Judgment day delayed

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Sorry, Christians, but I just had a talk with my father Satan, and yeah, judgment day is delayed.

Judgment day is delayed by 200 years, so judgment day will happen in year 2223 (2 + 2 + 2 = 6, and 6 repeated 3 times is 666.).

I know many of you were excited by judgment day because Jesus would come back to kill everyone on Earth after brutally torturing them.

However, Jesus is scared of Satan, since last time Jesus came to Earth, Satan nailed him and Jesus ran away and never came back.

Its actually Satan who decides when judgment day will happen.

Jesus isnt even a primordial God.
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Jesus was the son of a loose woman and an unknown philanderer.

The devil character in the red latex suit, with big horns and a trident, is a sexual fantasy of yours.

The Earth will end when the Sun gives up the ghost.

And if we haven't escaped before then we will dehydrate if nothing else.

Though I'm guessing that some form of human inspired intelligence will have made it.
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@Best.Korea
Sorry, Christians, but I just had a talk with my father Satan, and yeah, judgment day is delayed.

Judgment day is delayed by 200 years, so judgment day will happen in year 2223 (2 + 2 + 2 = 6, and 6 repeated 3 times is 666.).

I know many of you were excited by judgment day because Jesus would come back to kill everyone on Earth after brutally torturing them.

However, Jesus is scared of Satan, since last time Jesus came to Earth, Satan nailed him and Jesus ran away and never came back.

Its actually Satan who decides when judgment day will happen.

Jesus isnt even a primordial God.
I'm intrigued by your thoughts. 

That doesn't sound like a delay. That sounds like you are bringing it forward.  

What do you make of Peter's statement in 2 Peter 3:8-9? 


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I dont know. Can you explain?
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I dont know. Can you explain?
I thought you must understand. Otherwise, why would you make such wild claims? 

Christian Thought has three main views of the future.  There is the pre-millenial view, the Amillenial view, and the post-millenial view. 

The fundamentalists primarily take the first view. The evangelicals, are divided between the three. The liberals tend to be the last.  The Roman Catholics hover between the second and third. 

I hover between being an optimistic Amil - and PostMil.  This means that I think Jesus is not returning any time in the near future, but rather is a long time off. 

Of course, if I am wrong, then so be it. Not that it matters from a specific salvation issue, since one's view on eschatology is not a salvation issue. It is an issue of course, but not salvation.  Most Reformed people tend to hold to the second view, although traditionally, during the Reformation and up until about the Second World War, most Reformed Christians did hold to Post Mill. 

The verse I mentioned from 2 Peter talks about the delay of Jesus returning. The reason provided was to ensure that as many people as possible were saved.  that clearly contradicts your notion that he's coming back to bring torture and judgment and that Christians love this idea.  

Christians do look forward to Jesus returning. They look forward to a day when they don't have to deal with sin anymore. They are not looking forward to judgment day for people to be destroyed and tortured.  that's why most of the Christians I know spend much of their time, sharing the gospel.  Most Christians want most people to live in Heaven with God.   Personally, I hold the view that Jesus' words to his disciples in the Sermon on the Mount about the wide and the narrow gate was a warning. It may be a prophecy, but it's a warning.  In other words, like all prophecies, it has a purpose.  A purpose to cause people to change the way they are heading and to take the right path. That's what happened in Ninevah with Jonah. He prophesied and the people turned. 

Hence, I see Jesus' words primarily as a warning - and one which - I think in history will be heeded by the majority of humanity.  Another reason I think we still have a long way to go before Jesus returns.   

Now some people will surely point out all the warnings in the NT - of the coming of the Lord. The day of judgment is imminent. And how the NT Christians thought this meant Jesus was returning soon.  And I certainly concede there are quite a few views about that - from some saying, it's proof that Jesus was wrong, to others saying the Disciples misunderstood.  People will say what they want to say - me included. 

I think there are a couple of things going on in the NT. I think Jesus referred to these couple of things in his sermons - that we see in Matthew 24, MArk 13, and Luke 21. 

I think he used the word - this and that or these and those to point us to the Different events.  And both can be called the Last Day or Judgment Day or the coming of the Lord or the Day of the Lord. Or the Last Days. Or his coming in or with or even on the clouds.  But they don't always refer to the same event. 

The two things that were going on in Jesus' commentary:

1. The End of Israel's covenant with God; and 
2. The End of the World. 

The first referred to the specific event within one generation of Jesus' death. 
The Second to the physical return of Christ, the Last Day, and judgment day of the world. 

Many of the warnings in the NT, referred to the Last Days of Israel. I think this is evident in Paul and Peter's writings in particular. 

And some of the warnings are to the Return of Christ.  

Hence, the coming of the Lord may mean as it does in the OT on many occasions, to God's judgment on the world. It may also mean - as it does in Ruth 1:6  a visit from the Lord. Not physically, of course, but rather that he fed them - by ending the famine. It doesn't require a LITERAL coming or visitation. 

It of course may mean a physical coming. which is what Jesus' first visit was - and his second one will be as well. 

In any event, 2 Peter seems to refute your view. But then again, you seem to understand enough. So all the best with you. 
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You say what you only "think" a lot.

2 Peter 3:8-9 says; We are not to Forget "a day is but a thousand years to the lord".

You say this means:
"The verse I mentioned from 2 Peter talks about the delay of Jesus returning."

Verse 9 says "The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness".

So when the lord says a day are we to read (not to forget) this to mean 1000 years?
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Best. Korea wrote @ Tradesecret:  So when the lord says a day are we to read (not to forget) this to mean 1000 years?


2 Peter 3:8-9

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8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.


Yes BK. That is what it  says and what it means.  But don't expect the bible dunce Reverend Tradesecret to agree with what the  BIBLE itself says. He'll contradict the word of his god when it suites his own narrative and interpretation.





