trump is wrong to shut down the government for a wall

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Bzzzzzzt: GP Bullsh*t counter: #17

GP has been repeatedly fact check, and instead of defending any claims, he again simply repeats an insult.

He won’t defend his claims that this is the fault of everyone, when it was pointing out this was clearly trumps decision - his having previous agreed to a funding bill. Nor will he defend his false statements about the senate, or the blame that can be drawn from if; nor his omission of the fact democrats earned an electoral mandate, nor facts relating to the fact that this is obviously a political ploy and not urgent at all.

Of course, none of this is defended: he simply resorts to repeating an insult.
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Still triggered.
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Bzzzzzzt: GP Bullsh*t counter: #18

Yeah, it seems this is Gruppenführer Greyparrots go to strategy, if he can’t defend his claims, he simply repeats the same troll linez

So, this is Trumps shutdown. He is fully responsible, firstly because he said it was all on him, if you forget - and also because this is all about a demand he wants to be included in the budget, when the majority of congress doesn’t care. When politicians want a particular policy goal to be enacted, it requires discussion, research and negotiation: there is no need for the government to be shut down in order to do. Trump told you he was the greatest negotiator, a very stable Genius, and that Mexico would pay for the wall, this shutdown is occuring because al three of those are demonstrably wrong, and regular people are suffering because Trump is not acting like a grown up.

But sure, ignore all that and Troll! That makes you rightx

Bzzzzzzt: GP Bullsh*t counter: #19

It seems that in the process of being unable to say anything, you’ve mostly shut down, stuck your fingers in your ears and are refusing to listen to any facts that are inconvenient; it’s like I’ve upset you after reminding you of some uncomfortable fact or truth.

If only there was a word for that!


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In order that the petulant child allegedly running the country gets his own way he will punish 2 million Americans, what a pathetic snotty nose he is.
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It's not as though we have any reason to try, since it's not as though tens of thousands of Americans overdose and die each year on powerful narcotics smuggled into this country, several times greater than the annual number of gun homicides.

Overall, where narcotics are concerned, far more contraband transport takes place on the ocean than by land. In fact, more than 90 percent of smuggled drugsare shipped by sea, according to the U.S. Coast Guard. For example, the Coast Guard reports seizing 200 metric tons of cocaine at sea in 2016, compared to just 82 metric tons intercepted on land in the continental U.S. - https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-will-billions-for-the-wall-get-us-boat-people-on-americas-coasts

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Even Bill Buckley finally came around to his senses and supported legalization of drugs, so to avoid the stinking mess republican, right wing fear mongers have  installed world wide.

These Trumpanze right-wingers approach is private market does not equal black market and the resulting violence is due to governement and people who use drugs.

Trumpanzees narrow-viewpoint conincides with their lack of access to the empathetic centers in of their brain.

Immoral Trumpanzees are like sheep when it comes to following the immoral idio-ump.  Why is that?
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I remmber watching the program   on Firing lIne where he stated that it was the empirical data that changed his mind on legalization of drugs.  That utube was not the program I watched.  The utube is little unclear on his change of viewpoint.  It is only Falwells comments that point to Buclesy change of viewpoint.

Enlightened intellectual minds can come to their rational, logical common senses only if they can drop{ place to side } their ego.

This is Trumpanzees biggest problem  --if not most humans biggiest problem-- the inability to place the ego to the side to let in facts and truth and have brain shift of moral viewpoint.

Seriously, I think much of humanity, and is brain dead and that is why we have narcissistic Idido-ump as president of USA with the most hydrogen bombs of any country.

How many steps are we away from some authoritarian dictatro, autocrate etc from dropping a hydrogen bomb on some large city?

Humanity has gone from mid-19th century Mutually Assured Destruction { M.A.D. }  to   Now Universal Thought Stupidity{ N.U.T.S }.


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Thinking someone should be locked up cause they don't agree with you is why liberals are hated. Those who hate freedom shouldn't have any. 
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What I do wasn't the topic here, why are you abandoning
your point when its absurdity is revealed?  Or did I answer my own question?

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Ram,
Do you have any proof that actually says that Trump was considering signing a bill to keep the Government open?   Not so much as Rush or Ann saying that he shouldn't, but the fact that he was about to?  Is this on recorded anywhere?  Did someone in the administration say this? If so, when and where?

Or maybe to deflect that the border security issue is such a massive crisis, that Trump was willing to keep the government open until Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh told him to?

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I'm sorry, I'll break it down into NPC language.

Congress = <good>

Trump = bad.
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Thinking someone should be locked up cause they don't agree with you is why liberals are hated. Those who hate freedom shouldn't have any. 
He is not from America, so I doubt he has the same ideas about liberty.

