I don't understand how anyone could think trump is smart

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There are classic examples like him telling people to inject bleach to fight covid or asking why they don't use nuclear weapons on hurricanes. But at his recent press event he was saying that more than 100% of job creations went to migrants. And it wasn't like he slipped and said the wrong thing. He stopped mid sentence, re-iterated it and repeated it more than once. Emphatically. What kind of moron thinks that more than 100% of jobs could go to anyone. This idiot doesn't know what 100% means. How could anyone think he is qualified to be president when he doesn't understand grade school math?

It also highlights how frequently he lies. If you ever hear him say anything like "people are saying" or "people have told me" you can be sure he is lying. Because he's "heard that substantially more than, uh, beyond actually beyond the number of 100% it's a much higher number than that". What a doofus. 
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more than 100% of job creations went to migrants
lol Trump is so stupid.
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That’s why they are called MAGA MORONS 
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Well, in the USA if you are filthy rich and stupid you can do anything. We need to change that. Inheritances of more than $1 million need to be taxed 99 percent.
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The answer to your question is the same as the answer to why you believe this:

There are classic examples like him telling people to inject bleach
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How smart are people that use debunked propaganda as statements of fact?

Next up, the president grabbed a steering wheel, bragged about grabbing a pussy without consent, offered Russian bounties, said the military is for losers, said Nazis are very fine people, mocked a disabled reported, started the kids in cages program, and called every Mexican a rapist.

What a dummy. (Trump)
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How smart are people that use debunked propaganda as statements of fact?
Hard to tell. It's not like some long complicated piece of logic led them to accept propaganda. They just don't care to check because they're following their heart.

That's why stupid people and smart people can both behave stupidly.

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What kind of person thinks Kamala is actually rewriting the script here herself?
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How smart are people that use debunked propaganda as statements of fact?
how about this new one? Is that propaganda? Where, in a rambling old man way, said that more than 100% of jobs went to migrants? No smart person would say that because it doesn't make any sense. 

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It's just isn't the same unless you can bring up "the classics"

The reason why most people can't accept that Trump is dumb (which he is) is because your side insists he is the dumbest man on the planet. (which he is not)

Nobody trusts a hyperbolic propaganda spinner. That's just not how normal brains work.
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It's just isn't the same unless you can bring up "the classics"
gotcha. You can't argue that trump didn't say something very stupid that a 10 year old could explain to him, so you want to distract and talk about something else. 

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@HistoryBuff If you refuse to drink the water in the case of the bleach hoax, why would it be any different for the present or future? Ultimately you're just proving that like Underdog you will never reject disinformation which pleases you so it is really a waste of time to debate you on whether anything is disinformation.

It's like discussing color with a colorblind person.
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Nobody trusts a hyperbolic propaganda spinner. That's just not how normal brains work.
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There are classic examples like him telling people to inject bleach to fight covid

r asking why they don't use nuclear weapons on hurricanes
That would be a question not a policy proposal but that is also a lie.


But at his recent press event he was saying that more than 100% of job creations went to migrants.
hyperbole stating that changes in migrant unemployment went down while native citizens stayed the same backed by statistical proof. so again you are lying

It also highlights how frequently he lies. If you ever hear him say anything like "people are saying" or "people have told me" you can be sure he is lying.
All the supposed lies you mentioned were debunked in this thread, so I have to wonder. If he is actually a liar, why do people lie about his lies instead of just actually pointing out actual lies he told?
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did you bother to read it? Because it confirms he did ask if people should inject bleach. Only an idiot would do that.
"Trump did ask members of the government's coronavirus task force to look into whether disinfectants could be injected inside people to treat COVID-19."

That would be a question not a policy proposal but that is also a lie.
I never said it was a policy proposal. I said it was something stupid he said. Your link shows there are articles where people reported to journalists that trump had asked them that question. So where exactly is the lie?

hyperbole stating that changes in migrant unemployment went down while native citizens stayed the same backed by statistical proof. so again you are lying
lol no. There is no such thing as "more than 100%". Any primary school child could tell you that. He's just an idiot. 

All the supposed lies you mentioned were debunked in this thread
you debunked literally none of them. You just linked to articles confirmed he said these things. Did you even read the things you linked?

If he is actually a liar, why do people lie about his lies instead of just actually pointing out actual lies he told?
The primary point here is that he is stupid. REALLY stupid. The him lying was just an offhand remark since he did the "people tell me" thing in this clip and that almost always means the next thing he says will be a lie. 

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here is your lie

him telling people to inject bleach to fight covid
I prove you are a piece of shit liar and instead of apologizing, you double down on your lies and change it to this

it confirms he did ask if people should inject bleach.
so did he tell people to inject bleach or did he make some wild speculation in the moment?
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I will reiterate since it seems you glossed over this:

The reason why most people can't accept that Trump is dumb (which he is) is because your side insists he is the dumbest man on the planet. (which he is not)

Media caught crying wolf so many times lose credibility when actual wolves are sighted.
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This is not a lie, it's just a political hyperbole meant to convince voters.

