Men, do you agree that women are always right?

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Broadly speaking, there’s an unspoken rule in societies that women are always right in relationships, and that a man should tread carefully when he explicitly rejects his gf’s wishes. When domestic and cohabitation issues arise, a man should listen thoughtfully and ensure in all the right ways that his spouse woud “glow” at the end of their dispute.


Personally, i’ve had firsthand experience in this. My GF would whine a lot about my liberal use of kitchen supplies, even after i’ve devoted my share of the housework. It became a persistent theme in our lives together, and we’d eventually lock horns on trivial things, like arranging plates and washing the sink. I told her that I need the kitchen because it is like my home, second only to my work. She said that she prefers I follow her arrangements, and that I’ll be able to cook/clean if and only if i fulfill her conditions. But when I said “no” to her, she became cold and refused to even indulge in our relationship. Her comments on my work became distant, and her written words became symbols. i’m aware it’s a bad outcome when my own gf starts using emojis as feedback on my work. 


Do you agree I should mind myself and not “rock the boat”? That i should help her glow instead by agreeing to her conditions?
For those of you who are married, what is the key to a lifelong success and happiness in your relationships?

(You don’t really have to answer my questions, you could just offer your unique opinion)
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I don't give a shit about her opinion. Maybe she is right, I don't know because I don't listen to her bullshit
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You need to take her opinion into account but this looks like a shit test. If you fail it and bend to her will, she will think you are less of a man for bending to her will. 

Honestly, if she has bad behavior like being short with you with the symbols, just refuse to engage. Do not reward bad behavior. It honestly makes their pussy wet, when they lose these battles to you
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Whats the point of thinking that women are always right?

A woman can be replaced with porn or sex doll.

At least those two wont yell at you and complain all the time about dumb things.
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But statistically speaking, women are wrong in most cases.

Letting a woman run the house just means a disaster. Take example of single mothers and the failure rates of their children.
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I think you should stand up for yourself a little. Healthy relationships stem from both people involved being equal, and being open. Your partner may not know that you need something. I know it sounds so sappy, but communication really is key.
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communication really is key.
Lol, are you a virgin or a female? 
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I don't know if I agree, let me ask my wife, she will tell me what my opinion is, and then I can tell you what my opinion is.
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I received INTJ. This free test is as contemporary as the comments that you'd normally discover on reddit. So it isn't entirely accurate, but I'm more of a solid INFP. The description for INFPs is well-written albeit a bit too positive and optimistic.

I'd say around 95% of my personality is close to an INFP. The other 5% is that  I'm never insecure around my friends, and I'd never have second thoughts about them. I've only ever had successful friends. I'm also unapologetic about being a hermit when it comes to my habits. My feelings are more likely my own, and I care little for what others are currently feeling. In other words, I don't take in the "feelings" of the room. Memory use is also a very dark thing for me, and would only resurface in extreme stress.
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I don't give a shit about her opinion. Maybe she is right, I don't know because I don't listen to her bullshit
There's a difference between being aloof and helping your wife. Do you help her shine if she asks you for a favor? Is your marriage more individualistic or do you move as a "we" (a team)?

You need to take her opinion into account but this looks like a shit test. If you fail it and bend to her will, she will think you are less of a man for bending to her will. 

Honestly, if she has bad behavior like being short with you with the symbols, just refuse to engage.
It does look like a shit test. I'm seeking understanding, and I'm trying to see her perspective.

Do not reward bad behavior. It honestly makes their pussy wet, when they lose these battles to you
Lol. Is that the key to your lifelong success as a partner? I'm not entirely familiar with western culture, the expats here often keep to themselves.

I think you should stand up for yourself a little. Healthy relationships stem from both people involved being equal, and being open. Your partner may not know that you need something. I know it sounds so sappy, but communication really is key.
We have communicated. When I apostatized and became a Christian, she was willing to accept me even though she remains a staunch militant atheist. Our values merge really well, and our ideas intersect a lot. However, domestic issues remain a thorn for us.

I owe her because when my abusive islamic parents arrived and demanded my stuff with overt threats like "we funded your ticket and travel since your scholarship didn't provide that at all. we need to look at your laptop", she  sort of stood up for me and manipulated my parents even for a little bit. She directed them away and basically locked the door when they visit a second time. She also became vehemently angry when her own christian parents arrived to demand her to find a better bf. Her reaction was more open and threatening, because neighbors heard her threats and were frowning on both of us. Anyway, she's willing to disown her own parents so I do feel like i have to "give and take" in the kitchen dilemma. Both of us don't value our parents at all, but she stands more to lose since her parents live at least a few blocks away from us.

She doesn't manage the kitchen, because I do almost all of the cleaning and cooking. She just insisted that I follow her advice because she's irritated that I'd change the kitchen from time to time.
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I'd say around 95% of my personality is close to an INFP.

what about your gf ?
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There's a difference between being aloof and helping your wife. Do you help her shine if she asks you for a favor? Is your marriage more individualistic or do you move as a "we" (a team)?
Women will fight you on every little thing . They are incapable of equal relationships, I have tried it. You move as a team by being in charge and being above the silly power plays. 

It does look like a shit test. I'm seeking understanding, and I'm trying to see her perspective.
You are supposed to be a rock. They need to trust your perspective. 

