, consistent with a belief America is evil?
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He sees a dog infested with fleas and shoots the dog.

John Wick will be visiting.
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What a surprise, MAGA people don't give a shit.

"As long as it only effects other people, go ahead and defund the Government, maybe I'll get my double-wide sooner that way."






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@Mharman
Gee I didn’t know Trump could cause a shutdown under the Biden administration.
This thread is about current events; to be informed we have this thing called the news; you should try it sometime.

I know, I know, who needs new when we have conspiracies, news is fake, conspiracies are real.


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Yes, we all must fight against the evil that is America.
How exactly is defending America from its internal parasites to save it, consistent with a belief America is evil?
Oh pulease, deep state, fake news, conspiracy theories, that's how, pay attention.


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The elite government class had its time in the sun. The peons get a turn now.
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Oh pulease, deep state, fake news, conspiracy theories, that's how, pay attention.
Why do you think the government overspending in some places is a wild conspiracy and that they are perfect stewards of tax money and incapablenof making mistakes?
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Oh pulease, deep state, fake news, conspiracy theories, that's how, pay attention.
Why do you think the government overspending in some places is a wild conspiracy and that they are perfect stewards of tax money and incapablenof making mistakes?
Oh boy, conspiracy theories in the form of a question, that's not something you see every day...oh wait, yes, it is, every fucking day.

Why do you like it when you let aliens fuck you in the ass?
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@Greyparrot
The elite government class had its time in the sun. The peons get a turn now.
Be careful, if Trump sees you calling him a peon, he will sue you for defamation of character.


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Confirmed, the government uses space lasers to perfectly calculate expenditures.

Mystery solved.
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You can't get more peon class than a felon. You created the monster, now you get to play with him.
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@Greyparrot
You can't get more peon class than a felon. You created the monster, now you get to play with him.
Monster, how should I feel?

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You can't get more peon class than a felon. You created the monster, now you get to play with him.
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Yes, we all must fight against the evil that is America.
How exactly is defending America from its internal parasites to save it, consistent with a belief America is evil?
C'mon, diversity makes it evil, the poisoned blood of America makes it evil, carnage makes it evil, $3 a dozen eggs makes it evil, democracy makes it evil, only a fascist dictator can battle the evil that is America, only a Fascist Dictator can be our Savior.

Hallelujah, the trailer parks rejoice!
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@Sidewalker
Maybe stop being so evil?
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@Greyparrot
Maybe stop being so evil?
Hey, I'm an American, by MAGA definition that makes me evil, enemy within, deep state, and I even try to stay informed by reading fake news.

I am not a Trump supporter, that is the very definition of evil, better call in the military, Trump decreed that the opposition must die or be incarcerated.

Hail to the King, hallowed be they name, thy MAGA kingdom come, Trump's will be done!

Amen.
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Do you have anything to say about the other post I tagged you in, or are you going to cherry-pick?

Seriously. Prove to me this impending shutdown really matters.
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Do you have anything to say about the other post I tagged you in, or are you going to cherry-pick?
Post #42 was my response
Seriously. Prove to me this impending shutdown really matters.
There's a good chance MAGA folks will get their food stamps late.




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Most people in USA when they hear "Shutdown"

MAGA people when they hear "Shutdown".
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@Mharman
Gee I didn’t know Trump could cause a shutdown under the Biden administration.
The MAGA republicans control congress. They can refuse to raise the debt ceiling which can cause a government shutdown.

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They can refuse to raise the debt ceiling which can cause a government shutdown.
That would make Putin smile.