MAGA MORONS say Presidents have broad immunity. This certainly must apply to Vice Presidents as well

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So all this talk about Biden improperly demanding the Ukraine attorney general be fired before loaning money must be a ruse.

Of course Biden was acting on the policy of the Obama Administration, the U.S. State Department and the international community but even still, 

if he hadn’t been following government policy he still would be immune, logically speaking.

But MAGA MORONS aren’t into logic.
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The Supreme Court says:

If Trump tells the Justice Department to “declare the election a fraud and just let the Republican Congressmen take it from there”

“that’s all perfectly legal and within the scope of a Presidential “official act””

So I guess the Biden could order Seal Team 6 to kill Trump and Biden would be immune.

“Trump’s conversations with Justice Department officials after Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory cannot be used as evidence. The majority of the court also signaled that other significant parts of the prosecution case could be tossed out.
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Robert’s wrote this:

In general, Roberts said Monday that presidential immunity from prosecution is necessary to ensure an “energetic, independent executive” as designed by the framers and to avoid an executive branch that “cannibalizes itself, with each successive President free to prosecute his predecessors, yet unable to boldly and fearlessly carry out his duties for fear that he may be next.”

And I thought the framers were interested in limiting the power of the executive so he can’t act like King George III. 
I feel like such a fool now.
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“The majority was emphatic in its ruling Monday that Trump’s discussions with Justice Department officials after the 2020 election, trying to convince them to aggressively pursue his unfounded claims of election fraud, were shielded by presidential immunity.“

Isn’t that beautiful? Isn’t that pure legal genius?

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So I guess the Biden could order Seal Team 6 to kill Trump and Biden would be immune.
Tru-dat!
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Apparently Biden also can consult with the Justice Department and encourage them to investigate and prosecute Republicans and that would be completely within the scope of his official duties according to the Supreme Court. See below

“Trump’s efforts after the 2020 election to get the Justice Department to investigate and promote false claims of large-scale vote tampering may have been improper, the majority wrote, but that does not “divest the President of exclusive authority over the investigative and prosecutorial functions of the Justice Department and its officials.”
The president, the Supreme Court said, “may discuss potential investigations and prosecutions with his Attorney General and other Justice Department officials.”


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Apparently Biden also can consult with the Justice Department and encourage them to investigate and prosecute Republicans and that would be completely within the scope of his official duties according to the Supreme Court. See below
This is terrible.  If this happens then people like Trump, Steve Bannon, and Roger stone may end up facing criminal charges for clear bullshit reasons 
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This is terrible.  If this happens then people like Trump, Steve Bannon, and Roger stone may end up facing criminal charges for clear bullshit reasons 
Well apparently MAGA MORONS think that scenario is totally appropriate.

However, those 3 individuals all broke the law.

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However, those 3 individuals all broke the law.
Well yeah even if the president orders an investigation they will still claim that is a premise. You will never see a legal system claim they are prosecuting innocent people
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Well yeah even if the president orders an investigation they will still claim that is a premise
We will get a legal system that knowingly prosecutes innocent people (like in Russia) if Trump is reelected.

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We will get a legal system that knowingly prosecutes innocent people (like in Russia) if Trump is reelected.
You should read the book 3 felonies a day, written by a left leaning law professor. He explains how literally nobody is actually innocent.
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This is the real thread on the decision please take all comments over there

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/11296-dissenting-supreme-court-judge-urges-biden-to-assassinate-trump
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He explains how literally nobody is actually innocent.
Why?

Just because every adult breaks the law every day?

Yeah, we all already know that. I mean, its not like people are unaware that they are speeding, endangering lives, polluting, feeding kids junk food...ect.

But yeah, sometimes society falls so deep in delusion that they commit crimes every day yet think that they are all law abiding citizens.

I dont think that there is a cure for that delusion tho.
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Remember folks, the Supreme Court now says conspiracy by  the President with other government officials is totally legal!

Sounds a lot like -   “Well, when the president does it … that means that it is not illegal” R. Nixon, 1977

Or  something a King would say.
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Remember folks, the Supreme Court now says conspiracy by the President with other government officials is totally legal
It always has been, are you new? They are pretty much all evil.
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It always has been, are you new? They are pretty much all evil.
I see, but you like Trump doing it because at least he is racist?

But remind me which other President tried or succeeded in stealing his election 
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I see, but you like Trump doing it because at least he is racist?

