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@Greyparrot
“Oh no, you did-ent!”
Contempt of Congress.
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@cristo71
Hay! It was just an innocent question, I swear!
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@Double_R
It never ceases to amaze me how right wingers bend over backwards to justify both being outraged at the democrats weaponization of the justice department, and advocating for the republicans weaponization of the justice department… without plainly admitting that this entire pretend outrage session is really about nothing more than their own partisan hackery.
Democrats opened Pandora’s Box 🤷♂️
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@Double_R
What's really on the Biden tapes? The same damn thing we’ve already been made aware of through the transcripts and through the testimony of the special counsel appointed by Donald Trump. The only reason republicans want this is because they want to search for a soundbite they can use to slander Biden. It’s pathetic and this attempt to ask for something with no valid reason and then act as if the DOJ’s refusal to play their silly political game is somehow suspicious is just stupid.
So why not release the tapes? Oh, maybe because it will really show why Hur thought no jury would convict a bumbling old man like Joe Biden. The DoJ already admitted in court filings that they selectively edited the transcript to remove fillers and stuff like that. Don’t you think Americans deserve to know whether their Commander in Chief has the mental capacity to answer questions and not forget about things related to his own son. If he forgets that, what if he forgets the nuclear codes. You can call it politics all you want, but Americans have a legitimate interest in knowing whether they can be safe under another Biden administration.
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@ILikePie5
Democrats opened Pandora’s Box
This is exactly my point. You can’t pretend to value the rule of law when you show yourself to be more concerned with abusing it to exact revenge than to focus on ensuring it stays protected.
And if you don’t value it then you have nothing to be outraged about in the first place other than the sting of having been defeated, which is a pretty terrible talking point to convince people to support your cause, which is why you need to pretend to be outraged over something else.
So why not release the tapes?
Well first off because illegitimate requests should be ignored. This is like asking why the pentagon doesn’t give us full access to their video archive to prove flight 77 crashed there.
Second, because the Justice department has an obligation to protect the integrity of future investigations. As Donald Trump taught us, there really is no mechanism to enforce ensuring that presidents will cooperate with special counsel investigations. If the precedent is set that the opposing party can demand that every minute of tape of their interviews be released publicly that pretty much guarantees that no future president will cooperate.
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@Double_R
This is exactly my point. You can’t pretend to value the rule of law when you show yourself to be more concerned with abusing it to exact revenge than to focus on ensuring it stays protected.And if you don’t value it then you have nothing to be outraged about in the first place other than the sting of having been defeated, which is a pretty terrible talking point to convince people to support your cause, which is why you need to pretend to be outraged over something else.
Unilateral surrender isn’t an option because then Dems will keep doing it.
Well first off because illegitimate requests should be ignored. This is like asking why the pentagon doesn’t give us full access to their video archive to prove flight 77 crashed there.
Why is it illegitimate to request testimony that a President gave in his criminal investigation by a special counsel.
Second, because the Justice department has an obligation to protect the integrity of future investigations.
What integrity? They already released the transcript with the information. What information that needs integrity is remaining that’s not in the transcript but is on the tapes?
As Donald Trump taught us, there really is no mechanism to enforce ensuring that presidents will cooperate with special counsel investigations. If the precedent is set that the opposing party can demand that every minute of tape of their interviews be released publicly that pretty much guarantees that no future president will cooperate.
But the transcript was already released…Are you saying that the transcript is inaccurate and DoJ purposefully left things out that are damaging. Otherwise there is no other information that is damaging to integrity.
We also already know what happens when Presidents refuse to comply. Nixon found that out the hard way.
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@WyIted
That was quite obviously a reference to Biden doing a record amount of executive orders day 1.
No, no it wasn’t. I doubt Trump has any idea what goes on outside his own little world.
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@WyIted
Imagine just for one second that Trump truly had no intention of being a dictator or abusing his power - that his values and principals truly aligned with that of the constitution. When asked whether he intended to be a dictator, wouldn’t he just say “no, of course not” rather than, “nope, except for day one”?That was quite obviously a reference to Biden doing a record amount of executive orders day 1.
Complete and total BS. Nothing Trump said while answering that question would lead anyone to that conclusion, you are just seeing what you want to see.
I think George Bush said it would be easier if he were a dictator and the left made similar statements that he was also about to genocide people and declare himself dictator.
