Rural America is rapidly shrinking. Bye bye Trump country!

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No idea what you are talking about. There is no shoe on the other foot, there is no equivalence to the detachment from reality on the right vs the left.
You guys are literally cutting your dicks off and saying "look I trusted the science"
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I was in a rural town once like 5 years ago. Much safer than my current city of Wilmington Delaware  

I think it was pigeon Forge, Tennessee. I literally saw like zero crime. I was staying in one of the cheaper hotels also. I couldn't stay in the cheap hotels in Wilmington without being a victim of some crime
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I have always lived in big cities. I can't wait to retire and live in some rural area. Probably not pigeon forge the one place I visited but I looked at Bryson NC when googling. It looks pleasant 
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I think you know walking through the ghetto is more dangerous than walking through a Walmart in rural Alabama and seeing a hunch of rednecks with guns on them. 
Sure… when you’re white.
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You guys are literally cutting your dicks off and saying "look I trusted the science"
First of all, who is “you guys”? My dick is doing just fine, thank you.

Second, what was supposed to be your point? Trans rights and science have nothing to do with each other.
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Sure… when you’re white.
Even black people are safer in low crime areas. This myth that rednecks in Walmart are looking to shoot random black people is silly.

Second, what was supposed to be your point? Trans rights and science have nothing to do with each other.
Correct, a lot of the science it is founded on was debunked in the 60s. So they are working with shit that literally was disproven over 50 years ago.

Also I am not sure what you mean by Trans rights, I assume you mean what your average democrat means, which is a mother with manchausens is celebrated as a hero for mutilating her 9 year old, or that feminine gay boys are now girls because their mom is a limousine liberal and wants to seem posh.
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First of all, who is “you guys”? My dick is doing just fine, thank you.
Doubt, if you are really getting your policy from your emotions, rather than logic, it's a feminine trait and low T is usually the cause of that. 
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Correct, a lot of the science it is founded on was debunked in the 60s. So they are working with shit that literally was disproven over 50 years ago.
Hell, most democrats are relying on long debunked eugenics science from 100 years ago to base their skin policies...in 2024... bunch of racists trusting junk science that says you don't know what a computer is or can't get a photo ID if your skin is black...

Party of science my asshole. You can tell who is a democrat today simply if they are wearing a Fauci face diaper in 2024 thinking it will flatten the curve.
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Party of science my asshole. You can tell who is a democrat today simply if they are wearing a Fauci face diaper in 2024 thinking it will flatten the curve.
Most of the ones I see still wearing it also have their nose exposed so essentially doing it to look cool or something 
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New York has a huge problem with criminals still wearing masks and getting away with crime. Now they are trying to make a ban on facemasks except for "medical exemptions"

Somehow, every criminal curiously has the exact same "medical exemption" to the mask ban....

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Trump is only behind like 9% in New York, so they may get enough candidates in the area who will do something about the general feeling of being unsafe and actually make the place safer with down ballot people benefiting from this.
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Anything other than the current far-left elites would be an improvement.
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Rural areas are literally bitching about California residents moving to them and then voting for the same policies that made California unlivable. I live in a blue area. It is very unsafe and I will be moving to crime free rural America at my first opportunity to get away from these thugs and idiots
You think putting a thug and idiot into the white house is a solution?
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This myth that rednecks in Walmart are looking to shoot random black people is silly.
So is the myth that people in “the ghetto” are looking to shoot random people.

Second, what was supposed to be your point? Trans rights and science have nothing to do with each other.
Correct, a lot of the science it is founded on was debunked in the 60s.
Trans rights isn’t a science issue. It’s about respecting people for who they are. This framing by the political right of trans rights conversations as some denial of empirical reality is just plain stupid.

Also I am not sure what you mean by Trans rights, I assume you mean what your average democrat means, which is a mother with manchausens is celebrated as a hero for mutilating her 9 year old, or that feminine gay boys are now girls because their mom is a limousine liberal and wants to seem posh.
Let me know when you’d like to have a serious conversation.
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Doubt, if you are really getting your policy from your emotions, rather than logic
Says someone who would vote for Donald Trump

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So is the myth that people in “the ghetto” are looking to shoot random people.
Incorrect but random acts of violence are more likely to occur
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Trans rights isn’t a science issue. It’s about respecting people for who they are. This framing by the political right of trans rights conversations as some denial of empirical reality is just plain stupid.