But remind me which other President tried or succeeded in stealing his election
JfK and George Bush. Also the 19th president stole his election. It has occurred 3 times
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I see, but you like Trump doing it because at least he is racist
The enemy of my enemy Is my friend. If the media hates somebody, corporations and the political elites in both parties, they are a threat to their corruptiom
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Roosevelt - bigots are bad

Also Roosevelt- any white person who makes less than 100k a year is a bad person
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JfK and George Bush. Also the 19th president stole his election. It has occurred 3 times
JFK had some ballot boxes stuffed in Illinois.

Bush used his brother to bend the rules in Florida allowing Republican operatives to amend some absentee ballots that had missing signatures or information.

That’s a far cry from what Trump tried to do. He basically told all his MAGA MORONS a bunch of lies that the election was fraudulent. Trump is a subversive 

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Also Roosevelt- any white person who makes less than 100k a year is a bad person
No, just one of life’s losers.

I know you are poor. You had a hard life. But that’s no reason to support a dictator.


Wylted: there’s nothing wrong with bigots, unless they are bigoted against poor white people like me.
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That’s a far cry from what Trump tried to do. He basically told all his MAGA MORONS a bunch of lies that the election was fraudulent. Trump is a subversive 
So every Maga person has a low IQ? If I found one with an IQ of 140, would you kill yourself for being dumber than a Maga moron?

know you are poor. You had a hard life. But that’s no reason to support a dictator.
ThThat'literally what you guys said in 2016. That he was literally hitlwr and would definitely genocide jews when he got into office. Will you apologize in 2028 when nobody got put into a concentration camp and people can afford groceries again?
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and people can afford groceries again?
Explain to me your logic in detail how grocery prices went up due to some action or policy that Biden implemented.

Exactly what did Biden do to cause grocery prices to go up? Since you have such a high IQ I’m sure you could write at least 500 words off the top of your head to answer.
Do not just sent me a link . Tell me in your own brilliant, highly educated words.

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Explain to me your logic in detail how grocery prices went up due to some action or policy that Biden implemented.
He is the ruler of America, he has to take some accountability for what happens when he is in office. 

Do not just sent me a link . Tell me in your own brilliant, highly educated words.
You literally just do drive by posts and you want me to do a high effort post? 
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He is the ruler of America, he has to take some accountability for what happens when he is in office. 
Gee that is a really well thought out and well researched answer. You must really have a high IQ. I mean only someone with superior natural intelligence could come up with that response.

You literally just do drive by posts and you want me to do a high effort post?
Then STFU about inflation and grocery bills. You obviously have no fucking idea why grocery prices increased in 2021.

If we got more rain in 2021 you would be just as likely to say Biden caused it to rain more and you would be just as clueless about why it rained more as you are clueless about why groceries went up.

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He is the ruler of America, he has to take some accountability for what happens when he is in office. 
This isn't how logic works. President's are not gods, their job is to make decisions that will have the best impact on the circumstances they are faced with, they do not have the power to dictate what those circumstances will be.

Trump's job when he took office was to not fuck up the strong and growing economy Obama left him - the one you remembered so fondly before. Biden's job was to clean up the mess left by a global pandemic that Trump terribly mismanaged. To compare the job the two did by comparing the circumstances under each is absurd and I've already explained why to you in detail.

No matter how many times your nonsense gets debunked you just keep going around repeating it. You have no mechanism for self correction, you just believe whatever you want to believe because you want to believe it. It's no wonder you're voting for Trump.
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Then STFU about inflation and grocery bills. You obviously have no fucking idea why grocery prices increased in 2021.
This is dumb. Clearly if you are in charge of something you are responsible for it. If you have a kid and they end up a serial killer or a doctor it is your fault. 

You don't get to claim that it was somebody else's fault. 

Biden promised to make the country better and the country is worse. He needs to accept responsibility 
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This is dumb. Clearly if you are in charge of something you are responsible for it. 
No, that’s false. Biden isn’t in charge of grocery prices 

If you have a kid and they end up a serial killer or a doctor it is your fault.
Another stupid statement. Do you work in food service because of your parents?

Biden promised to make the country better and the country is worse. He needs to accept responsibility
Trump promised to Make America Great Again and over a million Americans died from a pandemic that he botched the response to.

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No matter how many times your nonsense gets debunked you just keep going around repeating it. You have no mechanism for self correction, you just believe whatever you want to believe because you want to believe it. It's no wonder you're voting for Trump.
That’s why they are known as MAGA MORONS 

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