Clinton says don’t demean the MAGA MORONS

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“Since I live in a rural area, many of my old friends are Trump supporters. One, a good and generous woman, backs Trump because she feels betrayed by the Democratic and Republican political establishments, and she has a point. When factories closed and good union jobs left the area, she ended up homeless and addicted; four members of her extended family killed themselves and she once put a gun to her own head. So when a demagogue like Trump speaks to her pain and promises to bring factories back, of course her heart leaps”

Reagan killed the middle class in the decade of greed. What do you say to these people who can’t/won’t educate themselves.


A good story about rural people wiped out by drugs. I don’t get the feeling there is the same sympathy for black communities wiped out by drugs.





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Trump has taken to pretending he never said "Lock her Up!" about Hillary Clinton (which is not true). But he definitely reposted multiple images showing his major political foes (and Bill Gates?) in orange jumpsuits, and calling for Jack Smith, the House January 6 Committee, and top Democrats like Barack Obama to be prosecuted, maybe via “public military tribunals.”
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It's too bad 12 out of the most recent 16 years isn't long enough for the left tribe to help poor people.
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Liberals- let's set up free drug injection sites for drug addicts in predominantly black areas

Also liberals- see all those Appalachian meth heads being put in prison for meth instead of being given injection sites and free help. Yes there is too much sympathy for them
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Doesn't Project 2025 want to eliminate Medicaid?
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Do you know why the project 2025 stuff was on the news? 

Trump in a lot of the republican debates went after libertarian leaning candidates hard on that. 

Project 2025 was an attempt by people closely connected to the heritage foundation to put their people in a lot of high leverage positions in the Trump Whitehouse. 

This only got on the news because there is a type of civil war around Trump between heritage foundation type people and tech people around Peter Theil.

Thiel saw that he was about to be outmaneuvered so he start getting the media to go after project 2025 to force Trump to distance himself from them. Once Trump distanced himself you saw Elon Musk a close associat of athiel start funding Trump's campaign to the tune of maybe 100 million
 
You then see that JD Vance a guy Thiel went to college with get the VP slot and trump start pushing things like nuclear which are needed for the AI that us coming. 

Maybe the liberal.media participated in helping g thiel win that civil war because they found tech bros more tolerable than Christian nationalists, but this project 2025 smear campaign started with the right and anybody on the right paying attention knows that project 2025 lost that civil war and we we see Trump leaning more towards Theils objectives than theirs
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It's really too bad Trump won the civil war and defeated the neocons who set up project 2025.
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You won't need Social Security, right?
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Trump's biggest bankruptcy will be the USA.
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I hope not but Trump won't touch it. It's the libertarian candidates you have to look out for but they usually aren't electable anyway
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Trump has publicly rejected Project 2025 as Vice President Kamala Harris’ campaign has sought to tie him to some of the plan’s most extreme proposals. But in private, Russell Vought one of the key authors of Project 2025 said that those disavowals were merely “graduate-level politics.”  Russell Vought said his group, the Center for Renewing America, was secretly drafting hundreds of executive orders, regulations, and memos that would lay the groundwork for rapid action on Trump’s plans if he wins, describing his work as creating “shadow” agencies. He claimed that Trump has “blessed” his organization and “he’s very supportive of what we do.”
aid that those disavowals were merely “graduate-level politics.”


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It's too bad 12 out of the most recent 16 years isn't long enough for the left tribe to help poor people.
They did get help genius. Millions now have access to healthcare thanks to Democrats.

Democrats create good paying jobs. Record job creation by both Obama and Biden.

Record job loses by Bush and Trump

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Liberals- let's set up free drug injection sites for drug addicts in predominantly black areas
There’s a reason you’ve never been in charge of anything or asked your opinion about anything important.

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I hope not but Trump won't touch it. 
Trump will bankrupt the same way he bankrupted many of his companies.

