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@Lunatic
You good bro?
Albums Mafia: Track One (DP1)
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Reading. Gonna work on some full reads… not much to go off of, but we are low on time
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@AustinL0926
Ok so I ended up procrastinating a little because I don't really feel like playing mafia. Boring ahh game rn.
I think Austin is correct about anticlaim because I don't know what else it could be, if there is such a mechanic.
That's assuming there's anything at all... Cerulean didn't outright say there was such a mechanic in this game. Just that there may be.
Austin, what are your thoughts on the possibility of there being no such mechanic in this game?
I’ll give some basic reads at this point. I’ll leave Austin out of this since I already said I believe he’s town.
Casey - town lean. Like Austin, I think Casey’s play so far, in particular his reading back into Austin’s prior play to assist their townread, comes off as townie.
WyIted - null. The fluff posting aside, most of what I’ve seen so far has been buddying Austin, which makes some sense given how I’m reading Austin, but it stands as a little off. I think his responses to Austin read as town, though, hence the null read.
Mharman - slight town. A little lower effort than I’d expect to see from Mharman as scum, I think his posts also have a decently townie feel to them.
Pie - null. Food poisoning sucks, haven’t seen enough content from his posts to make a call.
Greyparrot - slight scum. I initially read his decision to out early as null, given that’s what he usually does, but his responses have me on edge. He said he was interested in seeing what people asked him, but hasn’t clarified what he was looking for. Details are still sparse and those that he has given don’t make a lot of sense. Maybe this is just GP continuing a trend of not being particularly helpful, but it comes off as a slap-dash fake claim. That being said, it’s a weird fake claim to come up with on the spot.
Earth - very slight town. His point about RVS isn’t a lot of reason to work with, but I don’t think he’d respond that way as scum. Mainly just a gutread.
Lunatic - null. Too little posting to read into him.
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@ILikePie5
He did tag Pie; idt he normally tags someone when he does that. Could be a "hey, I did what you asked, boss."It’s a play from when I was scum 3 games in a row lol
Could you clarify what you're talking about here?
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@Greyparrot
Why did you tag Pie specifically in your role claim?
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@Greyparrot
Also, what's with the scumread on Whiteflame?
I get the sense you are scumreading him, I want to know why.
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@Lunatic
VTL Lunatic for activity
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@whiteflame
Maybe this is just GP continuing a trend of not being particularly helpful, but it comes off as a slap-dash fake claim. That being said, it’s a weird fake claim to come up with on the spot.
I don't hate this idea from you. Tree Stump isn't particularly common, so it would likely be safe if a mafioso wanted to instaclaim.
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@Greyparrot
Here's an idea: Since you claimed your role, you might as well tell us your character and the justification.
Actually, I'm gonna hold off on my reads on a few people until I get answers from some people.
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@Mharman
Also, what's with the scumread on Whiteflame?
Parrot intuition.
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@whiteflame
Greyparrot - slight scum.
lulz
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@Greyparrot
I would really like to hear about more than intuition.
What do you think is causing your intuition to point to Whiteflame?
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@Greyparrot
So are you just not interested in playing the game at this point? Or is trolling how you plan to play?
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@whiteflame
I am just disagreeing. No need to get mad.
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@Mharman
What do you think is causing your intuition to point to Whiteflame?
Just a gut feeling.
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@Cerulean
I unvoted Pie
I'll be around tomorrow to give my thoughts. sorry, kinda tired rn. reads still at where they are yesterday, GP trending down a bit
Ok I’m tired as hell now. Spent too much time thinking. I’ll be brief. Was gonna withhold some details to test how people react but they’re gonna react regardless ig. Prolly don’t have time for these kinda experiments anyway.
Greyparrot- The early claim is normal for him. I think it’s weird he tagged Pie in particular (still want to know what strategy of GP’s you’re talking about here, Pie). I don’t like how he never gave a real answer on why he suspects Whiteflame, but the bigger problem is he never told me his character and justification. If you’re going to out your role at the start, why not give the character and justification? It would only help town decide if your claim seems legit or not. I don’t completely agree with Austin’s point that Tree Stump is a dumb fake claim for scum, nor do I think this game has to be role madness. We don’t know what scum has either. If Greyparrot is a Goon or Ninja, for example, claiming Tree Stump is no issue for him, since he would show no signs of activity.
On the flip side, I think mafia would want to avoid role claims like the plague (town as well tho tbh- so the game isn’t that much different from normal ones in this regard). The problem with using this argument to clear Greyparrot is that his meta is to claim, and even scum Greyparrot would know that.
Scum.
Pie- It should be noted that Greyparrot tagging Pie doesn’t outright incriminate Pie. If Greyparrot is scum and tagging someone, the misdirect is possible. I say this because I don’t see anything from Pie that really bothers me.
