What role should the Catholic Church play in modern secular societies?

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This is just a fun topic to consider. Hopefully it promotes open conversation for athiests and theists alike. What role should the Catholic Church play in modern secular societies?
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Well, for them to their mind 'ideally I'd assume,
Acquire various forms of art and wealth for preservation and power purposes,
Use said wealth for charitable purposes towards all people,
Try to increase the population of people in the world that share their faith,
Try to encourage values in society that align with Catholic beliefs,
Try to encourage goodwill and peace in the world.
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They should talk with as much people as possible all over the world.
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They need to stick around and pay $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
To allllllllllllllĺlllllllllllĺllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllĺlllllllllll
The people that half the cath priest have umm, ill say "touched" 

I imagine there are alottttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
Of people times 10.
That haven't come forth yet with a story of when they got touched. 
And If you've been touched inappropriately ya gonna need some $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for that.
Right ? 
Well am i right ?
Roger that ten - four. 

Sooooo. 
They need to generate some more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. 
For stuff like that. 
Oh and they need cash for Jesus.
Why ? 

Ask me why they need cash for jesus. 
Go no. 
Well I'll tell you anyways

☆☆☆☆☆ JESUS FUCKING LOVES CASH  ☆☆☆☆☆

Again guys.
Am i right. 

 
So um yeah.
' kicks dirt. ' 


Cool. 


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To have it's conservative factions work in secret and sometimes in the open to  resist the quite obviously satanic influences on society such as leftism,  Islam and the Jews
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Jesus talked with many people. Why not?
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Jesus talked with many people. Why not?
There is no issue with this part. You can simultaneously talk to people and tell them to stop being such faggots while also working to get Opus Dei members on the Supreme Court or putting people in Joe Biden in office to sabotage the campaigns of people like kamala harris and win it for Maga republicans
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The Catholics have a great range of Sin removers.
My favorite being the confession booths. 
Why you could practically eat a kid for lunch,  the simply pop on down to a booth near you .  Do the back and forth. 
Fucking bless you my son.  
Then Finish it up with a body of christ flavored waffer 
Bobs ya fucking uncle.
Ya Insta shine.  

Powerful right ? 
You could really use one of those . 

I may invent
The sin arator 3000s  
Just ya basic Mobile sin booths. 
Anyway , coming to a town near you. 

Im thinking $25 to $32 
Eating a kid may occur  extra charges  butttt. 
$100 max and ya sin free. 
AI. Sin booth operators 

Fucking wankers
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I learned from anime that talking to people makes them like me or at least hate me a little less. Talking seems to be Trump's strategy too. He talked to many.
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The pope is the " closest " person / thats  human person  on earth to god. 
Sooooooo,  
I think we should keep him. 
But the rest of it just takes up space. 
So 
We want alllll the confession bootus and we will take the pope bloke. 
And his hats 

The Footcleaner 3000s

Oh and the pews.
We want allll of the pews.
Why?
Because they ard called pews. 
And pew sounds funny. 
Pew.
Pew
Just Filling up the atheist musium

Once we got the pope bloke we a set. 
Believe me 
Hes gonna taste so good.

Oh 
Did i just type that out loud  ?

So how much $$$$


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How much would you reckon one mght pay for like fun day out with the pope ?
You'd have to think no less then 20k. 

A Pope horse ride. 5k. 
Easy right. 

A pope footwash 5k.

How much to have the pope pass your house.  ?
Hey? 
Yes in the pope mobile fuck head. 
5k again. 

What would you do with the pope for the day ?

Get gods number from him. 

Mmm,  some cash there hey . 
Anyway .,   " pope dreams" 
What was the OP again. 
Thats right , the Catholic church. , what role should it have today like .
Shit i dunno .  


Pass. 

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This is just a fun topic to consider. Hopefully it promotes open conversation for athiests and theists alike. What role should the Catholic Church play in modern secular societies?
They should be a mediator in every human conflict and exercise the divine power they have inherited.
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should sins be outlawed? some people think for example that sodomy should be outlawed. historically, it was an outlawed practice. some old school catholics might want to outlaw the sins defined in their church, but progressive catholics or moderate ones might want to respect the autonomy of other people as long as the sin doesn't hurt other people. 
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should sins be outlawed? some people think for example that sodomy should be outlawed. historically, it was an outlawed practice. some old school catholics might want to outlaw the sins defined in their church, but progressive catholics or moderate ones might want to respect the autonomy of other people as long as the sin doesn't hurt other people. 
All kinds of sins are outlawed in the Bible. But because of the separation of church and state America is struggling to implement the commandments in the Bible.
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Every Christian religion has its job today. 
1.9 billion players on the Muslims team. 
2 billion play for the Christians .

Not that it means to much i don't think .
Buttttttt.
( it really fucking does guys. ) PM  me.  Cant talk here.  
Its just. 
Well. 