The context was completely different. This kind of language has always been out there, but it has always been rhetorical. Never in our lifetimes and probably not ever have we as a nation had this conversation in a serious context and Trump is fully aware of what he is being accused of. This is an egregious false equivalence.
I know because I was a leftist then and was convinced he would cancel elections.
Then you were a terrible and uninformed leftist. No one who had a firm grasp of reality really thought these things.
Wouldn’t he when having his hand held by sycophantic interviewers practically begging him to say he is not going to abuse power just agree with them rather than talking about how he may have to do the same thing because it was done to him?I just saw an interview 5 minutes ago where he said he was going to be too focused fixing what is wrong with this country to have time for revenge.
This is literally the point of the saying “when someone shows you who they are, believe them”.
I genuinely can’t tell if this is a serious response or satire.
So he is likely going to be surrounded by libertarians, heritage foundation nation people and some boring VP pick. He is obviously using Roger stones playbook so it will be somebody like Marco Rubio, but not him.
He will be surrounding himself with MAGA loyalists who will pledge fealty to him over the constitution. This isn’t the same Trump we saw in 2015 who thought he could win everyone over with how amazing he was. This is someone who has declared war on his political opposition and he will ensure there are no guardrails against him and his impulses like we saw the first time.
What Trump learned and showed us all in the wake of January 6th is that our institutions are only as strong as the people running them. If a governor decided not to certify their election, if a county manager somewhere decided to do the same, he could have succeeded.
In 2020 the culture of this country was such that there were still enough people who would put country over party. What’s different in 2024 is that Trump has succeeded in dividing us to the point where the system is now ready to be taken over by people Trump has convinced that there is no longer election integrity or a rule of law. If his people get in this time I truly do not believe we will be strong enough to hold it.
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@WyIted
Yes it is a shithole because it is a blue state.
Let’s be clear. The blue state Americans pay all the bills for the red state Americans.
Blue state workers earn. Red state workers need help because they earn so little.
They also pay the bills for Ukraine. And 10% for the big guy.
Also, what do you think is on the audio tapes? Why is it so important to hide from the public?
What exactly would be on the audio tapes that isn’t in the transcript? Are you hoping to hear Biden stutter so you can claim he’s retarded?
That’s what it is isn’t it? Because you’re a little, little man.
They also pay the bills for Ukraine. And 10% for the big guy.
But Jared Kushner got billions from the Saudi government. I never hear you complain about that. Is that because you’re a MAGA MORON?
Yeah, when Biden cultists are in charge, Blue States get taxed to fund other countries and illegal invaders.
When maga morons are in charge, other countries invest in the USA.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Blue state workers earn. Red state workers need help because they earn so little.
Yeah the niggers in blue states on welfare are really paying for the mansions of rich people in Boca Raton.
When maga morons are in charge, other countries invest in the USA.
Invest? You mean bribe.
Yeah the niggers in blue states on welfare
There we go. There’s a true reflection of the typical MAGA MORON.
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@Double_R
This is exactly my point. You can’t pretend to value the rule of law when you show yourself to be more concerned with abusing it to exact revenge than to focus on ensuring it stays protected.And if you don’t value it then you have nothing to be outraged about in the first place other than the sting of having been defeated, which is a pretty terrible talking point to convince people to support your cause, which is why you need to pretend to be outraged over something else.
So it’s not okay to call out the Barbarians for breaking into Rome, and we should just sit here and do nothing. Gotcha.
Well first off because illegitimate requests should be ignored. This is like asking why the pentagon doesn’t give us full access to their video archive to prove flight 77 crashed there.
That makes no sense. There is a direct reason—whether Biden is the feeble old man that Hur said he is. Biden denies it. The tape either proves him right or wrong. Americans deserve to know.
Second, because the Justice department has an obligation to protect the integrity of future investigations. As Donald Trump taught us, there really is no mechanism to enforce ensuring that presidents will cooperate with special counsel investigations. If the precedent is set that the opposing party can demand that every minute of tape of their interviews be released publicly that pretty much guarantees that no future president will cooperate.
But the transcript was already released. And all of Nixon’s tapes were released. There is no “precedent.” Executive privilege is designed to prevent that release of items that would interfere with the operations of the presidency and separation of powers. Biden willingly already released the transcript and there is nothing of harm there. So why not the tape? Or is Biden and the DoJ guilty of altering the transcript and tapes, just like Nixon?
