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He said it is. You only get a straight affiliation confirmation on rare circumstances so you have to just see if he is lying when it comes time to confirm and you have to judge for yourself if the role is scummy. There are no straight answers in these games. I even saw a mod create a role called ghost writer that allowed a person to write a phrase at the end of each DPs 1st post. 

The person used it to make it look like the mod confirmed somebody as guilty. 


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@WyIted
If he’s confirmable, I would trust him with the shirt, and if he gives a non confirmable role but a good fitting one, I might also trust him.

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@WyIted
He said it is. You only get a straight affiliation confirmation on rare circumstances so you have to just see if he is lying when it comes time to confirm and you have to judge for yourself if the role is scummy. There are no straight answers in these games.
Fair enough, I suppose. I've been townreading Pie so far, so while I would still like to know what his supposedly confirmable role is, if we're not going to get it this DP, I'm fine with that as long as he genuinely does confirm himself next DP.

I'm down with the plan to lynch Savant, but before I vote, what are everyone's thoughts on giving away the 1x vigilante power? Moozer just said he'd give it to Pie, while Earth didn't want us to use it iirc. Personally, I'm not sure how to feel, but I think it'd be a bit of a waste to let it go to no one.
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the 1x vigilante power
idk yet 
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Honestly the power just isn't thay important. It's importance in the hands of scum is immense but it the hands of town it is negligible.  I personally like being a vig because I am the type of individual who will use it every single night because it doubles town directed kills but it's not important. No need to be overly distracted by it

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I am also not the type to ever admit to being a vig because when I am vig, everyone things there is an SK in the game
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what are everyone's thoughts on giving away the 1x vigilante power
Wylted should get it, I don't know why this is even a discussion. He's basically confirmed.
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And if lynching me is what it takes for you to be willing to lynch Pie, then I already said I'm down for that. He's unlikely to confirm himself tomorrow, because scum will either roleblock him or he will claim he was roleblocked (likely the latter). If he "confirms" himself, he's been the first one to say role confirmation is not affiliation confirmation, so idk why we should give him any town cred for that.
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My experience with pie is that he is lazy as scum. It's why I am having a difficult time thinking about it. Maybe he has changed but normally I can easily peg him as scum when he is. I just also usually have to shut up about it because like when I pegged Austin as scum early last game, everyone wants to gaslight me to back down. 

I don't feel like he is scum at the moment. He is not sending any clear signals
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He was not lazy in Invincible mafia, when he was scum.
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Wylted should get it, I don't know why this is even a discussion.
Wylted doesn't really want it though, and Earth wants us to ignore it as well. Barney can't vote for the shirt, so even if everyone else was on board, we couldn't give the vig power to anyone.
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I do want it and I definitely will use it, but flip a coin prior to doing it to randomize whether I use it NP1 or NP2 to stop any potential redirection
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Protective roles should be on WyIted tonight.
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Redirector with vig role is possible but unlikely without a bastard mod
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Unless I was supposed to use a stolen vote to get the power so scum wouldn't know who had it. Whoops.
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Savant is hardcore tunneling Pie.
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We need more votes on the shirt to give Wyited the whale!

Wylted is lynchproof, therefore town.
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What's vote count on the shirt right now?
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On phone rn

2 votes on shirt I believe 
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VTL RVSLTS
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@WyIted
Unvote the shirt so you can hammer
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unvote
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Vote for the shirt so WyIted can hammer.
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Do not vote for the shirt. WyIted is hammering.
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@Savant
Don't you have 2 votes or does it not count for the shirt?
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Earth's vote on the shirt counts, if you look at vote total earlier.
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But Earth's vote counts as one regardless of whether he or I puts it on the shirt.
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Makes sense . I got it. 
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I never expected to get the shirt anyway and I'd like it to go to a town member, so I have no problem voting for it.

VTL RESVLTS
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I think without a barney vote we need 100% compliance. The only way to actually get 100% compliance is if scum helps. So we may just need a hard rule that if a single person refuses to vote that we just lynch them. It will suck if it is a stubborn town member and not mafia, but we can not ensure compliance without a hard line in the sand