Speaking of the UFO Hearing in the US Congress

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Well, as you know, this week a UFO hearing has been held in the US Congress and I kept thinking about what a former military official said at the end of that event.

This official showed a screenshot of a very old video about an alien interview saying that it was real. For the ones who don't know what video I'm talking about, I put the link to it.


I remember having watched this video in the news at the end of the 90s, it was amazing when it went out but not enough to say it was legit. You know, people demand categorical evidence to believe in something. Now that a whistleblower confirms the veracity of the video I think we can talk about it without the fear of mockery. This alien is one of those called the greys, it's not as evolved as other alien civilizations but they're defenitely more advanced than human beings in technology.

According to some contactees the earth is a sort of laboratory where human beings are the experiment, so it's forbidden for other alien civilizations to get into the earth without permission. To gurantee that the experiment is doing well the earth is being look over by the aliens that seeded the human being in the earth, those aliens are very similar to us. So, apparently these grays got into the earth without permission, causing that the vigilantes would take them down. The vigilantes were supossed to clean up the scene but they left it like this on purpose because the alien plan to unveil the existence of extraterrestrial life was already on track. You must know that as this is an experiment, the aliens can't "wake us up" all of a sudden, it should be little by little.

Anyway, I hope we can discuss about it since we're pretty close to the declassification of the alien files. Trump already mentioned something about it in Joe Rogan's podcast. He said that there was a fierce refusal to give up that kind of information, pointing to the security department which to my knwoledge controls the arms industry. If it's so, Trump is under serious threat as Putin said.
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If aliens plan to destroy us, they are too late. We have already destroyed ourselves.
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OMG, is IlDiavolo really Fox Mulder?
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Hey, FLRW. Hope you're doing well.

You're going to make it, dude, no matter how old you are. Don't doubt it.
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We have already destroyed ourselves.
we didn't destroyed ourselves. What the hell are you talking about?
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To gurantee that the experiment is doing well the earth is being look over by the aliens that seeded the human being in the earth
Why is there so much evidence that our form of life evolved on this planet?

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Why is there so much evidence that our form of life evolved on this planet?
Who said that? The fucking scientists? I remember you opening a thread about fucking scientists appealing to authority. So...

The aliens say they seeded all form of life in this planet and in the case of humans they accelarated the evolution introducing new human species. That could explain the large leap to the current human species in a short time.

I think I already said it in another thread. Through this "experiment" the aliens want to get a self sufficient human race that don't destroy themselves. If they see a human race start destroying themselves (nuclear war), they "reset" the experiment by generating natural catasthrophes (the deluge) and saving the savable (seperating the wheat from the chaff). Then they put the saved humans back in the planet to start over, introducing other human race that can change the previous genetic traits. The current human is the product of the introduction of a human race they call the adamic race. 

I think if the previous human civilizations that are buried somewhere are found we can prove this alien argument. 
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Why is there so much evidence that our form of life evolved on this planet?
Who said that? The fucking scientists? I remember you opening a thread about fucking scientists appealing to authority. So...
I'm not appealing to authority, I'm appealing to evidence. If you think they're lying about everything from geological stratification to genetics then there is nothing to do but do the experiments yourself.


The aliens say they seeded all form of life in this planet and in the case of humans they accelarated the evolution introducing new human species.
This plan is a billion years old?


Through this "experiment" the aliens want to get a self sufficient human race that don't destroy themselves.
Doesn't this imply they destroy themselves? If they didn't and they're related to us then what are they trying to improve?
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There's a lot of "human ethnocentrism" when discussing "aliens"

We also tend to lose perspective of the vastness of time and space by wrongly thinking 100 years is a meaningful time span, or 1 light year is a meaningful distance.
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We also tend to lose perspective of the vastness of time and space by wrongly thinking 100 years is a meaningful time span, or 1 light year is a meaningful distance.
I don't think most people gain that perspective in the first place. They know intellectually that warp drive is somehow needed but I don't think they have any inclination about the kind of power you would need to send a message from our system to another system so that it could be picked up by a boom box radio, nor the insane accuracy (and collimation) that would be required to focus a beam onto a planet in another star system.

At the same time the stars are old and intelligent life is resilient.

