Trust the "Experts"

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but he had diabetes, but he kept it in check. 

Lol, that's not how co-morbidities work. Good try.
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The Misconception of Diabetes and COVID-19 Risk
Some people with diabetes, a disease that affects the body’s ability to produce or use the hormone insulin to reduce glucose (sugar) in the blood, may be concerned about being at higher risk of getting COVID-19. However, Dr. Vakharia points out that this is a misconception.
“We do not believe that people with diabetes are more likely to get COVID-19 than the general population,” says Dr. Vakharia. “They are, however, at risk for more severe outcomes, based on what we have been learning so far from research studies. We know from our experiences with other viral illnesses that patients with diabetes also tend to have more severe reactions to those illnesses.”
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“They are, however, at risk for more severe outcomes, 

like death...lolzy
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“We do not believe that people with diabetes are more likely to get COVID-19 than the general population,”
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“We do not believe that people with diabetes are more likely to get COVID-19
Who gives a crap about increased chances of "getting it." Like omfg duh...diabetes doesn't make you breathe in more of the virus....

like it even matters as AI said 99% of us have been exposed to some variant by now.

The rest of your clip claimed they died more when they got it at the same rate as everyone else...that's what a co-morbidity is.

You lose.

Your IQ is extra low today

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The diabetes had nothing to due with his death. He died from a heart attack. 
New research shows COVID-19 infections increase the risk of heart attack, stroke, and death, in some cases doubling the likelihood of major cardiac events in the 3 years following infection. 
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The diabetes had nothing to due with his death
According to your source it did.

“They are, however, at risk for more severe outcomes, based on what we have been learning so far from research studies. We know from our experiences with other viral illnesses that patients with diabetes also tend to have more severe reactions to those illnesses.”

I'd say death is a severe reaction.

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So you agree that Lamb should have had the Covid-19 vaccine?
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Well, Marcus Lamb's Daystar TV called vaccines a "sin against God" and the "most dangerous thing your child could face".
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This lady will likely be replaced within 4 years due to diabetes.

Hail Hydra.

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I've often ranted about the appeals to authority as often expressed "Trust the experts" or "Trust the science".

While I've been absolutely correct in those rants and in fully dismissing appeals to authority within unscoped debate, I don't think I've put it as succinctly as RFK does here:

Put all our faith in the technocrats. That's why this mantra of "trust the experts". Trusting the experts is not a feature of democracy, it is not a feature of science. It's a feature of religion, it's a feature of totalitarianism, but it's absolutely anathema to science and democracy.
To say trusting the experts is tantamount to religion is either a ploy to manipulate people or it's just breathtakingly stupid.

First off all, trust isn't black or white. There are all degrees of trust one can put into the conclusions of others, so to automatically assume that the level of trust we must be asserting is that of infallibility (which is what religion is) is a strawman at the outset.

Second, everyone puts some level of trust in the expertise of others because it's not avoidable. Unless it's what you do for a living, no one is going to put on a lab coat and study samples to tell if COVID is real, no one is going to perform their own studies to tell if the food they're eating is healthy, no one decides to become an expert in nuclear physics before deciding whether they support the building of a new nuclear power plant.

No organization can function without relying on the expertise of those within the organization. I am considered a subject matter expert in many areas of my job, so my boss will not make a decision regarding certain matters without seeking my input first. That's not some appeal to authority fallacy, it's common sense.

Our personal experiences make up a small fraction of what we know about the world, nearly everything else we know came from someone else in some form or another. You cannot be an educated individual without trusting what others have said, so the question isn't whether you should trust people with expertise but what processes you should run through and what standards should be applied earn your trust. And within that process is the common sense notion that having experience in a field makes you more likely to be correct about the conclusions you draw within that field.

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Well stated.
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You cannot be an educated individual without trusting what others have said,
Wrong.

You cannot be an educated individual without questioning what others have said,

Any idiot can trust.
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You can't question smart people that know a lot more about a subject than you do.
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You can't question smart people that know a lot more about a subject than you do.
It's clear you have never done so.


You never dared to question that expert either.
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You believe in God, right?
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"You can't question smart people that know a lot more about a subject than you do."

rofl.
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What do you know about Quantum Mechanics?
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"You can't question smart people that know a lot more about a subject than you do."


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Actually, RFK didn't beat a brain worm, it ate half his brain. That is when he became a Trumper.
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"You can't question smart people that know a lot more about a subject than you do."


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I'm answering your question because I have been told all my life that that I am smart and your question on thought process intrigues me. I never get bored of learning new things. That is why I love DA so much, I learn new things on this site everyday. Being smart doesn't mean that you know about every or even a lot of things or have the time to pursue all of the things you'd like to know about.
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"You can't question smart people that know a lot more about a subject than you do."
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OMG, you are a bot. Russian bot? Oh, ok, a Republican bot.
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"You can't question smart people that know a lot more about a subject than you do."
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unless you're an expert in virology, you must appeal to authority at least as much, but actually more than, someone who trusts consensus. we listen to our doctors and to consensus scientists. you appeal to some schmuck you heard somewhere, maybe after watching two half baked YouTube videos? if you ain't an expert and you appeal to someone who supports your biases, you are much more appealing to authority.