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@ILikePie5
So it’s not okay to call out the Barbarians for breaking into Rome, and we should just sit here and do nothing. Gotcha.
What do you think the term "ensure it (as in the rule of law) stays protected"... Means?
The fact that you gloss right over that and have no other concept of a response other than to abuse the rule of law yourself only makes my point that much clearer. You do not value the rule of law, period. So when you claim the democrats weaponized the rule of law, you have nothing to be upset about other than your own perceived failure to do it first.
There is a direct reason—whether Biden is the feeble old man that Hur said he is. Biden denies it. The tape either proves him right or wrong. Americans deserve to know.
Well thank you for admitting that this has no legitimate legal or legislative purpose but is purely political.
Biden willingly already released the transcript and there is nothing of harm there. So why not the tape?
Same question to you, since you're the one asking for it. If the transcript reveals the substance of the matter why do you need the tapes? Oh that's right, because this is purely political.
Or is Biden and the DoJ guilty of altering the transcript and tapes, just like Nixon?
The refusal of the DOJ to play your conspiracy theory games is not evidence of conspiracy.
Moreover, this is self defeating logic. If the DOJ was willing to put out doctored transcripts then there is no reason to believe they would not do the same with regards to the tapes. This is the problem with going down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole, there is no bottom to it.
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@Double_R
What do you think the term "ensure it (as in the rule of law) stays protected"... Means?The fact that you gloss right over that and have no other concept of a response other than to abuse the rule of law yourself only makes my point that much clearer. You do not value the rule of law, period. So when you claim the democrats weaponized the rule of law, you have nothing to be upset about other than your own perceived failure to do it first.
So you’re admitting the Dems are breaking the rule of law and there shouldn’t be consequences for it. Got it.
Well thank you for admitting that this has no legitimate legal or legislative purpose but is purely political.
Well I think the people ought to know if the President is mentally competent. And the method to know that is via their representatives in Congress who issued a lawful subpoena that Garland is ignoring.
Same question to you, since you're the one asking for it. If the transcript reveals the substance of the matter why do you need the tapes? Oh that's right, because this is purely political.
Because context matters? A 110 year old could have said what’s on a transcript, but are they competent to be the President? I don’t think so.
The refusal of the DOJ to play your conspiracy theory games is not evidence of conspiracy.
Lol there’s no conspiracy here. Hur basically said Biden is not mentally stable. Biden and Garland deny that. Release the tapes to prove who’s right or wrong. Pretty simple really.
Moreover, this is self defeating logic. If the DOJ was willing to put out doctored transcripts then there is no reason to believe they would not do the same with regards to the tapes. This is the problem with going down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole, there is no bottom to it.
Remember what happened to Nixon?
I think the June 27th debate will tell us who is the most mentally competent.
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@ILikePie5
So you’re admitting the Dems are breaking the rule of law and there shouldn’t be consequences for it.
No, I’m pointing out the absurdity of your logic.
Well I think the people ought to know if the President is mentally competent.
They’ve been watching him for 8 years, they’ve seen him give speeches, they’ve seen him debate, and they’ll see it all again. This tape will change nothing. It’s a pathetic excuse to carry on with the witch hunt they love to pretend the democrats are the ones engaging in.
And the method to know that is via their representatives in Congress who issued a lawful subpoena that Garland is ignoring.
So all of a sudden subpoenas must be followed… is that right?
A 110 year old could have said what’s on a transcript, but are they competent to be the President? I don’t think so.
The DOJ has no interest nor obligation to play your silly political games.
Hur basically said Biden is not mentally stable. Biden and Garland deny that. Release the tapes to prove who’s right or wrong.
The DOJ has no interest nor obligation to play your silly political games.
Lol there’s no conspiracy here
It’s nothing but. You were concerned about Biden’s mental competency so you demanded the transcripts. You got them. It doesn’t show, so now you want the tapes. When you get the tapes and it doesn’t show, you’ll claim it was doctored or that Biden is on drugs. There is no bottom to this hole.
Conspiracy 101 - demand evidence, then when you get it, use it as a predicate to demand more evidence. Repeat the cycle until further evidence is denied, then claim the denial of evidence is reason to suspect foul play, which itself becomes evidence.
The DOJ has no interest nor obligation to play your silly political games.
Remember what happened to Nixon?
Yes, he was forced out of the White House because of his unacceptable conduct. What’s your point?