The idea of persons traversing the distance between stars may be impossible but the idea of information doing so via contact-probes is not.


The conclusions of logic and the intuition of average people (as informed by popular sci-fi in most cases) are very different and this leads to many people trusting intuition that is wrong.


There's a lot of "human ethnocentrism" when discussing "aliens"
Yes, again it's a situation where the underlying complexity is inaccessible to common intuition.

What else would aliens look like but humans? Well the answers are nearly unbounded. If they did look like humans that would be 1/100,000,000,000 *made up number.

Assuming no common ancestry.

and of course aliens in TV shows must be played by humans. Some people are aware of how absurd this is but most are so "inside the box" that they see klingon ridges or big black eyes on a grey and think "oooh so alien".

Even when writers try to branch out and be more "alien" they tend to simply expand the copy-pasting from human to life on Earth in general. Bug aliens, foxy aliens (furies appreciate the effort), tentacle octopus aliens!

As if mimicking any life form on Earth is any more likely than the other?

An alien preying mantis is just as unlikely as an alien humanoid.

Of course they'll have bodies and there will be chemistry going on, and there will be an Earth creature that is most similar, but those similarities will on average be extremely shallow and fundamental. Bilateral symmetry for example, probably exists in many alien biospheres because there aren't that many options and symmetry of some kind will be universal.


So I'm saying even with the imaginations about aliens aren't anthropocentric they're terrocentric (Earth centered) or the aliens are inexplicably obsessed with Earth or humans.

When these whistleblowers or people who claim to have an inside scoop from talking with aliens have these stories, at the very least I expect the grand truth they give to fit the full body of evidence.
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I'm not appealing to authority, I'm appealing to evidence. If you think they're lying about everything from geological stratification to genetics then there is nothing to do but do the experiments yourself.
The evidence says there has been a large leap from a human race to another one somewhat different in no time. Scientists are looking for the missing link but there is nothing missing, I'm afraid.

I'm not saying, though, that evolution can't happen, it certainly can. What I'm saying is that evolution in the earth had a lot of help of the aliens because it's an experiment.

This plan is a billion years old?
I don't know. Maybe.

I'm describing all what I know grosso modo. I think the aliens will give the deails when they show up.

Doesn't this imply they destroy themselves? If they didn't and they're related to us then what are they trying to improve?
The aliens that seeded the human beings are stuck, they can't evolve any further. I don't know the details, what I know is that they've evolved focusing so much on the rational side of the species, so they got stuck.

With this experiment, they're trying to understand how to move ahead. They're trying to keep the human being evolving without getting rid of the emotions. That's why you will find the word "love" in every alien message. They want the human being evolve with "love". I'm not sure what the fuck love means for them but according to them "love" can make the human being a very fucking incredible machine because this is what our bodies are, a biological techonology. If we evolve as they expect we will have surpassed them in power so to speak. Jesus, aka the Christ, is probably one of the few human beings that reached that goal, but I don't know more about it.

What I also know is that in order to evolve very quickly they created the human being with a great deal of reptilian genes which can explain our unmanageable urge to compete and win. According to them, the reptilian genes make us look for power so badly. That can explain why the previous civilizations ended destroying themselves.
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This plan is a billion years old?
I don't know. Maybe.
If we're a version of them then their biotech is the same as ours which means either all life on our planet is (which is of one system) derived from life on their homeworld or they derived from Earth (this is their homeworld).

If it's the former, and they seeded it, that means their plan is as old as the oldest life on Earth and that means it's a billion years old. That's inexplicable patience.

What we would expect to see is the sudden appearance (in geological terms) of a complete ecosystem in relatively recent times, like a million years ago tops. Why would they wait a thousand times longer than they needed to?

Thats 999 million years of waiting around just for a human-like (like them) creature to appear, preprogrammed into the DNA or not.

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"Time is relative" - Albert Einstein
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I'll grant you that there are ways to make the time go by. Maybe they can store their consciousness. If nothing else they can just fly near the speed of light for a while.

That wouldn't be a rational thing to do though. The universe would still age, and there is a time limit. That's 999 million years of entropy build up sacrificed for nothing. 999 million years less for their perfected humanity to enjoy the cosmos before heat death.