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Its your cheese, you describe the smell however you like, though just because people you don't agree with don't like him, it doesn't automatically mean Trump == good.
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Bzzzzzzt: GP Bullsh*t counter: #20

Specific and detailed objections have been stated, and you’ve ignored them. The neat deflection, where you are forced to ignore all details - is worthy of another bs point!
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Bzzzzzzt: GP Bullsh*t counter: #21

Thinking that responding to intellectual opposition with rage, insults, dog whistles is a great idea is the reason republicans lost more seats in the house than they have in 40 years. Keep going.

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Thinking someone should be locked up cause they don't agree with you is why liberals are hated.
Your are very confused person and immoral person.

Trumpanzees should be Locked Away from Civilized society because your not a civilized person as none of you Trumpanzees are since you had your lack of moral integrity allowed you to vote in idiou-ump who is also not civilized, lacks any shred of moralintegrity,  and is a bully-like mafia boss and  lies 100 hundred times a day before breakfest and you Trumpanzees continously repeat his lies as a mantra.

In the words of the Great Michael FLynn  ---oh yeah you dont acknowledge him any more since he has become a crimminal--- Lock Them Away!

Lock Trumpanzees Away Today!

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You are a bigot and freedom hating pig. 
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You are a bigot and freedom hating pig
Just keep telling yourself that even as you look in the mirror and see a Trumpanzee stain staring back at you.

Where is M. Flynn these days? Is he in prison? No?

How bout P Manafort?  The list of worst people associated with Idio-ump is long and keeps getting longer and that is just teh USA citizens.

Then we have the worst from Russia who encourage mafia style tactics on USA citizens.

The Trumpanzee stain you see in the mirror is of your own doing, not others.

Please share when you actually have any rational, logical common sense truths to share with us.

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What is funny is you think I voted for Trump. You are a bigot and a freedom hating pig. 
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What is funny is you think I voted for Trump. You are a bigot and a freedom hating pig.
You are a Trumpanzee irrespective if you voted for him.  You think you avoid being locked away by claiming no association with idio-ump or his immoral actions.  You cannot and hopefully will be Locked Away!

Please share when you actually have any rational, logical common sense truths to share with us.

Just keep telling yourself that even as you look in the mirror and see a Trumpanzee stain staring back at you.

Where is M. Flynn these days? Is he in prison? No?

How bout P Manafort?  The list of worst people associated with Idio-ump is long and keeps getting longer and that is just teh USA citizens.

Then we have the worst from Russia who encourage mafia style tactics on USA citizens.

The Trumpanzee stain you see in the mirror is of your own doing, not others.



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DO YOU CARE if these invaders come to YOUR HOME and expect YOU to provide for them ?

How about a few of the youth that were throwing rocks and bottles at the BORDER GUARDS ?   this behavior proves these PARASITE VAMPIRE
intruders could care less if YOU are DEAD or ALIVE...you owe them....the same way Muslims trashed Europe....they were given entry-food-money
housing and in exchange went on RAPE and DESTRUCTION campaigns.....

YOU open YOUR HOME to potential DISEASE CARRIERS-DRUG and GANG members who will gladly take what they want rape your daughter
wife-girlfriend...sell your children into sex slavery....and expect even MORE OUT F YOU....oh, and YOUR neighbors will appreciate these new
additions to your household.....especially your landlord...YOU PAY...food-water-health-education-damages-crimes....YOU accept full responsibility 
as a SPONSOR of 4 to 6 invaders to YOUR HOME....most are ILLITERATE and do not speak ENGLISH....YOU cover for them....

and once these parasites are settled ?  more will show up to YOUR HOME...including their friends and family members...YOU PAY their WAY.....
do their TAXES...++++....OK...they are on the way to YOUR HOUSE..YOU have ZERO choice...whoever gets there first will STAY.....no matter
who they are ?   

SO WHAT....RIGHT....YOU are an AMERICAN and anyone can just show up and be taken care of....the same way their Country will do for YOU


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OF course it was wrong for idio-ump to shutdown the government for 35 days.  Pelosi stuffed idiou-umps balls-in-his-mouth sent chills throough his spine.  Strong women have that effect and chavenist ____y grabbing, mafia-like bulies, even if there the president of USA.

Lets see now, however long after arrest of Roger Stone did idiou-ump reopen the government?

Within hours.  Thanks to FBI empolyees who arressted Stone even when they were not being paid, kike so many other federal employees.

Idou-ump and Trumpanzees are such a disgrace to USA citizens moral integrity.