Literally everyone thinks Trans people should have the same rights as anyone else. The left is looking to cut the dicks off of kids and put porn in elementary school libraries though and opposing that is not an opposition to the bill of rights applying to Trans people

Says someone who would vote for Donald Trump
Yes, I would like to be able to afford to eat out again like I could when he was in office and am not a fan of weaponizing thej
 Justice system. There is nothing more anti democratic than that. 
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The left is looking to cut the dicks off of kids and put porn in elementary school libraries
This is the cartoonification of politics. No serious person on the left is looking to do any of these things, this is the absurd depiction of the left fed to you by right wing propaganda. If this is the demon you plan to battle then we can’t have a conversation because you’re battling your own imagination.

Yes, I would like to be able to afford to eat out again like I could when he was in office
Yes, Obama’s economy which Trump inherited was great.

am not a fan of weaponizing the Justice system. There is nothing more anti democratic than that.
Agreed, that’s why one would think we could all agree that the guy threatening to weaponize it, the guy who said he plans to be a dictator on day one, the guy who has made explicitly clear that he plans to use his second term to seek retribution, the you who mused about locking up Hillary Clinton just a few weeks ago despite her having absolutely nothing to do with anything going on… is the guy we would all point to and say that guy shouldn’t be president.

Instead you pretend that someone being held accountable for obvious crimes that he did commit is “weaponization” of the law. It’s a flagrant inverse of reality.
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This is the cartoonification of politics. No serious person on the left is looking to do any of these things, this is the absurd depiction of the left fed to you by right wing propaganda. If this is the demon you plan to battle then we can’t have a conversation because you’re battling your own imagination.
If you don't support that you are likely in the wrong party. Remember I actually have debated leftists and have been one. It's no strawman

Yes, Obama’s economy which Trump inherited was great.
Yes with democrats it is the guy before you if you were a republican who did great, but if you are a Democrat who did bad it was the guy before you. A Democrat who did great, well that was all him. 

Agreed, that’s why one would think we could all agree that the guy threatening to weaponize it, the guy who said he plans to be a dictator on day one
Obvious joke referring to the record amount of executive order Biden gave day one, which was referenced in the same conversation. Plus are you really saying somebody threatening to weaponize the justice system is more of a threat than the people actually doing it?

Instead you pretend that someone being held accountable for obvious crimes that he did commit is “weaponization” of the law. It’s a flagrant inverse of reality.
Yes, dude literally was charged for calling payments to a lawyer, legal expenses in the quick books drop down menu. If it wasn't Trump you know this prosecution would not happen.


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Your grandfather was a skinhead? Gee, you must be so proud.
Mark Kelly is a skinhead; what's your point?

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Yes, Obama’s economy which Trump inherited was great.
This is such a dumb excuse for any bad president. I am so sick and tire of this inane "dog ate my homework" excuse from both sides. It implies that not only can a president do nothing good for the economy while in office for 4 years, that he could also never do anything bad in 4 years to hurt the economy. Only a cult-like toddler brain could imagine such a lame excuse.

Trans rights isn’t a science issue. It’s about respecting people for who they are. This framing by the political right of trans rights conversations as some denial of empirical reality is just plain stupid.
It's gone so far above and beyond "respecting people" and "equal treatment"

Straight people don't get a month dedicated to them. Straight people don't get to imprison gay people if they leave skid marks on the "straight pride flag" that government officials painted on the public street. Straight people don't have classrooms decked out in heterosexual family propaganda. Straight people don't get reminded how wonderful, and how great it is to be in the elevated and protected class of being straight and encourage people to join them in that special class at an early age when they have no clue how society functions except when they are excluded from group activities. Reverse discrimination is still discrimination, and isn't anywhere close to "equal and fair treatment." This is literally mandated time to glorify a social class with the threat of prison time. A society that glorifies mental illness will become a dysfunctional society, and the adults in the room need to speak up and defy the government powers that want to pick at the corpse of a dying society.
 


