THe big bang happened in nature, so it can't be supernatural. It can be singular, but we don't know that that's the case. "Whatever ignited it"? Can you explain?
The Big Bang's origins did not have a natural origin as we know understand natural. It supposedly had a supernatural origin.
The Universe requires three things:
Matter
Time
Space
Matter was what the Big Bang or the Singularity contained so it wasn't there before.
Time started at the Big Bang. This is backed up by famous scientists including Einstein.
Space didn't exist because that was the end product of the Big Bang.
So, we had none of the fundamental natural building blocks for any type of existence at the origins of the Big Bang.
Time started at the Big Bang, so by definition there was no before the Big Bang.
The Big Bang in of itself is a supernatural theory, of the origins of the universe. And the majority of the evidence leads to it.
That's not what the laws of nature tell us. It's our experience so far, but we have seen amino acids spontaneously synthesize in several different experiments, As you are aware, amino acids are the precursor to proteins, these are the building blocks of life. And besides, life only has to come from non life once. Again though, how does this mean gods exist?
There is so much fundamentally wrong with that.
Science has not even been able to recreate RNA. In order to be able to produce any type of life, you need RNA. Once you figure that out, its a billion steps more to figuring out life. But we haven't even gotten close to RNA yet. Not even close.
RNA is very unstable. In order for it to be properly produced, it needs an environment where the decomposition process is slower than the life-giving process.
And RNA once it generates spontaneously only once, it doesn't' remember how to do it again, so no it doesn't have to happen just one time. It has to happen multiple times with no help, and no guiding process or learning process. And RNA requires it to be consistent in order to stay alive.
So no, it actually has to happen multiple times a day, continuously, and constantly in order to sustain only RNA. Thats not even talking about Cells or DNA. And that's not even diving into the smaller parts of the system and how impossible those get too.
And I never said this means God exists. Please don't misrepresent my points.
I told you, I'm open to the possibility. Sadly, so far it seems like your only supporting argument is one from incredulity or complexity, neither of which are compelling.
But you have to hold yourself accountable too. If you want me to provide rational evidence as to why I believe in God, I also expect you to provide the same for your philosophy. Just like I can't say," Well I don't understand how God works, so I just have to trust it", you can't say," Well I don't know all about science so I just have to trust it."
Because by extension, maybe they won't want to harm me, and maybe they'll look out for me if I look out for them. That's how societies work, and in fact how they form.
Why specifically is society forming a good thing though? Why is societal progression good?
There is no standard. It's something a community agrees upon.
So there is a standard. A community standard.
I have a question. You said "yes I do" in response to my question do you use "what would a god or gods do" when making moral decisions. Why would gods, who so far it seems we're only ready to ascribe the "ignition" of the big bang to, care what you do?
Well, that's going into my specific religion. And that's a conversation for another time.