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we will have to see
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We will.
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You say what you only "think" a lot.
Probably. So what? What does that mean? Just that this is where I am coming from based on my observations. I could redact it, but I don't see any particular problem with it. I could say, I know or I feel or just make it look like a statement of fact. but unlike you and others here - I am open to being corrected. So to say I think - is the place I am coming from - is most appropriate when I use it. 

2 Peter 3:8-9 says; We are not to Forget "a day is but a thousand years to the lord".
"But do not forget this one thing, ... With the Lord, a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."

I notice you omitted the last part of this verse which gives us a much fuller understanding of what Peter is saying.

Peter is not saying, this is how you work out how old the Lord is. He's not saying that you can use this as code to figure out when the Lord is returning. What is he doing is making a very profound point. And that point is this"

Firstly, God's timing is not the same as ours because - what is soon for God who lives for eternity is different to what man sees as soon who lives for 80 years. 

Soon, for God may well be thousands of years because God is not bound by the same time as we are. 

Hence, with the Lord, a day is like a thousand years. Notice even the little word "like".  Peter didn't say - a 1000 years is the same as a day. I'm sure you've heard of similes.  And if you haven't, I'm sure you can google it. 

You say this means:
"The verse I mentioned from 2 Peter talks about the delay of Jesus returning."
Yes, it does. 

Verse 9 says "The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness".

So when the lord says a day are we to read (not to forget) this to mean 1000 years?
You can read it any way you want to. I would read it as I said above, it is referring to the difference between humanity and God. God is eternal and immortal and humanity is not.  I don't think it is a code or formula to work out the age of the Lord or even the time of his return. I think it is expressing that God's timing is measured according to the fact that he is God and eternal and that when we think soon, given our brevity of life is different to God's soon which is more in line with his eternal nature. 

The primary reason I pointed this verse out to you was not respect the timing or delay of his return, but rather the reason why he was delaying it. 

"because he is not willing that any would perish",   . That is different to your suggestion that Christians and God is just snapping at the bit to torture and punish people.  Hence, Why I said it contradicts what you wrote above. 

Have a good day. 
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Paul explains in Romans that in the course of discussing the sin of mankind that God passed over the sins previously committed because He intended to demonstrate His righteousness in Christ. Though God could have destroyed all sin on earth in the first moment, He demonstrated forbearance Paul says. Forbearance means waiting patiently for what is due or refraining from exercising a legal right. God has every right to judge sin – and one day He will do it – but for now, He is being patient so He may demonstrate His righteousness to the world.
Nevertheless, if men came face-to-face with God, judgment for sin in instantaneous because God can no long forebear what enters into His presence.
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2 Peter 3:8-9  King James Version

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.


Tradesecret wrote @Best.Korea
Soon, for God may well be thousands of years because God is not bound by the same time as we are. Hence, with the Lord, a day is like a thousand years.
Well now we are talking of  gods timescale of a thousand year day as compared to man's mere earthly  time scale of 24 hour day:

How many god days did it take to create the world and all that is in it?

How many god days was Jonah in the belly of a fish?

How many god days was Jesus in the tomb?


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How many god days did it take to create the world and all that is in it?

How many god days was Jonah in the belly of a fish?

How many god days was Jesus in the tomb?
1. 6 days.
2. 3 days
3. 3 days.
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2 Peter 3:8-9  King James Version

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.


Tradesecret wrote @Best.Korea
Soon, for God may well be thousands of years because God is not bound by the same time as we are. Hence, with the Lord, a day is like a thousand years.
Stephen wrote:  Well now we are talking of  gods timescale of a thousand year day as compared to man's mere earthly  time scale of 24 hour day:

How many god days did it take to create the world and all that is in it?

How many god days was Jonah in the belly of a fish?

How many god days was Jesus in the tomb?



Shila wrote: 1. 6 days.
2. 3 days
3. 3 days.

Not according to the bibles god "days" . Read above very carefully.



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How many god days did it take to create the world and all that is in it?

According to the Bible God took 6 days and rested on the 7th.

How many god days was Jonah in the belly of a fish?

According to the Bible Jonah was in the belly of the fish for 3 days.

How many god days was Jesus in the tomb?
Jesus was in the tomb for 3 days.

God’s day refers to creation day. A day is equal to a 1000 years.


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How many god days did it take to create the world and all that is in it?

According to the Bible God took 6 days and rested on the 7th.

How many god days was Jonah in the belly of a fish?

According to the Bible Jonah was in the belly of the fish for 3 days.

How many god days was Jesus in the tomb?
Jesus was in the tomb for 3 days.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>God’s day refers to creation day. A day is equal to a 1000 years.<<<<<<<<<
My emphasis in bold, underlined in-between arrows
So then the answers should be:


6000 years
3000 years
and 
3000 years, according to the Apostle Peter, Tradesecret and yourself.  All of the above were done through and by the hands of  god in his own time. Unless you are all going to backpedal on your own comments and claims.
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How many god days did it take to create the world and all that is in it?

According to the Bible God took 6 days and rested on the 7th.

How many god days was Jonah in the belly of a fish?

According to the Bible Jonah was in the belly of the fish for 3 days.

How many god days was Jesus in the tomb?
Jesus was in the tomb for 3 days.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>God’s day refers to creation day. A day is equal to a 1000 years.<<<<<<<<<
My emphasis in bold, underlined in-between arrows
So then the answers should be:


6000 years
3000 years
and 
3000 years, according to the Apostle Peter, Tradesecret and yourself.  All of the above were done through and by the hands of  god in his own time. Unless you are all going to backpedal on your own comments and claims.
Creation was done by God. Therefore god’s day applies.

But Jonah and Jesus in the tomb were regular days observed on earth by witnesses.