And the winner is....Tim Walz

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Apparently, Trump is learning from expert politicians how to create a problem, then become a hero by solving the problem you created.
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Not really just learning. The immigration stuff has been part of his rhetoric since 2015. It's, like... his one thing.

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Eh, he never created illegal immigration when he was doing tv shows.

If he started younger, he could have really done well with the whole government's game of dig a hole, fill it up, and force you to pay him to have the privilege of watching him do it.
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Eh, he never created illegal immigration when he was doing tv shows.
No, he just hired them to prune his trees on his golf courses and wash dishes at Mar A Lago.

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Tim Walz was initially charged with DUI and speeding in a 1995 incident where he was pulled over by police. He failed a field sobriety test and a preliminary breath test at the scene. However, as part of a plea deal, the DUI and speeding charges were later reduced to a single count of reckless driving, meaning he was not ultimately convicted of DUI or speeding.
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Well, former President Donald Trump was arrested at the Fulton County Jail on felony charges in connection with efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results in Georgia. 
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He should have been speeding and drinking.
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If he started younger, he could have really done well with the whole government's game of dig a hole, fill it up, and force you to pay him to have the privilege of watching him do it.
OGP, you have yet to learn from Trumpet, that, Mexico will pay for any holes just as they will pay for fence along border. You maybe were at lunch when when Trumpet repeated this over, and over, and over and over and over.....etc......

Trumpet is excellent at repeating and terrible at learning.  Old news


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Correct, he should have led with "you are gonna pay for it"

Then he would have been more accepted as a politician. People know they pay for illegal migrants. That's why we let them in.
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He has to fight a stolen valor and DUI scandal.
there is no stolen valor scandal. That's just nonsense peddled by idiots on the right. He served in the military for 24 years. 

And he had a DUI decades ago and then cleaned himself up and has been nothing but a service to his community for decades. But feel free to pretend like that's a scandal. Especially compared to the train wreck that is trump and Vance. Trump is literally a convicted felon with dozens more felony charges coming. Vance is creep who keeps having scandal after scandal. I've lost track. We know he hates women, non-whites (which is extra weird given his wife isn't white), irish people. I'm sure I've missed some. 
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That's just nonsense peddled by idiots on the right. 
Well, that’s 90% of the Republican Party 

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He served in the military for 24 years. 

And retired as an e-8. Not a e-9 as he bragged in dozens of campaign ads.
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and then cleaned himself up
More like cleaned up the narrative by lying about driving himself to the police station and having a hearing loss problem when he ran from the police.

Don't pretend these 2 bozos are the best the left has to offer the American people. That's an insult to actual Democrats.
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Don't pretend these 2 bozos are the best the left has to offer the American people. That's an insult to actual Democrats.
Oh I’m sure you could name several democrats that are better but you won’t because you never support anything or anyone. Except Ron DeSanctimonious. lol 

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And retired as an e-8. Not a e-9 as he bragged in dozens of campaign ads.
He served as an E-9. Which is way better than your lowly E-1 semen status.

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And retired as an e-8. Not a e-9 as he bragged in dozens of campaign ads.
ok. and? He was an e-9 while he was active duty. He retired as an e-8. What is the scandal? 

More like cleaned up the narrative by lying about driving himself to the police station and having a hearing loss problem when he ran from the police.
no idea what you're talking about. But him doing 1 bad thing 30 years ago is not something anyone cares about. Trump and Vance are doing bad things right now. But sure, try to get people to care about a drunk driving charge from 30 years ago while trump is awaiting trial for trying to overthrow democracy.


Don't pretend these 2 bozos are the best the left has to offer the American people. That's an insult to actual Democrats.
Walz is pretty good actually. I'm quite pleased with him being chosen. And yeah, there are better people I would prefer to see elected. But they are orders of magnitude better than trump and vance. And they are going to kick trump's ass. 
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ok. and? He was an e-9 while he was active duty. He retired as an e-8. What is the scandal? 
It’s another made up scandal like Benghazi and Hunter Biden

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It’s another made up scandal like Benghazi and Hunter Biden
oh I know. This guy is basically as generic an upstanding citizen as you can imagine. A soldier, a football coach, a teacher. They are desperately flailing for something to attack him with and the best they can do is a DUI from 30 years ago and that they don't understand his military record. 

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ok. and? He was an e-9 while he was active duty. He retired as an e-8. What is the scandal? 

He said he was a retired E-9....multiple times.
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He said he was a retired E-9....multiple times.
Or did he say he was an E-9 when he retired?

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Or did he say he was an E-9 when he retired?

Great question. Let's see some clips.
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He said he was a retired E-9....multiple times.
he was an E-9. He is retired. Even if that that statement was what he said verbatim, it wouldn't be a lie. When a CEO retires and he says "i'm a retired CEO", you don't accuse him of lying because he isn't currently a CEO. He was one. then he retired. He was an E-9. Then he retired. 

But again, this is an extremely dumb argument to make. All you are doing is drawing attention to his 24 years of service to his country. Playing word games to try to pretend like he somehow lied about his decades of service isn't going to work. Especially when trump lied about bone spurs to avoid military service. This "attack" only helps them.