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Luna is at L-1 right now. If you want to wait to see if he turns up, that's fine, but if he doesn't, we should honestly just lynch him imo.
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Lunatic (4/5) - whiteflame, Pie, Casey, Owen

The day ends 11pm EST or 8 hours from now.
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@Casey_Risk
Luna is at L-1 right now. If you want to wait to see if he turns up, that's fine, but if he doesn't, we should honestly just lynch him imo.
I’ll wait for like an hour before to lynch him. I don’t like voting people based on inactivity alone but because he was online but didn’t post is why I’m sussing him.
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Totally forgot about this game. I am 476 AD
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1. JoeBob - 64 AD - 1x Vigilante 
2. Casey - 53 AD - Vanilla
3. ILikePie - 50 to 40 BCE - ???
4. Vader - 530 to 540 AD - ???
5. Owen_T - 27 BCE - ???
6. Lunatic - 476 AD - ???
7. Wylted
8. Whiteflame - 1450 to 1460 AD - ???
9. Moozer - 80 AD - Alignment Checker

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@WyIted
Suffice it to say that I’m not willing to lynch Luna based on that claim. I really want to go over the existing claims when I get a chance, but absent any claims that stand out to me then, I’m willing to lynch WyIted. Being completely inactive as he’s been this entire DP is enough reason, so unless he hops on and posts a claim that changes my mind (and I do need a full claim at this point):

VTL WyIted
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Lunatic (2/5) - Casey, Owen
Wylted (1/5) - whiteflame

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Alright, that year is one that is pretty likely to be in the game. Makes me less sus of Luna for now, though he could have seen that no one else was that year and went for it. The only one who could cc him at this point is Wylted. I'd still like to see a role claim from Luna personally. 
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Alright, that year is one that is pretty likely to be in the game. Makes me less sus of Luna for now, though he could have seen that no one else was that year and went for it. The only one who could cc him at this point is Wylted. I'd still like to see a role claim from Luna personally. 
If we get a claim from him we might as well just mass claim, which idt we should be doing
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I agree that it’s possible, but I’d still say it’s a risky claim with WyIted still in the game. Given my year and what occurred then, I’m doubtful that it’s a fake claim or that there’s a theme split that could explain his claim just being his actual character (there’s always the possibility that the theme split places some Roman events against others). Maybe he’s just taking a huge risk and paying dividends with me, but it means I won’t be seeking to lynch him this DP and I’m willing to wait on his role claim.
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Anyways, if I die in the night, thematically speaking, if Whiteflame ends up claiming 1453 AD, it’s conceivable that him and Lunatic are the scum team. 476 AD is when the Western Roman Empire fell and 1453 AD is when the Eastern Roman Empire aka Byzantine Empire fell.
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Also at this point, I suspect Supa the most. Not many major Roman events from 530-540 AD
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 I'd still like to see a role claim from Luna personally. 
Why?
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If we get a claim from him we might as well just mass claim, which idt we should be doing
Fair enough 

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there’s always the possibility that the theme split places some Roman events against others
That's true, and I already had an idea for such a theme split in mind before Pie shared his. I'll wait until Wylted claims or flips to say what it is, though. 
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That's true, and I already had an idea for such a theme split in mind before Pie shared his. I'll wait until Wylted claims or flips to say what it is, though. 
I’d just go ahead and say it in case you die. Wylted prob gets lynched today anyways, and everyone else has character claimed or provided a range.
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@ILikePie5
You’re not wrong, figured my date was pretty obvious and yes, there’s a clear link between our dates. If people want to push one of us in a later DP, I think I’d be the better test since I’m the biggest outlier date-wise and mine represents the fall of an offshoot of the Roman Empire.

That being said, looking through the claims made to date, the ones that stand out as odd are Casey’s and Vader’s. I’ve found a possible event for the latter, but it’s notable that it’s much less well known than other claims already on the table. Casey’s claim regards the birth of an emperor, which is an unusual choice when all the other claims regarding emperors cover consequential moments during their rule.

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I’d just go ahead and say it in case you die.
I think it's at least possible that the theme split is between events that happened after the fall of the Western Roman Empire and ones that happened before it + the year 476 itself. That would make Vader and Whiteflame the scum team. 
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I think it's at least possible that the theme split is between events that happened after the fall of the Western Roman Empire and ones that happened before it + the year 476 itself. That would make Vader and Whiteflame the scum team. 
Ya that’s possible. We can see after Wylted’s flip.
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That being said, looking through the claims made to date, the ones that stand out as odd are Casey’s and Vader’s. I’ve found a possible event for the latter, but it’s notable that it’s much less well known than other claims already on the table.
I think I have the same event in mind, and my thoughts are similar regarding Vader's claim. I understand sussing me for mine, though I would like to say in my defense that I was the first to soft claim, first to full claim, and first to actually mention the Roman Empire. 
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@whiteflame
You’re not wrong, figured my date was pretty obvious and yes, there’s a clear link between our dates. If people want to push one of us in a later DP, I think I’d be the better test since I’m the biggest outlier date-wise and mine represents the fall of an offshoot of the Roman Empire.
Ya it’s the only one that made sense

That being said, looking through the claims made to date, the ones that stand out as odd are Casey’s and Vader’s. I’ve found a possible event for the latter, but it’s notable that it’s much less well known than other claims already on the table. Casey’s claim regards the birth of an emperor, which is an unusual choice when all the other claims regarding emperors cover consequential moments during their rule.
I agree with you on both. Why Trajan specifically? Could have been any one. Julius Caesar, Augustus Caesar make the most sense. It’s odd that it was specifically Trajan. 
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Why Trajan specifically? Could have been any one. Julius Caesar, Augustus Caesar make the most sense. It’s odd that it was specifically Trajan. 
Trajan saw the Roman Empire at its greatest territorial extent.
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Trajan saw the Roman Empire at its greatest territorial extent.
Is that what it says in your PM?
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Is that what it says in your PM?
Roughly, yes, though I paraphrased it a little of course. It's true though, the Roman Empire would never become larger than it was at the time of Trajan's death. 
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Anyways 

VTL Wylted
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I think I have the same event in mind, and my thoughts are similar regarding Vader's claim. I understand sussing me for mine, though I would like to say in my defense that I was the first to soft claim, first to full claim, and first to actually mention the Roman Empire. 
Point taken, but I'll note a couple of things.

First, Earth didn't respond to Pie's question about the existence of a fake claim in the game, which could account for all that.

Second, it's possible that Earth informed scum of the theme split. It wouldn't be a first, and could at least explain why you might mention the Roman Empire first. And really, that's the only thing that requires some explanation. Claiming early, especially with a more niche claim like this, isn't going to give you much credit from me unless it's paired with a role. 

I'll also note that claiming Vanilla, especially that early, makes me sus you a little more since it can't be CC'd. It's also a weird justification that seems more like a shrug than anything else. 


All this being said, you're not the person I'm chiefly sussing atm and I'm still thinking on your claim. I'd say Vader's more sus than you right now.



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Yeah, I'm down with that. 

VTL Wylted 
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VTL Wylted

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First, Earth didn't respond to Pie's question about the existence of a fake claim in the game, which could account for all that.
Point taken, though that does bring up a question for me -- Pie, did Earth respond to you over PM or not at all?

All this being said, you're not the person I'm chiefly sussing atm and I'm still thinking on your claim. I'd say Vader's more sus than you right now.
Yeah, fair enough. I'd sus me a little bit as well if I were you.