Is slavery just as bad or worst than abortion?

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Is abortion just as horrible or worse than slavery?

We're talking about ownership. There are some parallels but slaves have to be alive at the end of the day.

No such slave as a dead one.
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It's hard to tell, but slavery is slightly better than abortion.  It's hard to tell though; they were both wonderful for making people rich in this capitalistic nation we have.  Birthing a kid and setting that kid up for adoption is going to cost the taxpayers a lot of money; money that can go towards cutting taxes for the globalists; it's better to just abort; it's less socialist that way.

I believe all the money the world owns should go to one person; the smartest person, and he decides where it goes.  The plan can't fail.  Anyone who thinks it can fail just doesn't have an open mind.
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The right tries to compare abortion to slavery by citing the inequality dynamic between a woman and a zygote (also applied to ancient American blacks compared to their white overlords).

The left tries to compare banning abortion to slavery as it is forced unpaid labor (also applied to ancient American blacks).

There is an argument for both sides.  So if you want abortion banned, then make the argument for it, but keep black history out of your argument.
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A Zedku for Mall.


Abortion is a medical or surgical procedure.

Slavery isn't.

Both achieve an outcome, at a relative cost to those involved.

Horrible is an opinion.

Opinions are a state of mind.

States of mind are acquired, relative to input.

Input is relative to source data providers.

Worse than.

Better than.

Or just than.


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Birthing a kid and setting that kid up for adoption is going to cost the taxpayers a lot of money
please explain
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please explain
Welfare.  Every single foster care kid is a welfare economic parasite and me being a capitalist, I would rather have the kid die than pay for them.  I am forced to pay for other people's kids if those kids are in foster care.  I don't want to be a cuck; the kids should have just been aborted.
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Historical Timeline of US Government Benefits. Social Security Act of 1935. This act provided the first national system of social welfare benefits in the United States, providing for old-age, survivors, and disability insurance.

everything was soooo much better in 1934
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Is abortion worse than slavery?
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Is abortion worse than slavery?
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I have never had an abortion, nor have I ever been enslaved.

So how would I know.

Though if a properly performed abortion is a chosen surgical solution to a perceived problem.

And enslavement is oppressive and over demanding.

Then slavery would probably be the toughest, ergo the worst.


Are you qualified to judge?


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So you have to experience a thing to judge  what is worse.

Yes I'm qualified to judge and make judgments. Do you have to have experience as a murderer to judge if that is criminal or not? Whether it is heinous or vile?

This is getting as foolish as when I asked you why you don't support the choice of a murderer. You had to make a judgement there based on an act to make that choice of non support.

People have to stop using the word "judge" conveniently to a point they don't have.
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If you don't know which is worse, just say that. That's the wisest response you can make as opposed to all that other foolishness.
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See # 10.


Circumstance would dictate which is worse relative to an individual.

But as I stated above, and within that set of circumstances, then slavery is far worse.


And for sure, as individuals we all judge and make judgements without authority.

Collectively we create authority.

Nonetheless, there is currently no greater authority available that qualify collective human judgements.


Maybe collective oppression is worse.

Maybe everything is perfectly OK.

Who knows.


I would suggest that you nor I certainly don't know.

Though perhaps you like to think that you know.


Maybe someone unreliably informed you that there was a GOD, who had given them instructions.

Or maybe not.


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Are you saying slavery is worse than abortion?

So killing innocent life is not as bad or not worst than keeping it alive under ownership.

So living slaves is worse than killing slaves.
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Nope, I said what I said.


Killing life or life ending is a normal phenomena.

As is ideologically inspired melodrama.


I personally am not ideologically over-emotionalised, so therefore have no problem with early term abortion, within strict legal guidelines.

You may have been inspired differently.

Neither of us is right and neither of us is wrong.


If you think that you are right, then prove it.

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So you say yes, slavery is worst than abortion.
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No, I didn't say yes slavery was worse than abortion.

I gave you an assessment of the proposition, and made suggestions relative to certain criteria.

If one were to modify criteria, one might make alternative suggestions.


So:

If you want a Yes or No answer.

Give me two very specific and detailed examples of abortion and slavery.


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I'm just speaking in general. So if your yes and no depends on the scenario, that tells me , depending on the scenario obviously, abortion can be worse than slavery.

So we're kind of getting you there.
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@Mall
I was just speaking in general too.

And generally speaking, slavery is worse than abortion.

But yes, a more extreme abortion scenario would perhaps momentarily be worse than a slavery event.

But who for...The participants or the spectators.



So here's a couple of questions for you.

1. Which is worse?

The mental anguish of a slave.

Or the mental anguish of an anti-abortionist.


2. At what point of cellular division, is a developing human capable of experiencing mental anguish?
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I don't know.