God sending you to die is totally justified.

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According to the scripture, God is just.

He send you to the lake of fire for your unbelief while saving anybody that has murdered, raped or touched a child in their pleasing belief is saved is just and perfect.

God is not a murderer according to us. God has never justified abortion.

He is totally justified in extinguishing babies or children. 

We can totally agree our ways, our thoughts are not his.

He is just because he'll forgive you.

Is this your basis to be an antitheist or misotheist?




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God sending you to die is totally justified
Its not the death which I rebel against. Its the life which I rebel against. Its the suffering which I object.
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Damn I could be a poet.
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A GOD has never instructed anything about anything.

Though some old geezers supposedly met a GOD in private.

And hey presto, a list of instructions.

No mention of abortion or touching kids though.

Just, leave my missus alone and don't fiddle with my ox or my ass.

Handily presented on a lump of rock.

At the time, Mr Omni clearly hadn't thought about ink or a handier piece of paper.

Nor a photocopier.


And for sure, take the word theist and suffix or prefix to suit one's fancy.

Me, I'm an acrobatitheistaphobe.

I have a very disturbing somersault reaction to organised religion.
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According to the scripture, God is just.
Yes.

He send you to the lake of fire for your unbelief while saving anybody that has murdered, raped or touched a child in their pleasing belief is saved is just and perfect.
Dumb reasoning. God lets people go to Hell because they want to go there rather than spend time with a holy eternal God. 


God is not a murderer according to us. God has never justified abortion.
True.

He is totally justified in extinguishing babies or children. 
God doesn't agree with people taking the lives of others without the proper and lawful authority. 

people destroyed in Noah's flood were killed lawfully. It was a flood. Who controls the weather? 

We can totally agree our ways, our thoughts are not his.

that's true.

He is just because he'll forgive you.
no he is just because he is just. He forgives those he wants to forgive. Typically those who have repented of their sins. 

Is this your basis to be an antitheist or misotheist?
nope. 
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Boss.  ' tips hat ' 

Nice post man. 

( God has never instructed anything about anything  ) 
End of fucking story hey Zed. 

Listening to that debate the other night. 
They kept saying things that " god says " and  stuff....



Im a guessing 
When " they "  say things that god says and shit, i think they are referring to what is written in the bible book.
Soooooo. 
I think Zed . 
Me thinks that god did that bible book. 
And like he talks threw that. 

Imagine if they could half prove that. 
God had someth8ng to do with a bible.

Actually 
I have seen a flaming bush once or twice . 
And ive tryed " communicating " with it but the bush said nothing.  


But yeah. 

God aint ever said shit. 
Fuck , i have to now say ...   
( I THINK. ) 

I thinky god hasn't said shit.   ( nudge nudge ,,, wink fucking wink . ) 

Good week Zed. 


 


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Who could ever possibly guess what it is that they might make there god tell them next. 
 
And thus lies the danger 
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Biologic Life

Born, live a while, then die.

Of course there are the immortal jellies that revert to a polyp and sort of reborn.

Maybe it was Jelly Fish that humans ate in the Biblical times in hopes that they to would be be reborn.  LINK
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Is forgiving of sins not just of God?
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This is why im saving my  (   1 BORN AGAIN CARD   ) 

Getting ( BORN AGAIN ) toats deletes allllllllll ya sins. 
I'll be playing mine at approx the age of 75 ish. 
Until then , im free to eat kids. 

Sooooooo
Dont get  " BORN AGAIN  "  until you need to. 

Actually dont bother with religion until you sense death. 
Then at the very last sec. 
Except jesus as ya lord and sav . .
Get born again. 
And maybe say acouple of allah akbars.

God also accepts $$$$$$$$$ cash  $$$$$$$$. 

A combination of these should have you " living the good life "  
Thats After ya die.
You know what i fucking mean. 


Good game .
Good game.  

 


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Thanks Deb.


Yep, people keep saying stuff as if they know something we don't.

And we keep telling them that we don't know exactly the same stuff that they don't know.

But they keep on and on.

GOD this,

And GOD that.

But all that they've got is a book that some blokes cobbled together a while back.

Yep, burning bushes...WTF.

What's wrong with hello Moses and how are you today?

Nope, burning bushes...What sort of omni-sensible creator does that?

OK...Perhaps he was having a daft laugh.

Perhaps GODDO likes scaring old men in the wilderness.