Null.
Austin - I really feel like he’s not considering the possibility of Greyparrot being scum enough here. For reasons I said earlier, he’s not really in the clear. His earlier FoS on Pie made a tiny amount of sense to me initially, but it’s not that easy to read… the whole game is inactive. He also said he expected Pie to engage with Greyparrot claim implied Pie didn’t… but Pie did?
His FoS may not be as much of an FoS though come to think of it. He did say in later post he wanted to see what happen.
That’s where my problems end. I don’t think Austin needs to tell us about anticlaim if he’s scum. Sure, he could be using it for towncred, but I disagree with Pie when he says he would townread anyone else for it. I would scumread anyone else- Austin is the only other person here who plays on MU I think. It wouldn’t be too hard for him to guess what in the game. I like his questioning of Wylted too. I like the random vote on Whiteflame, it makes his vote on Pie look better. He also misunderstood something Casey was saying, so I can see a similar screw up with Pie; Austin clearly wasn’t reading the DP all that well… we’ve all been there.
Slight town.
Whiteflame - So earlier I was gonna say that hated how he complained so much about not much happening and didn’t even vote someone for activity. It’s become at least a little outdated since he posted reads, which I do like. I think scum would love for this DP to end in an inactive no-lynch, so sitting back and doing nothing is kinda scummy. I give Whiteflame town points for his reads, and for pressing Greyparrot.
The early DP interaction with Casey looks like it could be scripted though. Remember how I floated the idea that scum could be TMIing about the setup with their behavior? They both soft claimed (I think Casey was soft claiming?) before Austin outted the anti claim mechanic. Idk about you guys, but I wasn’t sure what it could be and didn’t wanna claim at all, not even a softclaim on an album. Yet clearly Casey and Whiteflame felt it was safe.
How much stock do I put into his earlier explanation? initially I said not a whole lot (along with a null read) here, but as I’m thinking about Casey, I guess it checks out. See below.
I think a lot of this read also depends on how I feel about Greyparrot later.
Slight town.
Casey- I don’t like what happened above. I’m pretty sure Casey was soft claiming. I think scum may have a slight incentive to claim their album early on for some town cred- although to Casey’s credit she acknowledged that claiming albums shouldnt be free towncred this game.
That being said, everything else looks so genuine that it’s really hard to scumread her. I like her logic and the way she thinks. I give her bonus points for not immediately accepting Greyparrot’s claim (misread something related to this- my bad Casey). I also like how she’s even thinking about Austin’s logic.
I guess it is possible to overlook what softing could even do- perhaps that wasn’t fair of me on Whiteflame and Casey. I guess it doesn’t have to be scripted either, given that Casey was probably genuinely RVSing- I can see how she’d go for Whiteflame for the sake of the rhyme.
Slight town.
Wylted - I do feel he’s fluffing more than normal. I said he gives advice as town, but the one he gave was easier to fake than normal. His townread on Austin makes sense and he was one of the first to do so. Although I don’t understand the immediate trust in Austin’s thoughts on Pie. Post 33 is a little weird. I also think scum has an incentive to sit back and let the game go inactive this time around- Wylted hasn’t done anything outside of saying he townreads Austin. The other town of Wylted that I hinted at earlier is that he likes to jump in and say more about who he thinks is scum early on. Haven’t seen that one here yet.
Slight scum.
Earth- Same thing I just said about Wylted sitting back applies to Earth. I really haven’t seen much else though. The few early game posts he has made aren’t anything to go off of at all.
Null.
Lunatic- It applies to Lunatic as well, but less so since he did explain his inactivity… although i think he should be good to go soon, right?
Null.
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@Greyparrot
Ok that was not brief at all. Took me a while to type as well
Unvote VTL Greyparrot
I want to know your character and justification.
I’ll get back on Lunatic later.
*The other town tell of Wytled
EBWOP
Alternative scum teams outside of Greyparrot-Wylted could be
Greyparrot-Austin
Greyparrot-Pie
Austin-Wylted
Casey-Whiteflame
These would require me to be wrong on someone though. Also, the inactives are still floating around.
Casey-Wylted exists too ig
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@whiteflame
I don’t think Greyparrot is trolling. He’s always been a gut reader. To me the issue is that he didn’t give a character or justification for his claim, even after I asked.
We do need more activity from lu atic so I will jump on that bandwagon as well
VTL Lunatic
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@Mharman
Do you want to know my album?
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@Mharman
@WyIted
We do need more activity from lu atic so I will jump on that bandwagon as wellVTL Lunatic
literally about to sleep what you want, info? I can give input right now. lynch me if you need to, ill try to be active dp2.
can't*
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@Lunatic
Have a good rest noble sir.