Ideally you do try to gage their feelings and get their opinions so you avoid blind spots but if you take it too seriously they'll walk all over you, because for her it isn't about what she wants but it is about testing you to see if you can actually be a leader. She doesn't even know what she's doing but that is in fact what is occurring. 

Lol. Is that the key to your lifelong success as a partner? I'm not entirely familiar with western culture, the expats here often keep to themselves.
It is, and you have to remember that if you are a dick to her and she responds positively and is better behaved for it, then don’t stop being a dick as a reward. She obviously likes it so continue being a dick but maybe reward her with some date nights etc. 

She doesn't manage the kitchen, because I do almost all of the cleaning and cooking. She just insisted that I follow her advice because she's irritated that I'd change the kitchen from time to time.
Honestly after hearing about your relationship, maybe just let her have the kitchen dude. 

Women generally are the ones who focus on designing the house, decorating it and determining how it should look. 

She seems cool
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what about your gf ?
She's a bit more like an INTJ. The library that I frequent would generally feel intimidated whenever she's around. She once steamrolled a worker to do her printing job. I didn't mind, because i generally care little for what others feel. She's more combative with people not doing their work, but she's silent whenever suffering is encountered (i.e. seeing a homeless man on the street will likely garner significant emotion in me but nothing in her). That should be INTJ, i don't exactly read the test with a critical eye, it's the first time i've read them. You're probably a better judge tbh.
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Thanks, I will keep your advice in my thoughts. You really have good insight into these things. 
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Actually I visited one of your threads today and saw that you've tagged yourself as an INTP in the title. Welp, as i understanding the 16 personalities, it looks like we both suck at judging people LOL.
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it looks like we both suck at judging people LOL.
rushing to judgement is overrated
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I'd say around 95% of my personality is close to an INFP.
did you notice your percentages on each characteristic ?

i'm between 78% and 100% on all four - -

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She's a bit more like an INTJ.
i'd consider asking her to take the test and check the result with her

women seem to like it when you "want to get to know them better"

also

there's one thing to keep in mind when taking the test

take the test with the idea of how you would answer "when you are comfortable and with friends" and keep that score as #1

take the test again with the idea of how you would answer "when you're at a new job and around strangers" and keep that score as #2


your "type" is not usually going to be a "static object"

we tend towards certain generalized solutions, but we all adjust to our environments to some degree
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Didn't save it, but I think I have around 60% on Introversion, Intuition and Prospecting. I had approximately 75% on Feeling.
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The edit didn't go through. Guess there was a time limit. It's the same reply to the test's glaring weaknesses. I'll just redo it again.

...women seem to like it when you "want to get to know them better"
She does like my affections. I could probably ease her into the test after dipping into her emotions whenever I'm being romantic.

...towards certain generalized solutions, but we all adjust to our environments to some degree.

I believe emotion isn't necessarily a decision maker. If I'm unaffected by those around me, I'm likely to cultivate my own range of emotions. They help me develop complex ideas especially with sensitive topics like homelessness and cruelty. Even if a homeless person's emotion remain completely unreachable to me, his impression would leave much cultivation for my feelings. A dead chicken provides the same effect. I need not take issue with the butcher like a judgemental feeler, but I can take in the chicken's last moments of pain as unique impressions for my sentiments. I think this doesn't come with disadvantages, though, because i sincerely believe INFPs will make bad campaigners/activists.

I think the test also fails to take note of the purpose of friendship/romance, which is to be in 2 different places at the same time. If i'm talking/romancing with a friend/spouse, I have to somehow 'live' in his place or transfer part of my being to him. After all, I am networking with him. The point of friendship isn't about insecurities; it's about the cultivation of 2 distinct individuals. If I am a musician, my friend/partner can be a poet. I can't function without a poet to read over my work, and he can't function without a musician to inspire him. 



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I could care less if a man or woman thinks they are right about everything. My actions dictate weather or not I think someone is right or wrong.
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Women are always right.  When they cheat on their husbands, they are right.  When a woman becomes a single mother, she is always right.  When women don't get perfect SAT scores, they are always right.

A woman's instinct is never wrong friends.  Anyone that believes women make roughly as many mistakes as men is a misogynistic sexist who defends rape.
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Always check out the Parents.


If the Mum's a nag and the Dad's henpecked,


Think on.
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I don't know if I agree, let me ask my wife, she will tell me what my opinion is, and then I can tell you what my opinion is.

Smart man. Women like smart men.
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But when I said “no” to her, she became cold and refused to even indulge in our relationship.
it sounds like she's the one paying rent and buying the kitchen supplies

is this the case ?
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Send pics. 
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it sounds like she's the one paying rent and buying the kitchen supplies

is this the case ?
Rent is half each, but all of the apartment decor are pretty much hers. I do the housework. Chores are never shared, but she does want a predictable routine from me which i don't seem to do well. I do change the decor from time to time and i never buy my own. 
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Rent is half each, but all of the apartment decor are pretty much hers. I do the housework. Chores are never shared, but she does want a predictable routine from me which i don't seem to do well. I do change the decor from time to time and i never buy my own. 

ok, that does sort of change the landscape of the situation


i've always been in a position where i pretty much pay for 100% of everything

but of course, that doesn't keep my partner from making ridiculous demands


it's important to "stand-up-for-yourself" sometimes, but not always

try to "pick-your-battles"

if this kitchen thing is important to you, stick to your guns

maybe buy your own dishes and only use those