Though...Methinks that Old Moses was regularly of his trolley on some substance or another.


Skippy the Bush Kangaroo...Now there's a Aussie euphemism.

Did they ever mention Australia in the Bible.

I'm pretty sure that Wales didn't get a mention.

So who collected the Koala's and put them on the Ark?

And the Penguins.


Good day Bruce.
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As soon as i seen the word skippy , i instantly started the tune in my head.
Nice. 

Skippy the bush kangaroo. 
Old Skip could talk.  
I have a book on skippy also. 

Id listen to skip. 
Id follow his commands. 
Omniskipp.
In skipp we trust. 
Skip has seen a lot of flaming bushes ill tell you. 

That Noahs bloke job resume / references would of been so fucking impressive. 
A jack of all trades hey.  From bloddy boat builder to  veterinarian.  
He would have over 500 years of experience in many a occupation.  
His sooooo over qualified.  

I paid $180 bucks to have a old parrot of mine ummm,  sexed once.
As its near impossible to know if they are male or female. 
Anddddd they are only male or female. 
Noah on the other hand , he fucken knows.  

He knows what sex Eels are. 

He knows alllll the animals sexual oreantation 
Because.  
A homosexual koala Zed. 
I shit you not butttttt, 
It looks EXACTLY like a non homosexual koala im not fucking kidding. 

So Again,,, 
Who knows? 
Noah fucking knows thats who knows. 

If only he did a book hey ? 
Unfortunately  more then likely he would of been illiterate. 
But he knew his shit. 

If god didn't talk to noah , he would never of belived in the nonsense. 

Actually 
Two smartest christians to of ever lived where probably Darwin and Noah .
Ha 
Ha. 
Thats funny. 
Picture them talking about the animals. 
Ha, ha. 
Oh and boats.

WTF.    I think ive just found a link with them two.  

Boats and animals.  
Oh and incest. 

boats made for the animals.
boats named after a animal.  

Anddddd 
They both 100%  know the origin of alllll the species also.  


They would of been the best of pals. 


Who's the smarter? 
 
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Is forgiving of sins not just of God?
Only God can forgive sins.  But he is not obligated to forgive sins where there is no repentance.  And he can't forgive sins before repentance has taken place. 

Furthermore, just because God forgives someone who has repented doesn't mean that humans can't punish that person for the offence they committed. 

This is why in the Bible, it talks about both forgiveness and punishment.  
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I think your answer is yes , to the question, bottomline.
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I think God is JUST. I think that God is also superfair at times.  He gives grace to the undeserved and mercy to those who don't deserve it. 
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Yes he is just as the scripture says.
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Dont get  " BORN AGAIN  "  until you need to. 

Constantine didn't covert to Christianity until he was on his deathbed, Deb. He must have felt he needed to..... just in case.
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So GOD is only superfair at times?

Which implies, that at other times GOD is a superarsehole.

Sounds more like human behaviour to me Trade.
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Why would Noah need to rescue Eels?

They live in the sea Deb.


Paying $180 to sex a parrot sounds like an Aussie euphemism to me.

Was the full sex or just a blow job?


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So GOD is only superfair at times?

Which implies, that at other times GOD is a superarsehole.

Sounds more like human behaviour to me Trade.
Wow! I didnt realise your logic was so bad.  But thanks for reminding us all. 

Being superfair doesn't mean at other times he is a super.......@#$%.

God is just and holy. And good always. He justly punishes people for their sins. And he has mercy on others.  It is fair to punish people for doing wrong. It is superfair to some to give them mercy.  It would be fair to let everyone receive punishment. But it's nice that God is superfair to some. 

That can be you too by the way.  In fact Jesus put it this way. 

For God so manifested his love in this way. He sent Jesus into this world, so that all those who believe in him will not die but receive life. 

Hence, for those who believe, they will be treated superfairly.  He will give them mercy. Not because they earned it - but because they recognised that they don't.

The rest of humanity, think God is a super @#$% - and so they think they DESERVE mercy if its on the table. Hence, they'll never believe. And then they will receive what is fair and just in the circumstances.  Of course, they will argue and quibble - what else would you expect? But that's life and death isn't it? A matter of knowing that we are the sum of our choices.  
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At times.

You said it trade.

So implications are what they are, and therefore logical to assume.


Not that I think that Middle Eastern fantasy gods ever existed.