No tax on tips
Free IVF 
Tax cuts

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Aren't you sad Trump won the civil war in 2016? Now you will never see another Romney, Bush, Reagan, or McCain. Ever.
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secretly drafting...
Trump is anything but secretive. As secretive as a hippopotamus in a lingerie shop.
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Millions now have access to healthcare thanks to Democrats.
You mean inefficient monopoly insurance cartels have access to millions and supported with tax subsidies while people can't choose the doctor they want. With a bill written exclusively by big healthcare and big pharma lobbies for their exclusive benefit.

And Biden sez..."WE BEAT BIG PHARMA!"
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Isn't it just heartwarming to know that our healthcare system, designed with the utmost care by insurance monopolies, has our best interests at heart? These inefficient insurance lobby groups have somehow managed to secure access to millions of Americans, all while being generously supported by tax subsidies. It’s almost poetic how a system built to benefit a select few can thrive so magnificently on the backs of the very people it's supposed to serve. Who needs choice when you can have the comforting consistency of an insurance company dictating your healthcare decisions?

Meanwhile, the thought of choosing your own doctor is almost laughable. Why would anyone want to disrupt the carefully constructed monopoly by seeking out a healthcare provider that actually meets their needs? The system is just too perfect as it is—especially when you consider that the bill determining your healthcare options was penned exclusively by the big healthcare and big pharma lobbies. They clearly know what's best for us, so why would we ever think to question their intentions?

We should all be grateful for the efficiency of this finely tuned machine. After all, who needs personal autonomy in healthcare when we have the assurance that our choices have been pre-approved by those who stand to gain the most? It’s a win-win, really—just not for the average person trying to get the care they need. But hey, at least the insurance companies and the supportive politicians are doing well. And isn’t that what really matters?

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who needs personal autonomy in healthcare
Who needs healthcare?

Just rub some dirt in it. You dont need doctors. They profit from you being sick. The dirt doesnt.

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You mean inefficient monopoly insurance cartels have access to millions and supported with tax subsidies while people can't choose the doctor they want.
So you are both complaining about subsidies for poor people and the fact they can’t choose their own doctor.

That’s beautiful.

The fact remains that millions of people have health insurance thanks to Democrats.

Medicare, and the the expansion of Medicaid that was part of Obamacare along with subsidies for the working poor.

With a bill written exclusively by big healthcare and big pharma lobbies for their exclusive benefit.
That’s another lie. They had a seat at the table because they needed to be part of the change. You lie constantly 

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They profit from you being sick. 
Is that why the government subsidizes the kinds of food that help make us number one in most unhealthy among all industrialized nations?

Is that why the government encouraged people to live sedentary for over a year to weaken natural immunity to Covid and other natural diseases?
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We should all be grateful for the efficiency of this finely tuned machine. After all, who needs personal autonomy in healthcare when we have the assurance that our choices have been pre-approved by those who stand to gain the most? It’s a win-win, really—just not for the average person trying to get the care they need. But hey, at least the insurance companies and the supportive politicians are doing well. And isn’t that what really matters?
Mr Glib. I bet you don’t get invited to many parties 

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Is that why the government subsidizes the kinds of food that help make us number one in most unhealthy among all industrialized nations?
Many americans reject health in favor of obesity. Government doesnt force people to eat a lot. Or does it?
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Who needs government-managed healthcare? It’s almost like asking who needs a fox to guard the henhouse. After all, why would you want a system where the same entity that profits from your illness is in charge of making sure you stay healthy? It’s the ultimate win-win—for the government, that is. The more you get sick, the more they get to “care” for you, and the more they can justify the endless expansion of their bureaucratic empire. Who wouldn’t want a healthcare system that’s essentially a subscription service for your ongoing maladies?

And isn’t it just a happy coincidence that the government also subsidizes the very foods that are making us the most unhealthy industrialized nation in the world? High-fructose corn syrup, processed meats, and all the other culinary delights that contribute to our skyrocketing rates of obesity, diabetes, and heart disease are practically gifts from Uncle Sam himself. It’s almost as if there’s a master plan to ensure we stay just sick enough to need that government-managed healthcare. After all, nothing says “national wellness” like a diet of government-approved junk food that keeps you hooked on their healthcare system.

