Oh yeah earth is probably town too
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@Lunatic
Sorcerer I can see having some mechanic where mafia can activate the ball and kill its holder though or something like that.
That's interesting I suppose, but I'm not really sure that makes a lot of sense for the mafia tbh. What's the point of doing that instead of just targeting someone for the NK directly?
Personally, I think that Luna is 99% likely to be town. He's a confirmed Messenger, and I can't see a mafia having a role like that. Maybe in a game with lots of players, but not in one with only two mafia players. I feel the same way about Owen's role tbh. Technically I suppose he and Banana could be the mafia team, except that I don't believe Pie would make them the team, and I've been townreading Banana so far. For me, that just leaves Earth and Moozer.
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@Earth
@Moozer325
You two seem like the two most likely candidates for lynching. Anything you have to say?
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@Owen_T
Alright, here’s my case.
First things first I think I’ll go ahead and outline my PoE pool. I have it down to Banana, Casey and Owen. Luna and Earth confirm each other and mafia messenger/self watcher seems pretty far fetched. I don’t have any reason to actually sus Banana, but Popular can be used as a scum role, so even though she’s confirmable I’ll still put her in PoE. We still don’t know much about how Owen’s enchantress role works, for instance if the crystal ball even does anything. I think it could go either way. This is probably going to be my hottest take, but I think Kingmaker could actually be an interesting scum role if it’s needed so that you can’t use it on your scum-buddy. It is pretty unorthodox, but it also definitely seems like it could work to me, so I’ll keep Casey in the pool.
I’m still a little confused as to why a unCCed doctor is getting lynched, but I’ll put forward my case anyways. First, like I mentioned before, I’m the only protective role in the game, and I know Pie isn’t a bastard mod, so I feel like this should be all I need. I have seen people making behavioral claims as to why I seem scummy, but 1. I have been pretty active these last few DPs (and it’s really weird to lynch on activity dp3) and 2. The mistake I made about my character being in the Rayja Shaba/Lok Shaba is perfectly on-brand for me if you’ve played with me before. It’s not indicative of scum is what I’m saying, it’s just a mistake I made, (which happens a lot).
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@Casey_Risk
That's interesting I suppose, but I'm not really sure that makes a lot of sense for the mafia tbh. What's the point of doing that instead of just targeting someone for the NK directly?
Mafia feels kind of under powered this game. Other than the janitor no one has really claimed to be roleblocked or anything wierd. Maybe it’s not a kill but in activation something bad happens or all townies who held it lose their vote or something. Idk spit balling. It is just a wierd role I’ve never seen before and doesn’t really serve a purpose.
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@Lunatic
It is just a wierd role I’ve never seen before and doesn’t really serve a purpose.
That's true, but given that it's so rare, I feel like it would more likely be in its normal version, which would make it a benign town role.
Also, I don't understand why everyone has been saying that Earth is role confirmed? Lunatic literally sent him a message last night, of course he would know that he visited him.
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@Earth
Earth, what message did Luna send you?
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@Casey_Risk
I outted the fact that he visited me before he said so.
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@Earth
I outted the fact that he visited me before he said so.
Okay, and that means nothing given that he literally sent you a message, did he not? Am I missing something here? What message did he send you?
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@Casey_Risk
It's was just a short message of him saying Hi and that he's Lunatic.
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@Earth
It's was just a short message of him saying Hi and that he's Lunatic.
Okay, so you knew he visited you before he said so. So you're not actually confirmed.
I'm sorry, it's not that I particularly scumread you right now, it's just that you're in my PoE and I feel like you should be in others' as well.
Wow, why is this thread so dead?
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@iamanabanana
Did you confirm with Pie if your role disables at MYLO?
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@Earth
My role does not work at MYLO or LYLO
Ana confirming me at the beginning confirms her though.
Earth is at the top of my list right now.
I been too tired lately, but I don't know if Owen is telling the truth about his role.
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@Earth
I been too tired lately, but I don't know if Owen is telling the truth about his role.
But if he's lying, that would mean Banana is also lying about having received the crystal ball. Do you really think Owen and Banana are the scum team?
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@Casey_Risk
What I am saying is that the crystal ball might not do what Owen is saying.
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@Earth
What I am saying is that the crystal ball might not do what Owen is saying.
I guess it's possible, though I still am not quite convinced.
In any case, I think a VTNL might be the right move today. We would have to make the right decision two days in a row, but at least we could glean some more information from whoever gets NK'ed. Thoughts?
I support that idea.
I just want to see where everybody is at, anyone want to share their reads?
Currently, everyone seems very town to me, so everyone is in my POE. But with my inexperienced opinion, Ana and Casey are at the bottom of my list.
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@Casey_Risk
@Owen_T
Yeesh, at this rate well still be playing by next Saturday. Anyways, I don’t think VTNL is a good idea. This late in the game we don’t really end up learning much more from the NK. I can’t really see what’s going to be accomplished by waiting, but if you make a good enough case you might be able to convince me.
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@Moozer325
Well, to be honest with you, by this point in the game I usually have at least one person that I feel quite confidently is scum, but I don't really feel that way at this point. If I were to guess who the scum team is, I'd probably go with you and Earth, but even then I don't feel great about that behaviorally speaking. It's mostly just a PoE thing. Though, if I had to actually vote for someone today, I'd probably go with Earth tbh. It's mostly just a gut read, but I also really don't like how he claimed to have actually been role confirmed when he wasn't.
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@Casey_Risk
I get that, and I’m basically at the same place with scum reads, but I still don’t think waiting another DP would actually change anything. IMO it’s just better to lynch today, seeing as we won’t gain much info by waiting.
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@Moozer325
I get that, and I’m basically at the same place with scum reads, but I still don’t think waiting another DP would actually change anything. IMO it’s just better to lynch today, seeing as we won’t gain much info by waiting.
Yeah, fair enough. Who is at the top of your list, personally?
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@Casey_Risk
I'm still between Banana, you and Owen. I explained it a few posts back.
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@Moozer325
How do you still suspect Banana? She seems very town to me.
Well I guess from your perspective there is still the banana + me scum team possibilty so nevermind.