I prefer Christians over Muslims.  
Fuckin BAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM . 
( holy shit , i am allowed to say that . )   state ones preferences. 
Fuck it. 
Im a say it again. 

☆°▪•☆°▪•☆  I LIKE CHRISTIANS BETTER THEN MUSLIMS   ☆°▪•☆°▪•☆  

So yeah . Long and short . 
If a few major Christians groups cease to be. 
The numbers might resemble something like this. 
Muslims  =  1.7 billion.  
Christians  =  1.62 billion. 
So you can see whats happening there hey?
Correct. 
There would be more Muslims  ( see above )
1.7 of em 
And then see how many christians there are ? 
1.62 bill. 
And 1.62 is the lesser <   of the numbers there . 

That would make it that the Muslims are the biggest group in the world.   
And as i stated before.  
( don't deb. ) 

●□■●■   I LIKE CHRISTIANS MUCH MUCH MORE THEN THE MUSLIMS  ●■●■

( fuckkk he did it again ) 
GOOOOOOO.
THE  CHRISTIANS. 
yeah , yeah . 

Ok whatever.  
Hey see i used a  <   lesser then sign. 
Thank you . 
Thanks guys. 
I knew it would one day come in handy.
And it payed off today my friend's.  
Again. 
Thanks
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some people think for example that sodomy should be outlawed
Is deepthroat sodomy?
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And Yes i am aware i talked to myself in the 4th there. 
So.
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I prefer Christians over Muslims
Okay, but dont say that to muslims. When you are with muslims, tell them you prefer muslims. Tell people what they want to hear. Always works.
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Let me run a quick check on that for you shall i. ?

A biblical answer and a google. 
Or just biblical. 
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I thought sodomy was just the butt stuff, but now I am not sure.
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I think communities should encourage, discourage, community legislate against sins.
Which would be lacking much 'direct force,
Home Owners Association for instance, can't have me whipped if I paint my house a gaudy color.
But 'could exert influence, or fines in certain situations, such as a community where one agrees to laws before joining.

On a Federal Level however, I think I prefer the direction of the American Constitution.
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Yes ummm.
No. 
A throat aint classed as a sod.
And the biblical answer.  
Robert 10 : 34 .  The throat differs from the anus.

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Congratulations. 
Lemmy just WON the religion forum . 

I like you heaps  , i really do. 
Your sharp as a tak
But Your such a dorkkkkkkkk.

I well i think the homowners should do this with the guidance of the worlds adults .
On the federal  level  however 
If i was to paint my house a ' puts finger on his glasses. '
A gaudy colorrrrr ( arrr rubble rubble rubble) 
'the crowd angers' 

I mean. Just  Shut uppppp, 
Dork . 
No one even asked you. 


Kidding lemmy. 
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No offense taken.
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I think communities should encourage, discourage, community legislate against sins.
Which would be lacking much 'direct force,
Home Owners Association for instance, can't have me whipped if I paint my house a gaudy color.
But 'could exert influence, or fines in certain situations, such as a community where one agrees to laws before joining.

On a Federal Level however, I think I prefer the direction of the American Constitution.
You should at least respect the community you live in.
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Catholicism already plays a role in the Secular world. It has op shops. It provides assistance to the poor and the sick. It has hospitals, schools, and other services. 

The question in my mind is not whether it plays a role, it is whether it plays a beneficial role? 

And how does one determine that?  Do we use the utilitarian measure? A secular measure? Or do we use a non-Secular measure - such as the one Jesus used when he said "there is no one Good but God"? 

As a Presbyterian, I can acknowledge the history and good of the Catholic church in its early history. But I can also note its atrocities towards the Protestant Church and the Dissident Churches, let alone the way it treated the Orthodox.  

Our WCF labels the pope as the Anti-Christ.  And although I think the WCF is not absolutely correct here, the Catholic System is more polytheistic than it is montheistic.

And it's system is from my perspective flawed which has been exposed in many forms. Having said that, the Presbyterian System is also flawed and it has too been exposed as such.  No human system is perfect.

Still, I think the Roman Catholic church has a part to play in our world. It's not going away. It is far too large to die. Yet it may be true to say that is crumbling from within.  But that's another story.  
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With celibacy came benefits.

Catholic Clergy were renowned for stoutly promoting their love of children.

And Catholic Nunnery and Convent Workhouses are often credited with the introduction of the lesbian S&M scene.

If anything else we need the Catholic Church as defenders of morality.


Where's the candle sister.

It certainly does Mother Superior.
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Still, I think the Roman Catholic church has a part to play in our world. It's not going away. It is far too large to die. Yet it may be true to say that is crumbling from within.  But that's another story.  
The Catholic Church is mainly challenged by other Christian’s denominations and the Jews for introducing the concept of the Trinity. But it keeps the words of Jesus alive and the world guessing.