And let’s not forget the genius strategy of encouraging people to live sedentary for over a year during the pandemic. What better way to weaken natural immunity than by having everyone binge-watch their way through the lockdowns? It’s as if the government was trying to engineer a population perfectly primed for perpetual dependence on their health services. Forget building up your immune system with fresh air, exercise, and sunlight. No, the real path to health, according to our wise leaders, is to stay indoors, pack on the quarantine pounds, and wait for the next round of government-sponsored medical solutions. It’s almost as if the whole thing was a plot to keep us all just sick enough to need their help—but hey, at least they’re looking out for us, right?

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Who needs government-managed healthcare? It’s almost like asking who needs a fox to guard the henhouse
Well genius, it’s well known that the most cost effective delivered healthcare in this country is Medicare.

And it’s the equivalent of insuring a car with 200,000 miles and the owner didn’t do any regular maintenance.

Then seniors say, ok I’m old now, I never went to the doctor but government take care of me.

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Government doesnt force people to eat a lot. Or does it?

Imagine a world where our diets are no longer dictated by government subsidies created by Agriculture lobbies that prop up the production of corn and sugar, two of the biggest culprits in the declining health of Americans. The government spends billions every year managing American diets. Without these subsidies, the market would naturally shift away from the overabundance of cheap, processed foods loaded with high-fructose corn syrup and refined sugars. We’d see a rise in the availability and affordability of more nutritious options, like fresh fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, leading to a healthier population and reducing the burden of diet-related diseases.

By stepping back from managing our diets through agricultural subsidies, the government could allow consumer demand to guide the market toward healthier food choices. Farmers would have the incentive to grow a wider variety of crops, diversifying our food supply and making it easier for people to access the nutrients they need. This shift would not only benefit individual health but also the environment, as crop diversification could lead to more sustainable farming practices, reducing the reliance on chemical fertilizers and pesticides that are heavily used in monoculture farming of corn and sugar.

Removing these subsidies would allow a grassroot cultural shift away from the processed, sugar-laden diets that have become the norm in America. As healthier food becomes more accessible and affordable, people would be more inclined to make better dietary choices, leading to a decrease in obesity, diabetes, and heart disease. It’s a win-win scenario where both the health of the population and the environment stand to gain, all by simply allowing the market to operate without the distorting influence of government and mega corporate lobby intervention in our diets. It would also save us billions that could be much better spent on real welfare for the people.
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Who needs government-managed healthcare?
It is better to have no healthcare. You getting ill is nature saying that you need to die.

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It is better to have no healthcare. You get ill is nature saying that you need to die.
The idea that our only options are government-managed healthcare or no healthcare at all is a classic false dichotomy, as absurd as saying if you don't want to eat fast food for every meal, your only choice is to starve. We’re constantly told that without a massive bureaucratic system controlling every aspect of our medical decisions, we’d be left to fend off illness with nothing but herbs and a prayer. But the reality is far more nuanced, with countless alternatives that could strike a balance between public oversight and personal choice, ensuring that people have access to the care they need without being micromanaged by the government.

For one, there are many models of healthcare that incorporate both public and private elements, giving people the freedom to choose their doctors and treatment plans while still providing a safety net for those who need it. Countries around the world have found ways to combine universal coverage with market-driven innovation, resulting in systems that are both effective and sustainable. The idea that the only alternative to government control is complete anarchy in healthcare is a scare tactic, meant to push people into accepting a one-size-fits-all solution that is almost never in their best interest.

Moreover, the notion that getting sick is nature's way of telling you it’s your time to go is not just cold-hearted but utterly simplistic. Illness is often preventable or treatable, and having access to healthcare means that more people can live healthy, productive lives. By framing the debate as a stark choice between total government control and the law of the jungle, we ignore the vast spectrum of possibilities that could provide better care for everyone. It's time to move beyond this false dichotomy and start talking about real solutions that respect both individual choice and collective responsibility.

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 the government could allow consumer demand to guide the market toward healthier food choices
Americans are famous for healthy food choices. Processed meat is more expensive than bananas. Americans love that meat.
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The idea that our only options are government-managed healthcare or no healthcare at all is a classic false dichotomy
It was indeed false dichotomy for 3 million people who lost healthcare under Trump. Its all false dichotomies.