Proof of MAGA's Bad Faith

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@Sidewalker
Oh pulease, they have no principals whatsoever,
That's my point

They always try to justify their outrageous and unlawful actions by equating them to practically nothing done by their opponents.
Exactly. If they didn't have false equivalences they'd have no arguments at all
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it is completely understandable for a dad to pardon their son
Rape is common in USA prisons. USA is a true democracy who uses rape as punishment for crime. I thought Biden was crazy when he said he wont pardon his son. I thought he hates his son.
Not enough to see his son get raped in prison.
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OP proven yet again
As Biden proved DOJ is jailing opponents. You know Biden became Maga ever since the Kamala Koup. Deep state couped him.

Unlike Democrats, GOP has the capacity to forgive, especially if you are a victim of the deep state.

I am very much enjoying Biden's "parting gifts" to the party that fucked him over.
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Aren't you clearly Insinuating that maga are crying about this pardon when we all told you it is completely understandable for a dad to pardon their son?
No, I'm talking about how MAGA is orienting this pardon is so bad as a pretense to support Trump through whatever flagrant abuses of power he engages in. Which is remarkably stupid since Trump's pardons were way way worse. It underscores how fake republicans are. They're perfectly ok with abuse of power, all they're looking for is an excuse to celebrate it
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No, I'm talking about how MAGA is orienting this pardon is so bad as a pretense to support Trump through whatever flagrant abuses of power he engages in. Which is remarkably stupid since Trump's pardons were way way worse. It underscores how fake republicans are. They're perfectly ok with abuse of power, all they're looking for is an excuse to celebrate it
Remember what MAGA stands for. Make America Great Again. The end justify the means.
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a pretense to support Trump through whatever flagrant abuses of power he engages in.

Maybe if the (D)party didn't fuck over Biden, he wouldn't have declared the investigations to be "political"
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Maybe if the (D)party didn't fuck over Biden, he wouldn't have declared the investigations to be "political"
Biden took Trump’s approach calling it a Witch hunt.
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OP proven yet again
Did you think creating a banana republic would be free of consequences
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That video is from 6 years ago and bullshit. The left is literally doing some batshit crazy stuff. 

Take how they are supporting literal terrorists right now. If 9/11 happened again we wouldn't all be united like last time. Literally half the population would be on the side of the 9/11 hijackers
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They're perfectly ok with abuse of power, all they're looking for is an excuse to celebrate it
If one side literally only abuses power in response to abuses of power then what is a good strategy to end that?
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They're perfectly ok with abuse of power, all they're looking for is an excuse to celebrate it
If one side literally only abuses power in response to abuses of power then what is a good strategy to end that?

“Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

Power tends to corrupt: people in positions of power often abuse their power to do bad things. They become corrupted, or “morally compromised.”


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@WyIted
Did you think creating a banana republic would be free of consequences
You tell me, that's what Trump is attempting to turn is into now.

That video is from 6 years ago...
We've only continued down the same path

...and bullshit
How? Where is it wrong?

The left is literally doing some batshit crazy stuff.

Take how they are supporting literal terrorists right now. If 9/11 happened again we wouldn't all be united like last time. Literally half the population would be on the side of the 9/11 hijackers
A couple of college kids protesting is not "the left", nor is any of this relevant to the point.

If one side literally only abuses power in response to abuses of power then what is a good strategy to end that?
That's the whole point. The one side abusing power is the republicans, Because republicans are bad faith unprincipled hypocrites.

This pardon controversy is just the latest example. When Trump was president he pardoned everyone in his inner circle, including his son-in-law's father who was convicted of witness tampering after he hired an escort to seduce the witness, filmed the entire encounter, and then sent the video to the witnesses's wife to intimidate them from testifying. Trump also just named that same guy to be the next US ambassador to France.

Trump pardoned Roger Stone for his conviction after refusing to testify... about Trump's own actions. So he literally pardoned the guy who for illegally helping Trump.

He pardoned Steve Bannon after Bannon was caught flagrantly defrauding Trump voters.

The list goes on. But Biden Pardons Hunter and that's the abuse of power that republicans get to respond to? What? Are you on drugs?

This isn't a serious argument, it's an excuse. You guys always do this - pretend your actions are justified because the other side "did it first", meanwhile not only are you just flat out lying about who actually started it, but you pretend what the left did is remotely comparable to what you are arguing your already concocted permission slip in entitling you to do. It's pathetic. 

So to answer your question, if you really cared about this then instead of inventing fake justifications to do the same but worse, you would work with the other side to reform the system. We need to look at ways the pardon power can be restricted, and we need to find ways to codify into the law the independence of the justice department. Trump would never go along with something like that, because he never wanted that. All he wanted is the excuse he needs to do whatever he wants and claim it justified. That's why he and MAGA are celebrating this, it is (in their minds) the excuse they were looking for.
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@Double_R
This pardon controversy is just the latest example.
This is where you are lying. This is not a controversy, nobody cares and in fact many maga Republicans openly support Joe Bidens decision to pardon his son. There is zero controversy.

you pretend what the left did is remotely comparable to what you are arguing your already concocted permission slip in entitling you to do. It's pathetic. 
Trying to arrest a presidential candidate because he is a republican? The same way they did with Bush calling him a war criminal? The same thing the left literally tried to do with Netanyahu or any other conservative?


So to answer your question, if you really cared about this then instead of inventing fake justifications to do the same but worse, you would work with the other side to reform the system.
We don't care about it. All maga Republicans have supported Bidens decision but let's talk about the other premise you are working with. 

How exactly would you work with the cheating party to stop cheating LOL? This is like when you guys ask cops to investigate themselves LOL.


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If only there were a way in which the American people could decide which party should take the lead.

