What does it say about character when you fake a disability to avoid the draft?

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Cohen wasn't responsible for Putin's 27 point jump in Approval. Or the liberation of the Donbas.

Biden was responsible for that.
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Well, only now, Team Trump can point to these Kremlin comments about Biden and use them to deflect the inevitable accusations that Mr. Trump is the Kremlin's choice.
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Did you seal clap when the Donbas was liberated under Biden? Or did you demand better from Biden?

Did you also seal clap when Biden raised American gas prices more than a dollar to "punish Putin" with sanctions which ended pouring billions into Russia as they made new trade partners and found new oil markets?

Clap clap clap

I bet you have 87% approval for Biden like Moscow has for Putin.
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Fidel Castro was asked in 1999 if there was a candidate he hoped would become the next president of the US. He laughed for a moment and told the reporter that he most certainly did have a preference. But then he explained that he would not tell him because, if Fidel said who he preferred, it would only hurt his candidate.
Was Putin’s answer based on the same calculation?

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Putin only cares about 2 things: the Donbas, and his approval.

Biden gave him both of those things.
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The war in Donbas, or Donbas war, was a phase of the Russo-Ukrainian war in the Donbas region of Ukraine. The war began in 2014.
What did Biden have to do with it?
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That's the point. He did nothing. Or at least nothing that could hurt Putin and help America. Putin is now in a much better place than 2014.
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The New York Times reported that the two daughters of a late Queens podiatrist are going public with a claim that their father diagnosed the future president with bone spurs in 1968 as a favor to his landlord, Trump patriarch Fred C. Trump. The diagnosis allowed Donald Trump to get a medical exemption that allowed him to avoid the draft during the Vietnam War.
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At least Trump never made up a fake rank like Walz. Stolen Valor.

It's ok to be honest and brave about avoiding bad wars. Lying about it makes you a coward and a pandersaurus.
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On Thursday, after the publication of this report and others, the Harris campaign website was updated with an amended characterization of Walz’s rank, removing reference to “retired command sergeant major” and saying instead he once served at that paygrade.
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I believe this has been discussed many times before, and several Republican users including myself have given answers to this question; for example, other Democratic politicians who ran for President avoided serving in Vietnam. Harris's running mate, likewise, never saw combat IIRC, so he's not comparable to, say, WWII vets by pure virtue of enlisting, though he does deserve a fair measure of respect for serving in any capacity. But I'd like to add one more thing:

It says nothing about your character at all.
Women are exempt from the draft, so it logically and morally follows that men are entitled to the same protections of their right not to kill or be killed. Any law that suggests otherwise is an illegitimate law which not only can but should be ignored without hesitation. To serve is an honorable choice, but if it's not an obligation for all then it's an obligation for none.
And to be clear, this isn't just a defense of Trump; I have no qualms with the men of Ukraine who are fleeing to foreign countries in violation of Ukrainian government orders to stay put and submit to the draft, since Ukrainian women are permitted to leave without obstacle. They are doing nothing wrong whatsoever.
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As Governor, Walz has done more to help middle class families get ahead than any other statewide leader in recent memory. He lowered the cost of insulin to $35 per month for many Minnesotans. He eliminated junk fees. And, he signed paid leave into law so that parents can take care of sick families without losing their job. Governor Walz stood up for fundamental freedoms and made Minnesota the first state to pass a law codifying abortion rights after the Supreme Court overturned Roe. He funded Minnesota police departments, putting more cops on the street and investing in body cameras, and established universal background checks for gun purchases. And, he worked across the aisle to pass a bipartisan infrastructure package.
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I know I know. You are a libtard so you do not believe in meritocracy 
Is that what Trump represents to you, a meritocracy? He inherited 700 million dollars.

He’s a member of the American aristocracy. Then he pays no federal income taxes and dodges the draft.

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Combat veteran here...

I'm opposed to the draft, so I try to not pass judgement on that issue. It is of course worthy of some mockery, I just wouldn't raise that to the level of determining for whom to vote.
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At least Trump never made up a fake rank like Walz. Stolen Valor.
It's ok to be honest and brave about avoiding bad wars. Lying about it makes you a coward and a pandersaurus.
Is that what MAGA MORONS call honest, faking a disability with a fake doctor’s note?

Fake rank? No. You lie
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Trump is lying even today when he says he had a bone spur 
Eh, he lies about a lot of things. In case you didn't notice he's kinda a piece of shit. I don't have anything against draft dodgers though.
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Women are exempt from the draft, so it logically and morally follows that men are entitled to the same protections of their right not to kill or be killed. 
That’s a very unique perspective. What is your opinion on the procedure to evacuate women and children first when the Titanic was sinking?

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I don't have anything against draft dodgers though.
What about piece of shit draft dodgers who want to be Commander in Chief?


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I'm opposed to the draft,
In peace time or all the time. What if the United States is at war?

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Perhaps, but it's the truth. What's between your legs does not determine how expendable your life is, full stop. If the government wishes to compel men to fight and die, they must do the exact same to women. Not doing so is the same as giving men permission not to fight and die, unless said men enlisted of their own volition.
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What about piece of shit draft dodgers who want to be Commander in Chief?
Mostly I put them in the same category as piece of shit non-draft-dodgers that want to be Commander in Chief. Depends on the war I guess but we are talking about the Vietnam war here? Yeah, that one was pretty gay. I would dodge that draft too.
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Let me get this straight 

You think Trump is a piece of shit

You know him to be a draft dodger

But you consider him fit for the same office that George Washington and Abraham Lincoln held.
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Perhaps, but it's the truth. What's between your legs does not determine how expendable your life is, full stop. If the government wishes to compel men to fight and die, they must do the exact same to women.
Hmm, do you believe women in general are capable of meeting the physical demands of combat? How about 12 yo boys?

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I think I have made it clear that the draft dodging is not the part that makes him a bad guy. I don't recall saying I wanted Trump to be the president though, could you possibly point to the post where I did so? If you are unable to do so then please go touch some grass.
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I don't recall saying I wanted Trump to be the president. Could you possibly point to the post where I did so?
I didn’t say you support Trump. I said you consider him fit to serve as President 

Yeah, that one was pretty gay. I would dodge that draft too.
You are characterizing the Vietnam War as “gay”. Are you are normal person or a dufus?


then please go touch some grass.
That’s a pretty gay statement 
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What's between your legs does not determine how expendable your life is, 
It appears you don’t have anything between your legs