At least your thread is useful to know who are the cultists in this forum.
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He asked questions about tracheal uv light and that is how the bleach lie originated


Conclusions: In this first-in-human study, endotracheal narrow-band UVA therapy, under specific and monitored settings, appears to be safe and associated with a reduction in respiratory SARS-CoV-2 viral burden over the treatment period. UVA therapy may provide a novel approach in the fight against COVID-19.
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Next up, the president grabbed a steering wheel, bragged about grabbing a pussy without consent, offered Russian bounties, said the military is for losers, said Nazis are very fine people, mocked a disabled reported, started the kids in cages program, and called every Mexican a rapist.
Yes he did. But I like the way you reword everything in way where you have just a little wiggle room.

the president grabbed a steering wheel, instead of grabbed at. The under oath testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson 

bragged about grabbing a pussy without consent, - maybe you had consent, he said they let you do it

said the military is for losers, can’t trust a Marine Corps General that Trump picked to be in his cabinet, he’s a liberal 

Nazis are very fine people, instead of there were very fine people on both sides, including the Nazis with the tiki torches 

mocked a disabled reporter, but he always makes the motions of people with disabilities 

started the kids in cages program, but Obama built the cages for human traffickers and Trump simply repurposed them 

and called every Mexican a rapist, because to MAGA MORONS, if he didn’t explicitly say EVERY Mexican, then it’s a perfect statement, like his perfect phone call

GP is a liar











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He asked questions about tracheal uv light and that is how the bleach lie got started 
Actually it was stupid statements about disinfectant that got people talking about Trump’s stupid bleach lie
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Trump “ I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that too... So, we'll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute - that's pretty powerful."

This is not a question. It is a another stupid statement by your dear leader

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But I like the way you reword everything in way where you have just a little wiggle room.
The media has the wiggle room as paid liars like the CIA.

GP is a liar
I work for the CIA as confirmed by the resident stolen valor larper in chief.
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The media has the wiggle room as paid liars like the CIA.
Right the CIA lies and you tell the truth. Except I see you lying here every day.


I work for the CIA as confirmed by the resident stolen valor larper in chief.
3 more lies by GP the navy semen.

I was a Captain in the Marines and a helicopter pilot. You were a semen. Those differences in our lives have continued to manifest themselves into middle age.
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Yes, Trump actually said: "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me."
Trump did not explicitly recommend ingesting a disinfectant like bleach. Nevertheless, his remarks led some companies and state agencies to issue warnings about ingesting disinfectants. The maker of Lysol said in a statement that "under no circumstance" should its products be used in the human body.

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Companies reacted to the bleach lie perpetuated by the radical left. Had the MSM chose to not lie, and report the truth as my link shows, there would have been no warnings issued.
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Companies reacted to the bleach lie perpetuated by the radical left. Had the MSM chose to not lie, and report the truth as my link shows, there would have been no warnings issued.
That’s a lie. They were responding to what Trump said on national television 

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How the Media Reported It:

The New York Times published an article titled "Trump Muses About Light as Remedy, but Also Disinfectant, Which Is Dangerous" on April 24, 2020. The article highlighted Trump's remarks, suggesting that he proposed using disinfectants internally, which the paper described as dangerous and irresponsible. The story quickly gained traction and spread across social media, amplifying the claim.

CNN ran with a headline that read "Trump ponders dangerous coronavirus treatment: injecting disinfectant" on the same day. The report emphasized Trump's suggestion about disinfectants, warning viewers of the dangers of ingesting or injecting such substances.

The Washington Post published an article titled "Trump asked if disinfectants could be injected to kill coronavirus inside the body. Doctors answered: People will die." This story not only reported Trump's comments but also included quotes from medical professionals warning against the use of disinfectants in this manner, further solidifying the perception that Trump had suggested injecting these substances.

The Spread of the Narrative
These initial reports set the tone for the coverage that followed. Headlines from other major outlets included:

NBC News: "Trump suggests 'injection' of disinfectant to beat coronavirus and 'clean' the lungs"
BBC: "Coronavirus: Outcry after Trump suggests injecting disinfectant as treatment"
The Guardian: "Trump suggests injecting disinfectant to treat coronavirus. Doctors urge people not to listen."
These headlines played a significant role in shaping the public perception that Trump had told Americans to inject themselves with bleach or disinfectant. The initial framing by these outlets led to the widespread belief that Trump had proposed a dangerous and absurd solution to the pandemic.

How the media DID NOT report it:


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and report the truth as my link shows, 
Your link has nothing to do with using a disinfectant to give the body a cleansing.

This is the quote

"I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs."

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