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If only there were a way in which the American people could decide which party should take the lead.
What's odd is we all literally agree thay it is understandable that Biden wouldn't want his son in prison and double R is like

"Why do you guys think this pardonnis so bad or controversial"

We don't that is literally something you would think if you only consume left wing media. I assume he watched CNN and they said Republicans were upset about it, and despite how often they lie to him he blindly believed it. 

All he had to do was just shoot me a PM and ask how MAGA Republicans feel and I would have told him, we were cool with the pardon. 

What kind of piece of shit wouldn't pardon their own son?

It's the same reason I think John McCains dad is a piece of shit for knowingly bombing an area he knew his son was held. Good men kinda put family firsr
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Yeah, I haven’t seen Republicans scandalized by this at all. We never believed the “no pardon for Hunter” promise in the first place! Instead, we are pointing and chuckling, as “the heathen” do when a holier-than-thou minister is caught with a hooker.
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Yep, it's simply the end of the fable of "the emperor with no clothes." 
People were not angry at him for being naked. They were smiling.

Just like Joe Biden smiled ear to ear after Kamala lost.

The only real angry people are those who were a part of the sham court of "pretentious nobles"
I suppose this is why x2R is projecting all this vitriol.
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As long as you have faith in MAGA, in your life, affecting as many as possible, exude the spirit of greatness .
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The kind that deems no worthy of pardoning regardless of the relation.
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@Double_R
Is MAGA hypocritical?  Yes.  Is Trump hypocritical?  Yes.  Is Christianity hypocritical?  Yes.

If Trump came out tomorrow and said he was god and his fast ear healing is proof and he was here to create Magdated Christianity (MAGA updated Christianity) where he decides what's in the religion, then MAGA people will adopt that branch of Christianity (no matter how unchristian it is; the label is all they need).

When the bible has hypocrisy in it (as it had for centuries), it's followers don't care; don't expect Magdated Christianity to be any different.

Getting angry at Magdated Christians for their religion is like getting mad at Muslims or Jews for theirs.

The only way to change a MAGA mind is to find instances of Trump advocating something that you support (which you can find examples of Trump saying to take people's guns without due process, you can find examples of him being pro choice, you can find examples of him even saying to build more cities (while he also hates cities for being left)).

You can use AI videos to make Trump say whatever you want (as long as you do a Trump accent).  Like, Wylted now no longer believes a zygote is a human being because Trump supports IVF.  You can make a YouTube channel that feels right wing but it isn't.  There are ways to make MAGA confused about what Trump believes.
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If Trump came out tomorrow and said he was god and his fast ear healing is proof and he was here to create Magdated Christianity (MAGA updated Christianity) where he decides what's in the religion, then MAGA people will adopt that branch of Christianity (no matter how unchristian it is; the label is all they need).
Cool story bro;

Now, imagine if Trump told the country to prepare for another round of Covid lockdowns while he set up his misinformation board to suppress free speech and started a hot war with Russia by launching American missiles into their homeland. Pretty sure Maga will tell Trump to kindly fuck off.

This is the story you will want AI to fabricate.
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This is where you are lying. This is not a controversy
Right, and Harris won the 2024 election.

That's just stupid, no serious response required.

Trying to arrest a presidential candidate because [the evidence overwhelmingly proves that he committed serious crimes]?
Fixed.

How exactly would you work with the cheating party to stop cheating LOL?
Reform the system so that cheating cannot occur. If the other party refuses then take the case to the ultimate authority; the voters. That's why democrats made such a big deal about democracy and the rule of law this past election - cause they *actually* care about those things. In the end they lost because too many Americans were brainwashed into thinking Trump was the obviously better choice to bring down the price of eggs.

"Why do you guys think this pardonnis so bad or controversial"

We don't that is literally something you would think if you only consume left wing media. I assume he watched CNN and they said Republicans were upset about it, and despite how often they lie to him he blindly believed it. 
I think that because I have eyes, ears, and an internet connection. It's been all over right wing media and right wingers have been arguing this since it happened. Are you really that incapable of thinking for yourself that you reflexively assume no one else can either?

All he had to do was just shoot me a PM and ask how MAGA Republicans feel and I would have told him, we were cool with the pardon. 
lol I didn't know Wylted from debateart is the designated spokesperson for the national republican party

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I think that because I have eyes, ears, and an internet connection. It's been all over right wing media and right wingers have been arguing this since it happened. Are you really that incapable of thinking for yourself that you reflexively assume no one else can either?
Literally every active conservative on the site said the pardon is a non issue for them. Also yes if I agree with somebody on something I assume they think like me. This is how I know exactly how you think. I used to be a liberal, so it's like arguing with a more retarded version of myself.
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lol I didn't know Wylted from debateart is the designated spokesperson for the national republican party
It doesn't matter. I am one so I know how we think and what my opinions are
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Now, imagine if Trump told the country to prepare for another round of Covid lockdowns while he set up his misinformation board to suppress free speech and started a hot war with Russia by launching American missiles into their homeland. Pretty sure Maga will tell Trump to kindly fuck off.
  1. With the lockdowns that did happen under Trump's rule, MAGA didn't get upset at him for it.  He blamed it all on a doctor that he didn't fire when he was in office.
  2. He said he wants to jail flag burners for a year.
  3. Trump wants war with Mexico (that could result in nukes going off)

MAGA doesn't care.
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Make A-holes Great Again!
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If only there were a way in which the American people could decide which party should take the lead.
It’s called elections.
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If that's true, then fine; give Harris the same grace when she didn't fire federal reserve inflation producers.

Trump could have abolished the lockdowns federally; he chose not to; MAGA didn't care.

My other 2 points you left untouched.