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You can understand this wokeness better when you think of it as a religion. It helped me anyway. 

Another way I learned about it is to study intersectionality and consider how that is applied to woke ideology or with woke ideology expanded to special classes of people
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Hate crimes is straight up 1984 thought policing.
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If you don't support that you are likely in the wrong party. Remember I actually have debated leftists and have been one. It's no strawman
I don’t support that, and neither does any prominent figure on the political left. This is what we are always talking about when we refer to right wing culture war nonsense. If you take issue with whatever treatment some child out there with gender dysphoria is receiving, take it up with that child’s family and their doctor who made that decision. If you take issue with whatever library decided to carry whatever publication you find objectionable, take it up with the library or if applicable whatever school board member made that decision. But putting these grievances at the forefront of our national politics is just silly.

The left isn’t promoting these things, we’re just rolling our eyes at all the right wing chicken littles running around pretending that this is the issue of our time.

Yes with democrats it is the guy before you if you were a republican who did great, but if you are a Democrat who did bad it was the guy before you.
The difference between democrats and republicans is democrats recognize that reality is far more complicated than “good economy = President good, bad economy = President bad”.

In 2017 Trump took over an economy that had been growing for seven straight years, and in the following years under Trump there was no meaningful change. In fact there were more jobs created in the prior 3 years under Obama than the first 3 years under Trump, so job creation actually slowed down.

Biden meanwhile inherited an economy that had entirely collapsed under Trump to a degree we hadn’t seen in our lifetime. And the biggest talking point against “Biden’s economy” is a global phenomenon that the US happens to be handling better than every other developed nation on earth.

So no, it’s not as cartoonishly simple as you pretend. Moreover, your own argument according to your own logic makes no sense. If your argument is that president’s are responsible for whatever happens during their time in office then you don’t get to pretend “the Trump years” excludes 2020 when the US economy cratered. It’s funny how many right wingers seem to think that Trump gets a pass on Covid while holding Biden responsible for the mess it created.

are you really saying somebody threatening to weaponize the justice system is more of a threat than the people actually doing it?
No one is “actually doing it”. Trump is being held accountable for the obvious crimes he committed, and that effort is going through all of the proper legal channels.

The best argument you have for a weaponized justice system is the NY trial that just ended which I’ve argued it’s legitimacy extensively on this site. The funny thing there is that this trial has absolutely nothing to do with Biden or the federal government. These were state charges brought by a state prosecutor adjudicated by a state judge and decided upon by a state jury, so to claim this as evidence against Biden is just not serious.

But with regards to Trump, yes his threats are absolutely to be taken serious. The president of the United States won’t be the person making prosecutorial decisions, that will be handled by the people he puts in place. And not only are the people Trump would consider explicitly stating their intentions here, but Trump is giving us every queue we could possibly ask for as to what he wants done. They will follow his lead. That’s not speculation, it’s basic human nature and the example set by these two men could not possibly be any different.

Yes, dude literally was charged for calling payments to a lawyer, legal expenses in the quick books drop down menu. If it wasn't Trump you know this prosecution would not happen.
Paying off a porn star to stay silent ahead of an election is not a legal expense, unless you’re about to argue Stormy Daniel’s was performing legal work for Trump.

The reason they went after Trump is because of the seriousness of this crime. The prosecutors allege and the jury agreed that the purpose of this whole scheme was to illegally impact the presidential election, and given the circumstances it might have actually made the difference. If you don’t think that is worth a prosecutors efforts to pursue I don’t know what else can be said to you.
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This is such a dumb excuse for any bad president. I am so sick and tire of this inane "dog ate my homework" excuse from both sides. It implies that not only can a president do nothing good for the economy while in office for 4 years, that he could also never do anything bad in 4 years to hurt the economy.
Strawman arguments usually are dumb, that’s why you love to create them. Apparently refuting arguments you made up makes you feel smart.